yeah cause franson fits this bill

lets get more specific and stop being assumptive

third time going to arbitration with the leafs, held out twice benched a ton in his first couple years, and now they tried to trade him to their oldest rival

you honestly think this relationship hasnt been fried?
- Dozzer

i think that Michael Corleone said it best: it's strictly business. they see him an as asset, and they're going to get maximum value out of that asset. maybe you're right and Franson will ask for a trade. but my point was from the organization's POV. i don't think anything that's happened screams "we just want to get rid of this guy", because that option was available to them.

do you know what it takes for a player to earn $1 million in local endorsements?
- DoubleDown

Quite a lot of work for hockey players. Endorsements are not like those in the NBA or EPL/La Liga/Etc. I think Crosby was listed at $4 mill in endorsements and he's the sports best player. Stamkos makes around $800k in endorsements. I'm guessing Bolland can only muster up $400k in the GTA. He's not even the leafs best player.

Plan A, B, or C?
- fifty__missions

For plan A....but that could quickly change.
LOL

bottom line:

the princess' are still there.

are they goona show the grit, skill, determination on how to play at an NHL level and win?

thats what i thought...RNH is tougher.
- big_dion

Now now, let's not get all crazy.

I could knock RNH off the puck, Henrik I'm not so sure.

bottom line:

the princess' are still there.

are they goona show the grit, skill, determination on how to play at an NHL level and win?

thats what i thought...RNH is tougher.
- big_dion

eesh. that's low.

Quite a lot of work for hockey players. Endorsements are not like those in the NBA or EPL/La Liga/Etc. I think Crosby was listed at $4 mill in endorsements and he's the sports best player. Stamkos makes around $800k in endorsements. I'm guessing Bolland can only muster up $400k in the GTA. He's not even the leafs best player.
- jps7878

thing is...endorsements for TEAM sports are WAY less.

a boxer, golf player, tennis player...those are 1 person sports, no team.

they get huge bucks in endorsements...huge.

bottom line:

the princess' are still there.

are they goona show the grit, skill, determination on how to play at an NHL level and win?

thats what i thought...RNH is tougher.
- big_dion

so much hate for great players. Not the most exciting players in the league for sure, but they've proven to be valuable team players, they've needed some help offensively which hasn't been provided for the past few years.

Now now, let's not get all crazy.

I could knock RNH off the puck, Henrik I'm not so sure.
- moondawg

just trying to get the excitement flowing

Just my opinion, but in my mind they've earned the right to retire as Canucks, they're still productive players, as well they're the franchises #1 & #2 all-time leading scorers.

Re-tool on the fly it would seem.

If the Leafs managed their strength on the wing to somehow land a young #1 center they'll be in a good position going forward.
- LeftCoaster

Its been 10 years in the making.....


And we have BOZAK!!!!

Yes.

Problem solved.

Dion, number 1 D.
Problem solved.


nuts.

eesh. that's low.
- DoubleDown

haha DD i thought you may like that actually.

bottom line:

the princess' are still there.

are they goona show the grit, skill, determination on how to play at an NHL level and win?

thats what i thought...RNH is tougher.
- big_dion

They are still good hockey players, should be able to hit at least the 70 point mark. It all depends how far the Canucks go with playing the youth.

so much hate for great players. Not the most exciting players in the league for sure, but they've proven to be valuable team players, they've needed some help offensively which hasn't been provided for the past few years.
- LeftCoaster

they are both good players, excellent regular season players.

IMO they have a drop off when playoffs come.

Quite a lot of work for hockey players. Endorsements are not like those in the NBA or EPL/La Liga/Etc. I think Crosby was listed at $4 mill in endorsements and he's the sports best player. Stamkos makes around $800k in endorsements. I'm guessing Bolland can only muster up $400k in the GTA. He's not even the leafs best player.
- jps7878

yeah and you're talking about guys who work with national brands. local endorsements? you're not looking at all that much unless you're Phil Kessel or Dion Phaneuf.

They are still good hockey players, should be able to hit at least the 70 point mark. It all depends how far the Canucks go with playing the youth.
- LeafMan

70 pt, yep, but they were at one point 100 point players...thats 50-70 points between 2 guys.

thats a lot.

esp when no luongo

they already tried to trade him

and he knows it

gorges turned it down

no way he's a leaf come fall.. and i love that fact
- Dozzer

You're so mean....Mr Grinch

thing is...endorsements for TEAM sports are WAY less.

a boxer, golf player, tennis player...those are 1 person sports, no team.

they get huge bucks in endorsements...huge.
- big_dion

All the big names in all the big sports, get big deals.. Sid, OV, Teows... etc all have big endorsement deals.

so much hate for great players. Not the most exciting players in the league for sure, but they've proven to be valuable team players, they've needed some help offensively which hasn't been provided for the past few years.
- LeftCoaster

Santorelli wasn't the offensive catalyst the Sedins had hoped for?

just trying to get the excitement flowing
- big_dion

That did it.

thing is...endorsements for TEAM sports are WAY less.

a boxer, golf player, tennis player...those are 1 person sports, no team.

they get huge bucks in endorsements...huge.
- big_dion

I agree
But so do the big stars of team sports.

70 pt, yep, but they were at one point 100 point players...thats 50-70 points between 2 guys.

thats a lot.

esp when no luongo
- big_dion

Supporting cast is weakened unless the youth really surprise.

thing is...endorsements for TEAM sports are WAY less.

a boxer, golf player, tennis player...those are 1 person sports, no team.

they get huge bucks in endorsements...huge.
- big_dion

yeah apples and oranges. they don't just get endorsement deals, they get sponsorship. wonder how much Nike pays Roger Federer to wear their gear..

they are both good players, excellent regular season players.

IMO they have a drop off when playoffs come.
- big_dion

Because...the other team just has to focus on them and they're done, there is no offense beyond them.

All the big names in all the big sports, get big deals.. Sid, OV, Teows... etc all have big endorsement deals.
- bixll

those guys make peanuts compared to tennis/golf stars.

Santorelli wasn't the offensive catalyst the Sedins had hoped for?
- Woderwick

touche

Supporting cast is weakened unless the youth really surprise.
- LeafMan

agreed 100%