Are you suggesting PK is better than EK65 defensively? They're equal....
- rangerdanger94

They had a Quiz with that exact question on TSN one night actually. All 3 chose PK as the better defensive player.

Hearing Pavlec has requested a trade out of Winnipeg? Any word?

Hearing Pavlec has requested a trade out of Winnipeg? Any word?
- Grinder6

So that makes everyone then...

hey man im not bias to montreal just idiots who think they no everything and are plain ignorant and no nothing
- Daddichronic

I wish I knew what you were talking about. KNOWing would be a good thing.

They had a Quiz with that exact question on TSN one night actually. All 3 chose PK as the better defensive player.
- ehabs9

Why because he is bigger??Thats all he has on him tbh

Anyone want to guess what an arbritrator would actually give Subban?

The only comparable situation I can find is Shea Weber in 2011-2012 where he was awarded 7.5M for 1 year.

And would an arbitrator look at cap hits from similar players and award a similar number? Or would he actually look at real salary and what guys like Suter and Weber will be making next year and decide that if Suter is gonna make 12M next year then Subban should be making that also...

Lars Eller also filled for arbitration. Maybe it's because he really wants out of Montreal. Therrien pulled him off the kid line last year and he's still upset. Lol! Inventing a rumor was really easy.

P.K. And Eller are going to arbitration, big deal. It's their right to do so but I don't think their agents are worried about Therrien. They're concerned with $$$ and term.

Why didn't someone in the East offer sheet PK @ about $10M per? Especially teams in the same division like Detroit, Toronto where it would have forced Bergevin's hand and in matching the sheet caused him to probably have to trade away a good player.

Even a team like Washington would have been better to push for PK than sign a stiff like Orpik and then spend more on Niskinen.
- RickJ

you sound like steve simmonds

most teams in the east with 10m of cap space have more than one roster spot to fill

you sound like steve simmonds

most teams in the east with 10m of cap space have more than one roster spot to fill
- hamiltonhabfan

Also every team will have quality rfas at one point or another
For example if wsh offered 10m -mtl doesn't match
Mtl would pick up 4 1sts
This would mess with wsh cap space and when one of wsh rfas were up u can count on mtl putting in a bid further messing with wsh cap space if they matched

Circle of evil if a players team did not match

Yes Subban has his flaws however is a game changer. I would love to him in a Leafs uniform. I would love to see the Leafs sign him to a $10M per year offer sheet. That would put Montreal in a no choice situation and have to match tying their hands financially. If Leafs get him he is worth the $'s. Get realistic, look at the money that was handed out last week. On the open market someone would have signed PK to at least 7 years $60M!!!

Eklund: Does PK Subban Want to Stay in Montreal Under Michel Therrien? + MDZ
- Eklund

Very late with this, but your fixation on Therrien is borderline psychotic.

It's just a standard thing, where the player (steered by agent Don Meehan, who wasn't born yesterday) protects himself and thinks ahead.

Now they have up to August 20th to reach an agreement. I would be very surprised if it went that far.

As for the rest, good God, shut the (frank) up.

Very late with this, but your fixation on Therrien is borderline psychotic.

It's just a standard thing, where the player (steered by agent Don Meehan, who wasn't born yesterday) protects himself and thinks ahead.

Now they have up to August 20th to reach an agreement. I would be very surprised if it went that far.

As for the rest, good God, shut the (frank) up.
- stinger67

So... should we just have an article titled "Therrien is a complete douche, nobody should want to play with him!"

I could get on board with that

They had a Quiz with that exact question on TSN one night actually. All 3 chose PK as the better defensive player.
- ehabs9

which is scary

Yes Subban has his flaws however is a game changer. I would love to him in a Leafs uniform. I would love to see the Leafs sign him to a $10M per year offer sheet. That would put Montreal in a no choice situation and have to match tying their hands financially. If Leafs get him he is worth the $'s. Get realistic, look at the money that was handed out last week. On the open market someone would have signed PK to at least 7 years $60M!!!
- jtolton1

Call Nonuts and get it done!

I'd enjoy getting a last place team's first choice next year...and the year after....and the year after...and the year after...

I wish I knew what you were talking about. KNOWing would be a good thing.
- Kaden

It was a comment made by someone else we were discussing how he said Pk subban was an Olympic MVP and I said he was rarely used and as you pointed out was price but I also said Doughty was much more an MVP in the series. .keep up man all of this was discussed a few times

Pretty sure that if the Habs were ready to give PK 8x8, it would already been done.
- fidopro

According to hockey30.com: PK's agent started at 9.5 Bergy started with 8x8

Anyway I'm glad Bergy signed Patches to that long term 4.5 mil contract, that will help offset PK's.

ristolainen, zadarov, myers, pysyk, reinhart going forward. and probably another high one this year. wow.

your isles also boast a pretty impressive group on paper.

next step is the hard part . put it together on the ice. trust me, I know. im an oilers fan

- hugefemale dog77

We could use a top 4 defenseman added through trade before the season starts.

PK is surely not the best overall D but he is top 5 and pretty young.

Weber, Suter and Doughty are, IMO, the only D's better than PK.

If you look at there contracts, Weber and Suter sign for 13 and 14 years, under different convention. So uncomparable at this point.

Doughty is better than Pk and signed for 7 M$. But keep in mind it was 3 years ago and was 3 years younger, so less UFA years were bought.

I think a fair contract for PK, considering actual convention and number of UFA's years that will be included, would be around 8M$ for 7-8 years.

But my guess is it will be between 8,5 and 9M$.

PK is surely not the best overall D but he is top 5 and pretty young.

Weber, Suter and Doughty are, IMO, the only D's better than PK.

If you look at there contracts, Weber and Suter sign for 13 and 14 years, under different convention. So uncomparable at this point.

Doughty is better than Pk and signed for 7 M$. But keep in mind it was 3 years ago and was 3 years younger, so less UFA years were bought.

I think a fair contract for PK, considering actual convention and number of UFA's years that will be included, would be around 8M$ for 7-8 years.

But my guess is it will be between 8,5 and 9M$.
- soad_live

PK is surely not the best overall D but he is top 5 and pretty young.

Weber, Suter and Doughty are, IMO, the only D's better than PK.

If you look at there contracts, Weber and Suter sign for 13 and 14 years, under different convention. So uncomparable at this point.

Doughty is better than Pk and signed for 7 M$. But keep in mind it was 3 years ago and was 3 years younger, so less UFA years were bought.

I think a fair contract for PK, considering actual convention and number of UFA's years that will be included, would be around 8M$ for 7-8 years.

But my guess is it will be between 8,5 and 9M$.
- soad_live

PK doesn't have much leverage though. If MTL give him an offer of $7M AAV and tell him that's the highest they're going, then PK really has only 2 options: accept it or sit out and not play. If he sits out and MTL does well, then the offer only goes down the longer he holds out.

People are using UFA prices when giving valuations for Subban's expected contract. We need to remember that he's a RFA and therefore should get less than he would on the open market assuming no one offer sheets him.

PK doesn't have much leverage though. If MTL give him an offer of $7M AAV and tell him that's the highest they're going, then PK really has only 2 options: accept it or sit out and not play. If he sits out and MTL does well, then the offer only goes down the longer he holds out.

People are using UFA prices when giving valuations for Subban's expected contract. We need to remember that he's a RFA and therefore should get less than he would on the open market assuming no one offer sheets him.
- rangerdanger94

I don't agree with that.

If Montreal forces him to take 7M, it won't be for the 8 years. Arbitration would make it one year. So he would walk out a UFA and Montreal would probably need to go above 10mil to keep him.

PK has all the leverage. He dictates terms and money.

I don't agree with that.

If Montreal forces him to take 7M, it won't be for the 8 years. Arbitration would make it one year. So he would walk out a UFA and Montreal would probably need to go above 10mil to keep him.

PK has all the leverage. He dictates terms and money.
- l3ig_l2ecl

Agreed! PK has all the leverage. If it goes to arbitration he will get a min of $7.5 and then he will leave when UFA. They will have to trade him cause he will not stay and Habs will get hosed on the trade. PK will sign an $8.5/8 year deal.

Agreed! PK has all the leverage. If it goes to arbitration he will get a min of $7.5 and then he will leave when UFA. They will have to trade him cause he will not stay and Habs will get hosed on the trade. PK will sign an $8.5/8 year deal.
- Champ

I don't think the sitution is problematic at all.

If as stated, PK started at 9.5 and MB at 8, i don't see it being a problem.
Like i said, somewhere between 8.5 and 9 will be the money.

Lenght will be 8 years for sure.

I don't agree with that.

If Montreal forces him to take 7M, it won't be for the 8 years. Arbitration would make it one year. So he would walk out a UFA and Montreal would probably need to go above 10mil to keep him.

PK has all the leverage. He dictates terms and money.
- l3ig_l2ecl

I forgot that PK filed for arbitration. Regardless, isn't he still an RFA next summer if it comes down to the arbitration decision?

I agree withmost of the fans comments on here, PK Subban is being lowballed simply because of his race. However, after he and Markov, the Habs defense is filled with alot of Third paairing players..Losing Ryan McDonagh will hurt this team for Years.