He made 8th grade?
- jaymster790

2nd grade 4 times.

he's so (frank)ing dumb it's unbelievable.


such a cheerleader he makes EE look sane.
- dt99999

He's up there with Randy Teaman.

He's up there with Randy Teaman.
- mushalain1

only on 690 would we get a 20 minute segment with Price and Teeman discussing their golf game

Two elite players who are invaluable to their team's success were just extended long term. The habs want to do the same with Subban who is a notch below elite imo at this point in his career.
- Cyberhabs

I know Kane and Toews are great players. I would love them on my team.

My question is, are they that Elite? Kane is a point per game player (exactly point/game) and Toews is not quite that.

Leadership, hockey sense, and all that good crap counts for something, but surely they are not "Crosby" elite?

Are those guys the same if they play apart from each other? Or they able to turn an average player like Kunitz into a Team Canada first line winger?

it's my question numbnuts. they're the ones who would reply.
- DoubleDown

I meant the boys here, will be waiting for you to return with the Leafs reply. Thanks for the added name..

so The great one would make slightly more than Phaneuf?
- hamiltonhabfan

It's (frank)ing Phaneuf!!!!

Of course money was distributed differently back then. Less teams making the talent less distributed? More people today make the minimum then back then? (if there was a minimum lol)

I meant the boys here, will be waiting for you to return with the Leafs reply. Thanks for the added name..
- bixll

ah. ok then it was kinda funny. and i take back the numbnuts.

I know Kane and Toews are great players. I would love them on my team.

My question is, are they that Elite? Kane is a point per game player (exactly point/game) and Toews is not quite that.

Leadership, hockey sense, and all that good crap counts for something, but surely they are not "Crosby" elite?

Are those guys the same if they play apart from each other? Or they able to turn an average player like Kunitz into a Team Canada first line winger?
- l3ig_l2ecl

I would say toews is Crosby elite with all his intangibles and skills. I would also say Subban is elite as well.

I know Kane and Toews are great players. I would love them on my team.

My question is, are they that Elite? Kane is a point per game player (exactly point/game) and Toews is not quite that.

Leadership, hockey sense, and all that good crap counts for something, but surely they are not "Crosby" elite?

Are those guys the same if they play apart from each other? Or they able to turn an average player like Kunitz into a Team Canada first line winger?
- l3ig_l2ecl

actually Toews turned Kunitz into a bench player....

I know Kane and Toews are great players. I would love them on my team.

My question is, are they that Elite? Kane is a point per game player (exactly point/game) and Toews is not quite that.

Leadership, hockey sense, and all that good crap counts for something, but surely they are not "Crosby" elite?

Are those guys the same if they play apart from each other? Or they able to turn an average player like Kunitz into a Team Canada first line winger?
- l3ig_l2ecl

Mr. Babcock, who do you think was your best player in these 2010 Olympics?

His answer: Whoever was playing with Jonathan Toews.

I know Kane and Toews are great players. I would love them on my team.

My question is, are they that Elite? Kane is a point per game player (exactly point/game) and Toews is not quite that.

Leadership, hockey sense, and all that good crap counts for something, but surely they are not "Crosby" elite?

Are those guys the same if they play apart from each other? Or they able to turn an average player like Kunitz into a Team Canada first line winger?
- l3ig_l2ecl

I definitely think Toews is worth more than Kane.

I know Kane and Toews are great players. I would love them on my team.

My question is, are they that Elite? Kane is a point per game player (exactly point/game) and Toews is not quite that.

Leadership, hockey sense, and all that good crap counts for something, but surely they are not "Crosby" elite?

Are those guys the same if they play apart from each other? Or they able to turn an average player like Kunitz into a Team Canada first line winger?
- l3ig_l2ecl

i think the Crosby/Toews debate is stupid and Crosby is hands down the best player in the world. but are they both elite? yes. Toews is probably the best 2-way forward in the game. Kane is PPG. do you know how many players in the NHL were PPG players last year? very few. and he comes through in the playoffs as well. he doesn't disappear.

ah. ok then it was kinda funny. and i take back the numbnuts.
- DoubleDown

Again, at my age, it is the most accurate name I have been called in a while..

i think the Crosby/Toews debate is stupid and Crosby is hands down the best player in the world. but are they both elite? yes. Toews is probably the best 2-way forward in the game. Kane is PPG. do you know how many players in the NHL were PPG players last year? very few. and he comes through in the playoffs as well. he doesn't disappear.
- DoubleDown

Skill wise Crosby yes but as we know that's not all that counts and Crosby has been disappearing in playoffs of late.

i think the Crosby/Toews debate is stupid and Crosby is hands down the best player in the world. but are they both elite? yes. Toews is probably the best 2-way forward in the game. Kane is PPG. do you know how many players in the NHL were PPG players last year? very few. and he comes through in the playoffs as well. he doesn't disappear.
- DoubleDown

I like this answer, so then with today's capspace, Toews deserves his contract. Does Kane?

I would say toews is Crosby elite with all his intangibles and skills. I would also say Subban is elite as well.
- Yeti1181

I think PK has one more rung on the ladder to become elite. I would say he is just below d-men like Doughty, Weber and Suter. I do think he will get there though.

Skill wise Crosby yes but as we know that's not all that counts and Crosby has been disappearing in playoffs of late.
- Yeti1181

Did you see the Pens latest blog ?

Did you see the Pens latest blog ?
- bixll

I avoid that place. What was it?

I avoid that place. What was it?
- Yeti1181

Sid is off for surgery, he had in injury he played through, this yr

Skill wise Crosby yes but as we know that's not all that counts and Crosby has been disappearing in playoffs of late.
- Yeti1181

all i know is, if i'm building a team, i take Crosby ahead of anyone.

I think PK has one more rung on the ladder to become elite. I would say he is just below d-men like Doughty, Weber and Suter. I do think he will get there though.
- Cyberhabs

I would take Subban over Suter any day.

I think PK has one more rung on the ladder to become elite. I would say he is just below d-men like Doughty, Weber and Suter. I do think he will get there though.
- Cyberhabs

I can agree with that but this contract will reflect his potential. Having said that I think he's getting a shade over 9 mil for 8 years if he doesn't go to arbitration.

Sid is off for surgery, he had in injury he played through, this yr
- bixll

Like every other NHLer

I like this answer, so then with today's capspace, Toews deserves his contract. Does Kane?
- l3ig_l2ecl

maybe not. but look at Minny. Suter and Parise. Suter is the better player. sometimes you see these dual signings even when one player is better.

all i know is, if i'm building a team, i take Crosby ahead of anyone.
- DoubleDown

Fair enough. I want to win when it counts I take Toews.