i'm leaving it at this

the leafs do not win a damned thing with this core, coach or GM

they'll scrape into the playoffs and everyone will go ape poop and think its awesome.. but the leafs are, at the very best, a middle of the road team
- Dozzer

I think we all know there is a long way to go.

Exactly he gets the blame but it was most likely the scouts more then him.
- Yeti1181

He's the boss. He has final say. If some twit came to me and said they wanted to pick a projected late round draft choice in the 1st round I would tell him to (frank) himself.

Forrest Gump got Jenny.
- RogerRoeper

then she gave up.

Forrest Gump got Jenny.
- RogerRoeper

a washed up hippy hooker that was pillaged by black panther enthusiasts, you must be proud.

this.

didnt they have mike richards on their 4th line in the playoffs?
thats what makes them different from a lot of other teams.
- Jurco_28

I don't know how this has become a fact. It's not a fact - it's a factoid.

He was 8th in ESTOI/G in the playoffs.

5th in SHTOI/G (that really surprised me - I would have thought he'd be 1-2)

5th in PPTOI/G

Put it all together and he was 7th in TOI/G for LA forwards.

That doesn't smell like 4th line to me.

a washed up hippy hooker that was pillaged by black panther enthusiasts, you must be proud.
- big_dion

Rain Man didn't get laid.

Silly hyperbole. He centered one of the best lines in hockey. Kessel and JVR missed him when he was injured.
- RogerRoeper

2 seconds after Bozak is moved he becomes the worthless player you always thought he was the new grabovski

thats how you operate

I think we all know there is a long way to go.
- LeafMan

problem is some of the main issues are signed long term

i will hope.. but i just dont expect much

2 seconds after Bozak is moved he becomes the worthless player you always thought he was the new grabovski

thats how you operate
- senstroll

stupid is a stupid does

But wasn't he shipped out in a trade that brought Ehrhoff? CE was pretty important in that cup run of 2011, no?
- TheThrill

Yup but it was not the piece that made the trade happen. It was a salary dump by SJ and Gillis was in the right place at the right time.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...Dealt-to-Canucks/59/22705

problem is some of the main issues are signed long term

i will hope.. but i just dont expect much
- Dozzer

1 thing thats a nice improvement we have to look forward to...

bernier.

finally a legit goalie.

their captain?

i'd like proof of that please.
- Dozzer

what does that have to do with anything?? He was sucking ass early on and almost traded him.

He's the boss. He has final say. If some twit came to me and said they wanted to pick a projected late round draft choice in the 1st round I would tell him to (frank) himself.
- bloatedmosquito

But when I brought up Nylander people came back and said it was the scout that did it.

stupid is a stupid does
- big_dion

You're not going to bring up the chocolate line to, are you?

what does that have to do with anything?? He was sucking ass early on and almost traded him.
- burn

burn, i am not taking your word for it

what does that have to do with anything?? He was sucking ass early on and almost traded him.
- burn

Also the year before that and the year before that as well.

that's funny. Sure playing with kessel heap his stats. But does he score goals? Yes. Reliable defensively? Yes. He fits well there and I am tired of hearing bozak is no good. The stats show he is a good center. Kadri played with Kessel for sometime this year and how did he do? Not even close to how well bozak played there.
- JVR_42_PK81

overpaid not good defensively and terrible away from Kessel

1 thing thats a nice improvement we have to look forward to...

bernier.

finally a legit goalie.
- big_dion

so long as he doesnt burn out in RCs dumbass system

your argument has one MASSIVE flaw

you assume that the only things that matter to a hockey team is what happens on the ice.
- Dozzer

No I don't.

what does that have to do with anything?? He was sucking ass early on and almost traded him.
- burn

in burns defense i did hear that brown was slagging hard and there was some reports they were not pleased with his output, as for trading i dont know, but i did hear some crap about LA not exacly overly impressed in the big picture.

2 cups in 3 years ...well, you dont have to put up the big points to get the job done..not when you have the team he has.

so long as he doesnt burn out in RCs dumbass system
- Dozzer

it really is a horrible system

well
system we call it

its more of just a joke than anything!

You're not going to bring up the chocolate line to, are you?
- LeafMan

poop Happens.

Also the year before that and the year before that as well.
- Yeti1181

yeah hes not exaclty the best point producer, i never pick him in my hockey pools.

it really is a horrible system

well
system we call it

its more of just a joke than anything!
- big_dion

Really hoping he has the the brains to change things.

I think we all know there is a long way to go.
- LeafMan

Exactly......anyone say they were done building?