my issue with nonis...




- big_dion

Losing Grabs+Kulemin are negatives?

Lombardi waited 7 years, Tallon and Bowman waited 9 years until they pulled the trigger.
- LeafMan

the leafs have seen the playoffs once in 11 years

listen

i dont think the leafs ever get much better with phaneuf as captain and nonis as GM

shanny will see this eventually i hope
- Dozzer

It's Shanny I'm more worried about. Giving Carlyle an extension? Begging Gorges and Bolland to play on the Leafs?

Lombardi waited 7 years, Tallon and Bowman waited 9 years until they pulled the trigger.
- LeafMan

Pointed this out earlier. Risk only works at the right time and you need to have the depth to absorb the loss if it doesn't work out.

the leafs have seen the playoffs once in 11 years
- Dozzer

half season

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same with Pk's norris

the leafs have seen the playoffs once in 11 years
- Dozzer

sorry 9 years i was counting 04

So is/was Gleason.
- burn

gleason is tough, he can shot block and fight if need be. he is slow though and not the best all round D man...he doenst lay a lot of big hard hits, because his speed...thats why we bought him out and got Polak, he is basically Gleason but better...and cheaper, and younger.

gunnerson has a gibbled hip

polak is a warrior.
- big_dion

That's fine.. But how's his hockey?

But the risk has to be at the right time. Lombardi with the kings was slow and patient and made a bi move at the right time.

Making a big risking move at the wrong time could be catastrophic.
- burn

I believe it's called LGBT now

So is/was Gleason.
- burn

Yes, but Polak can skate

thats not the damned point

nonis is not a risk taker

he is slow and patient

winners take risk

its pretty damn simple
- Dozzer

so essentially, you're advocating to trade someone like Kessel/Rielly/JVR/Bernier etc? because otherwise, what kind of risk do you mean?

the leafs have seen the playoffs once in 11 years
- Dozzer

Those teams had long playoff droughts as well, you build depth first through drafts then make risky moves when on the cusp.

the leafs have seen the playoffs once in 11 years
- Dozzer

Yeah but if we take risks now and lose out on them we will just miss them more. Nonis took a risk in drafting Nylander this year and hopefully it pans out.

listen

i dont think the leafs ever get much better with phaneuf as captain and nonis as GM

shanny will see this eventually i hope
- Dozzer

Babcock and Yzerman will be here soon - well Stevie Y in 4 years. Unless he gets fired.

Yeah but if we take risks now and lose out on them we will just miss them more. Nonis took a risk in drafting Nylander this year and hopefully it pans out.
- Yeti1181

Nylander was all Bergman's doing.

Babcock and Yzerman will be here soon - well Stevie Y in 4 years. Unless he gets fired.
- Woderwick

I think Babcock is coming. Still no extension in Detroit.

thats not the damned point

nonis is not a risk taker

he is slow and patient

winners take risk

its pretty damn simple
- Dozzer

I'm always led back to think of Pauly Homer. Now THAT guy took risks.

Got rid of two core pieces one after another. Got back a few great young pieces to become the new core. That's balls.

Traded away their best goalie for a floundering goalie from another team, because he saddled the team with a 9 year mega contract on a headcase. Risky trade, but Mason is decent....

Except that the guys they traded have 2 cups now, and the goalie has a Vezina.


Taking risks doesn't always work out

That's fine.. But how's his hockey?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

He can hockey.

Oh and there's no taxes and there's a beach in Florida.
- RogerRoeper

Don't forget all of the Revenue sharing cash that the Leafs fans send to Florida every year. That way they can offer 4 tickets, plus hotdogs and soda for $99.00.

Losing Grabs+Kulemin are negatives?
- RogerRoeper

our best 2 way player
and our center than got us into the playoffs going vs all the top lines

yeah id say that hurts a bit...

buyout grabo 5.5
sign bolland giving up 2nd and two 4ths
losing kulemin because the buyout
bolland walks

now isles scoop em both, i hope strome plays with them in an offensive role.

I think Babcock is coming. Still no extension in Detroit.
- RogerRoeper

There's one in my pants now.

He can hockey.
- Woderwick

Is his hockey as good as Gunnar's hockey?

Nylander was all Bergman's doing.
- LeafMan

Yes but ultimately it falls on Nonis. If he is a bust are we going to curse Bergman no it will be Nonis fault.

I'm ashamed to say I delivered the T Star for years
- jimi james

I delivered the Globe and Mail.

Among my customers: Rick Vaive, Dan Hill's parents and Alex Tilley (the hat guy).

our best 2 way player
and our center than got us into the playoffs going vs all the top lines

yeah id say that hurts a bit...

buyout grabo 5.5
sign bolland giving up 2nd and two 4ths
losing kulemin because the buyout
bolland walks

now isles scoop em both, i hope strome plays with them in an offensive role.
- big_dion

I what world is Kulemin a two-way player? He hasn't hit double-digits in goals in 3 straight seasons. You do know two way means offense, right?

Let's be clear, Grabo was a 3rd line centre in 2013' when the Leafs made the playoffs. Every year he was the top centre, they were terrible. Bozak+Kadri were both bigger reasons at centre the Leafs made the playoffs.

So you want Bolland, Grabovski, Kulemin on this team? Do you know how (frank)ed we'd be for years with our cap?