So you are saying a longer contract is out of the question for Eller??

Isn't it playing with fire giving him a 2 years deal?? Wouldn't he hit free agency after that contract??
- soad_live

It's not like he can't be replaced with his current play.

It's not like he can't be replaced with his current play.
- l3ig_l2ecl

I think his play in the past playoffs would have been difficult to replace.

In 5 years the nhlpa/nhl contract will be over and the salary cap will take a big cut. I don't think its Wise for Subban to do this.
- soad_live

if PK is anything it must be wise

In 5 years the nhlpa/nhl contract will be over and the salary cap will take a big cut. I don't think its Wise for Subban to do this.
- soad_live

already talking about a lockout

if Subban wants to play in Montreal long term then getting him signed shouldn't be that tough. even if the club has to shell out $1-$1.5 million more AAV than they'd like. that money is not worth losing him over. i understand that he's got them bent over the barrel right now but there are many players who were in the same position as PK currently is who sucked it up and didn't hold out for that ridiculous mega contract and instead signed a contract that was digestible for the team and left them with a manageable cap situation. the question is, does PK think the same way? or is his primary focus to suck as much money and cap space from this team as he can?

I hear what you're saying, but they aren't comparables. For one, Boyle's a UFA. Second, their skillsets aren't compatible at all.

Eller is likely to have to bite it on a one-year deal, two years max. He's probably looking at $2.25M per, 2.75 max. Arbitration wouldn't be friendly to him in terms of what he wants with Montreal. He wants a bigger role, and he knows Plekanec is expendable if he gets it. It could go to arbitration, but I don't think it will.
- EricEngels

i don't think Plekanec and Eller are good comparables. Plekanec is a smart defensive player with really good vision as a centreman who plays soft. Eller plays a more physical game and he's got good hands but he's dumb as a post and his awareness, after 4 years, just isn't where it should be. i'm not even sure what to make of Eller any more.

if Subban wants to play in Montreal long term then getting him signed shouldn't be that tough. even if the club has to shell out $1-$1.5 million more AAV than they'd like. that money is not worth losing him over. i understand that he's got them bent over the barrel right now but there are many players who were in the same position as PK currently is who sucked it up and didn't hold out for that ridiculous mega contract and instead signed a contract that was digestible for the team and left them with a manageable cap situation. the question is, does PK think the same way? or is his primary focus to suck as much money and cap space from this team as he can?
- DoubleDown

I think PK has put up with enough crap to want to suck out the max the Habs can give him.

Any candidate names for gallants spot surfacing?

i don't think Plekanec and Eller are good comparables. Plekanec is a smart defensive player with really good vision as a centreman who plays soft. Eller plays a more physical game and he's got good hands but he's dumb as a post and his awareness, after 4 years, just isn't where it should be. i'm not even sure what to make of Eller any more.
- DoubleDown

An inconsistent 3rd line center.

I think PK has put up with enough crap to want to suck out the max the Habs can give him.
- habfanforever

what crap does he have to put up with? what great injustice has befallen him in Montreal?

if Subban wants to play in Montreal long term then getting him signed shouldn't be that tough. even if the club has to shell out $1-$1.5 million more AAV than they'd like. that money is not worth losing him over. i understand that he's got them bent over the barrel right now but there are many players who were in the same position as PK currently is who sucked it up and didn't hold out for that ridiculous mega contract and instead signed a contract that was digestible for the team and left them with a manageable cap situation. the question is, does PK think the same way? or is his primary focus to suck as much money and cap space from this team as he can?
- DoubleDown

The unfortunate truth is even though it's his decision, when you've got a 63yo Don Meehan telling you that he can get as much as X amount and the team will figure out what to do with the cap, it's hard for him to actually make the decision in favor of the team.

If Don Meehan was able to get Phaneuf 7million, I'm affraid of what PK will get....

Any candidate names for gallants spot surfacing?
- MTL1

would be kinda funny if they brought in Dan Bylsma

would be kinda funny if they brought in Dan Bylsma
- DoubleDown

Or the return of cunneyworth

The unfortunate truth is even though it's his decision, when you've got a 63yo Don Meehan telling you that he can get as much as X amount and the team will figure out what to do with the cap, it's hard for him to actually make the decision in favor of the team.

If Don Meehan was able to get Phaneuf 7million, I'm affraid of what PK will get....
- l3ig_l2ecl

well i would hope Marc Bergevin is a better negotiator than Dave Nonis. but i would tend to lean towards that way too. i don't think PK will do the team any favours.

well i would hope Marc Bergevin is a better negotiator than Dave Nonis. but i would tend to lean towards that way too. i don't think PK will do the team any favours.
- DoubleDown

But why would he? The team didn't give him any 2 years ago.

what crap does he have to put up with? what great injustice has befallen him in Montreal?
- DoubleDown

He swallowed his pill and took the bridge deal. I know he can be a wild horse at times but Therrien seems to want to go out of his way to reign him in. The benchings and the team Canada healthy scratch treatment with no backing from the Habs. All that in spite of his Norris trophy and consistent 100% effort night in and night out. If I'm PK, I go for the max.

i don't think Plekanec and Eller are good comparables. Plekanec is a smart defensive player with really good vision as a centreman who plays soft. Eller plays a more physical game and he's got good hands but he's dumb as a post and his awareness, after 4 years, just isn't where it should be. i'm not even sure what to make of Eller any more.
- DoubleDown

Also Plekanecs had the Privilege of playing with AK27 and AK46 during his sophomore year which kick-started his offensive career.

Not saying that Eller is a great offensive guy, but other than the EGG line, he's played with some real garbage since getting to Montreal.

Any candidate names for gallants spot surfacing?
- MTL1

not really...Bergevin said he'll look within the organization first, and the names going around are Martin Lapointe and Donald Audette, but really nothing official.

I don't know about Lapointe, but Audette has little coaching experience, midget AAA and the Quebec U17 and team Canada U18 teams

I really doubt any of these guys will get the job...they'll hire someone from outside the team. Bergevin also made it clear he wanted Sylvain Lefebvre to continue his work with the Bulldogs, so he's not an option.

well i would hope Marc Bergevin is a better negotiator than Dave Nonis. but i would tend to lean towards that way too. i don't think PK will do the team any favours.
- DoubleDown

He is, which is why the contract still hasn't been signed yet.

not really...Bergevin said he'll look within the organization first, and the names going around are Martin Lapointe and Donald Audette, but really nothing official.

I don't know about Lapointe, but Audette has little coaching experience, midget AAA and the Quebec U17 and team Canada U18 teams

I really doubt any of these guys will get the job...they'll hire someone from outside the team. Bergevin also made it clear he wanted Sylvain Lefebvre to continue his work with the Bulldogs, so he's not an option.
- stinger67

Carbonneau is ideal for an assistant role.

An inconsistent 3rd line center.
- habfanforever

Indeed and nothing more. The fact Bergevin was among the finalists for the Vrbata signing makes me think Eller will be soon packaged for offensive help.

not really...Bergevin said he'll look within the organization first, and the names going around are Martin Lapointe and Donald Audette, but really nothing official.

I don't know about Lapointe, but Audette has little coaching experience, midget AAA and the Quebec U17 and team Canada U18 teams

I really doubt any of these guys will get the job...they'll hire someone from outside the team. Bergevin also made it clear he wanted Sylvain Lefebvre to continue his work with the Bulldogs, so he's not an option.
- stinger67

Who's the two guys he brought in for the development camp? Would they be a consideration?

OMG TRADE DESHARNAIS!!!

But why would he? The team didn't give him any 2 years ago.
- EssuieToutJeune

only reason would be to allow for the best supporting cast possible, not to do any favours specifically for the team. that's why players do it. it's not about cutting the team a $ break, because the team will spend that money anyway. but i agree, i don't think he'll do that.

and i really don't think the team did anything wrong by offering him a bridge deal.

OMG TRADE DESHARNAIS!!!
- EssuieToutJeune