There is a discount and then a market Leaf discount which salary demands are higher than anywhere else..
- LeafMan

Thing is the reason we didn't get him was that Florida's offer was 800k better BECAUSE OF THE TAXES. Meaning we offer more than 5M per season. Man did we even dodge a bullet. Over 10M for Bolland and Clarkson to fill out the 3rd line is just scary.

How much does the guy in 36th and 39th get paid.

I just checked...Franson was 42nd in D scoring.
41st - Jack Johnson - $5M
43rd - Andy Greene - $3M

As simple and wrong as looking at it this way is, you may well be right on.

- Woderwick

Petry just signed for $3mil. He putsup like 1/2 the pts Franson does. The Leafs don't have much leverage at all on their 2 arb cases.

Pretty convoluted system, neither of us is right as it's completely different depending on your home state.

http://www.forbes.com/sit...lexities-of-u-s-tax-code/

https://ca.finance.yahoo....league-tax-071447565.html
- LeftCoaster

This is old, but interesting. From your fan forum a while back.
http://forum.canucks.com/...r-taxes-in-all-30-cities/

Montreal and Toronto dead last. No one wants to play here.

Petry just signed for $3mil. He putsup like 1/2 the pts Franson does. The Leafs don't have much leverage at all on their 2 arb cases.
- burn

We had the same with Briere
- Pea-Brain

I heard he was misused in the playoffs...

Nope, he isn't. But I don't blame him for taking it one bit.
- prock

nor do I....but when stuff like that comes out "$800K was the difference" and he said he's take a discount to stay, then he's full of poop.

As I said, I'm glad the Leafs didn;t pay it.

How much does the guy in 36th and 39th get paid.

I just checked...Franson was 42nd in D scoring.
41st - Jack Johnson - $5M
43rd - Andy Greene - $3M

As simple and wrong as looking at it this way is, you may well be right on.

- Woderwick

Tied for 38 but I see what you tried to do to devalue him

Tied for 38 but I see what you tried to do to devalue him
- MTL1

nor do I....but when stuff like that comes out "$800K was the difference" and he said he's take a discount to stay, then he's full of poop.

As I said, I'm glad the Leafs didn;t pay it.
- burn

Which is why I don't get all the anger. He went for a pay day. I don't blame him for that one bit. And it's better this way for the Leafs anyway, so c'est la vie.

How much does the guy in 36th and 39th get paid.

I just checked...Franson was 42nd in D scoring.
41st - Jack Johnson - $5M
43rd - Andy Greene - $3M

As simple and wrong as looking at it this way is, you may well be right on.

- Woderwick

if he could learn to play defense he might be useful

Why doesn't the NHL take taxes into account when calculating a team's salary cap since the teams have no control over the taxes where they reside? Otherwise it gives teams in taxless or low tax areas unfair advantages when attracting free agents and negotiating with players.
- Wendel_Rocked

Yes Florida has no state income tax, but you still have to pay FEDERAL income tax. When you salary is as high as an NHL player, you end up paying 40% in taxes when all is said and down, and then you need to think about the fact that you don't get free healthcare with that ....

Ive actually looked into this a fair bit, and in terms of taxes, its better to be in Canada.

Here is a US tax Calculator for the keeners:
http://www.calculator.net...at1=no&printit=0&x=87&y=9

- Woderwick

The leafs could get Faulk'ed with franson
He signed for 4.8

The leafs could get Faulk'ed with franson
He signed for 4.8
- MTL1

nonis needs to stop being such a pansy and start pulling the trigger

(frank) he doesnt have to win every deal by a landslide

nonis needs to stop being such a pansy and start pulling the trigger

(frank) he doesnt have to win every deal by a landslide
- Dozzer

He is a bit gun shy eh

nonis needs to stop being such a pansy and start pulling the trigger

(frank) he doesnt have to win every deal by a landslide
- Dozzer

This, can't take a chance on being stuck with Franson after arbitration.
a second rounder would be ideal.

Good glad he didnt sign here at those numbers, same with Brian Boyle..had enough of these 20 - 35 point guys acting like they the cats meow
- PinkSock

That's because these quality 20-35 points are what get you into the playoffs and then success in the playoffs

nonis needs to stop being such a pansy and start pulling the trigger

(frank) he doesnt have to win every deal by a landslide
- Dozzer

No sense doing a trade just because. You'd complain if he did

Tampa and Florida are the KHL of the NHL.
No taxes. Will learn how to leverage that in all negotiations going forward.
If one of them ever becomes a winning team, then say goodbye to all top tier free agents.
- ILoveLamp

Tennessee doesn't have state income tax either. I wonder why it never gets discussed when referring to them. Nashville is a great city too, so much fun to be had. Do players really think the Panthers have a better org than the Preds? It baffles me.

Petry just signed for $3mil. He putsup like 1/2 the pts Franson does. The Leafs don't have much leverage at all on their 2 arb cases.
- burn

I think they'll get screwed with franson's but reimer's we'll be fine on

He is a bit gun shy eh
- MTL1

he tends to over value his players as well

nonis needs to stop being such a pansy and start pulling the trigger

(frank) he doesnt have to win every deal by a landslide
- Dozzer

Thus the nickename "Nonuts".

This, can't take a chance on being stuck with Franson after arbitration.
a second rounder would be ideal.
- LeafMan

if franson doesnt get more than 3.5.. the leafs are stuck with him AND cant trade him

just move him for something.. he cost lebda ffs

No sense doing a trade just because. You'd complain if he did
- Fakepartofme

oh mr postivity is here

you think i would care if franson was moved?

shoot me some pizza bread and we'll call it even

franson is terrible

This, can't take a chance on being stuck with Franson after arbitration.
a second rounder would be ideal.
- LeafMan

And every gym knows this, hence why they won't be coughing up a 2nd for him

Nonis offered Boyle 4 years 10 M... If Sabers don't sign Ott looks like he will be a Leaf for 3-4 years. At around 2.75-3.25 M a season