Except Snow has the Islanders looking pretty good after taking over with them literally in the worst position of any team ever. Not including the Vanek trade, which depending on how good the Isles are this year, might not even be that bad, can you even name one bad move he's made? Probably not, because you probably don't pay attention at all
- isles10289

He does? They've accomplished jack-poop with him.

After being terrible year after year, I would hope he does have some nice prospects for his team being so bad. He deserves credit for this?

Vancouvers biggest mistake = Cam Neely to Boston. Great move for Cam though, and his hometown will always love him.

Except Snow has the Islanders looking pretty good after taking over with them literally in the worst position of any team ever. Not including the Vanek trade, which depending on how good the Isles are this year, might not even be that bad, can you even name one bad move he's made? Probably not, because you probably don't pay attention at all
- isles10289

Wtf, Garth Snow makes Mike Gillis look like a brilliant hockey mind.

Garth Snow is the worst GM in hockey. There is nobody even close to being as bad as he is.

This isn't David Bolland. This is Seguin. Only 21, with a 60+ point season under his belt. Many teams would have found room for him.
- RogerRoeper

So a team should trade one of their top 2 centers to move their 3rd center up the in roster, because he is younger? Keeping in mind the 3rd line center in question makes more money then either of their top 2 centermen?
Did I get that right?
Leaf logic at it's finest.

Bruins also got Morrow, Erikson, and Smith in that deal, Its not like we traded Tuukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft bud!

Since Snow just added Halak, Grabovski, Kulemin and made a bold move in trading back into the 1st round to draft Ho Sang, this knee-jerk Garth bashing is poorly timed.

great article.

I don't know what the Bruins were thinking honestly. It was an absolute coup having the opportunity to land Seguin in the first place, how they could turn around and give up on him so easily is confounding. It was a toss up in the 2010 draft as to who was going to go first overall, meaning, at spot number 2 you were basically drafting first overall. He contributed 7 points in 13 playoff games for the B's cup run in his rookie year, which isn't bad for a teenager who wasn't used to the grueling regular season, never mind adding 14 more games of playoff hockey. Year two he had 67 points in 81 games, leading the Bruins in scoring.

The lockout shortened season proved to be the turning point in Seguins tenure as a Bruin. He was criticized for being a bit of a mess, drinking and partying, not cleaning his apartment in Switzerland, and god knows what other "TYPICAL" thing a kid his age would do on a field trip to Europe with Mommy and Daddy's American Express platinum card. If that were me?? I'd be dead. The Bruins would have nothing left TO trade.

Seguin ripped it up in Switzerland, both on and off the ice. Not so much when he returned to Boston. A sub-par regular season, and a dismal playoff later, and Seguin was on his way out. Personally, I think management laid down the law with Seguin and he balked. Any kid that age will tell you that authority sucks. Any kid that age with bags of money NEED to be handled a certain way, delicately in my opinion, never to be blinded of the long-term implications at hand.

So here we are now. Seguin is a star in more ways than one ,the Bruins?They came up short last spring, and they lost their leading scorer for the second time in 3 years. All in all, they gave up on a platinum chip star for a sack of second and third rounders, and a sloppy second 1st rounder from Pittsburgh. Enjoy the downward slope you are about to suffer through. The only Bruin that's going to lift the cup for the next decade or so, are going to be former one's, like Tyler Seguin.
- jazzca1974

Can you expand on this?

Seguin is a centre, the way I look at it it didn't make sense to have three offensive minded centres and no wingers. Smith and Eriksson balance out the current roster while Morrow and Fraser are looking like very promising prospects who could be playing on the team as soon as next year. Maybe the Bs dont "win" this trade but they don't lose it either, they have a huge amount of depth from 1 player who probably wasn't going to be utilized in the best way possible anyways.

The only way I see the Bs losing this deal is if Seguin was obviously a better #1 centre than Krecji, but I saw no evidence of that. He's not going to take Bergeron's role as #2 either so he'd have to be slotted into the #3 or play wing, both are roles that he's not best suited for. I'd think the Bs would be happy to have winger depth with guys like Marchand and Lucic struggling at times.

It was a bad deal for the B's, because Seguin took his game to a new level this year.

first 30 goal year, first ppg season, and helped a non playoff team get over the hump.

Eriksson put up just .6ppg, which was the same as the year before. Doubtful he will be a 30 goal/70 pt guy again. Smith was a decent piece, and Morrow could develop into a top 4 one day. Still this doesnt equal 1 Seguin.

too be fair Seguin was pretty bad in the lockout year, and he is a 14 year old in a 22 year olds body

It was a bad deal for the B's, because Seguin took his game to a new level this year.

first 30 goal year, first ppg season, and helped a non playoff team get over the hump.

Eriksson put up just .6ppg, which was the same as the year before. Doubtful he will be a 30 goal/70 pt guy again. Smith was a decent piece, and Morrow could develop into a top 4 one day. Still this doesnt equal 1 Seguin.

too be fair Seguin was pretty bad in the lockout year, and he is a 14 year old in a 22 year olds body
- GardinerExpress

These debates are stupid. Was it the right thing at the time? The B's still made the finals, and I suppose not winning it is an argument against trading Seguin.

My point is, almost always, trading a young player for veteran returns eventually works out better for the team getting the younger player.

Was Dallas's trade that moved Jerome Iginla for Joe Niewendyk a bad trade even tho 5 year later JI was the better player? Absolutely not, and anyone that disputes that has no clue about what or where an NHL teams priorities should be.

These debates are stupid. Was it the right thing at the time? The B's still made the finals, and I suppose not winning it is an argument against trading Seguin.

My point is, almost always, trading a young player for veteran returns eventually works out better for the team getting the younger player.

Was Dallas's trade that moved Jerome Iginla for Joe Niewendyk a bad trade even tho 5 year later JI was the better player? Absolutely not, and anyone that disputes that has no clue about what or where an NHL teams priorities should be.
- Jeropotato

Well it took about 2 months before everyone realized that Seguin was better than the sum of all the parts.

also arguments like this are stupid? The guy just wrote a blog about it, if you don't wanna read the debate, then don't

Seguin is better than Krejci hands down. Seguin was 21 and Krejci 27. Seguin's. upside is Superstar and Krejci is a very good player (also as good as he will ever be).
- Champ

Seguin is not better than Krejci "hands down". Better scorer? Sure. Seguin was likely never going to play center if he stayed with the Bruins.

Krejci has more playoff points in one playoff run than seguin has had in his full 50 playoff games.

Seguin is not better than Krejci "hands down". Better scorer? Sure. Seguin was likely never going to play center if he stayed with the Bruins.

Krejci has more playoff points in one playoff run than seguin has had in his full 50 playoff games.
- Mahewman

I think Krejci VS Seguin in a vacuum its hard to say. But the point is Boston is/was already loaded with 2way talent. They need speed and goal scoring. As in top notch goal scoring ability. Krejci the last 2 seasons has 29 goals. Seguin has 53. If they moved Krejci and kept Seguin as their 1C i think they'd be a slightly more dynamic and explosive team. 2 great players, but IMO with Bergeron they already have their all-world 2way player. Should have built their other top line around a goal scoring offensive stud instead of another all-world 2way player. It is nitpicking, because their still a great team....but i think they lost the Seguin trade for sure. Gotta hold on to talent like that and find a way to make the player fit in your core.

Idk about the stars!! I need to take a dump and all the bikes are locked up I might crap In my drAws!
- Datbanquetbeer

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- Datbanquetbeer

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- Datbanquetbeer

Haha sweet relief!!!

Trading Joe allowed the Bruins to get Savard and Chara, which also allowed other free agents to see what the Bruins were trying to do. End result, a Cup.
Trading Seguin had to be done. 6 mil for 3rd line center. No team would pay that anyone could tell you this. Why did the B's give him the 6 mil contract in the first place you ask? Cuz the Oilers in their infinite wisdom gave Hall 6 mil for no real reason whatsoever.
Joe was useless in playoffs and hasn't won sqaut since he left the Bruins so don't start. Seguin had to be shipped out, too much cash for his role. No he isnt a better then Krecji nor Bergeron. Scoring sure, all around player, not on his best day.
- Thornton22

Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night

Except Snow has the Islanders looking pretty good after taking over with them literally in the worst position of any team ever. Not including the Vanek trade, which depending on how good the Isles are this year, might not even be that bad, can you even name one bad move he's made? Probably not, because you probably don't pay attention at all
- isles10289

that is all, I will waste my time saying in reply to you.

So a team should trade one of their top 2 centers to move their 3rd center up the in roster, because he is younger? Keeping in mind the 3rd line center in question makes more money then either of their top 2 centermen?
Did I get that right?
Leaf logic at it's finest.

Bruins also got Morrow, Erikson, and Smith in that deal, Its not like we traded Tuukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft bud!
- Thornton22

In all honesty, should of been your number 1 and moved everyone else down a spot. Just throwing that out there

So a team should trade one of their top 2 centers to move their 3rd center up the in roster, because he is younger? Keeping in mind the 3rd line center in question makes more money then either of their top 2 centermen?
Did I get that right?
Leaf logic at it's finest.

Bruins also got Morrow, Erikson, and Smith in that deal, Its not like we traded Tuukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft bud!
- Thornton22

Love the guy, but paying him 10% of the cap is also what's hurting this team.

edit: tough to continue having 3 scoring lines when your paying $27 mill to 4 players, ask the Rangers, all the depth disappears after one year.

Trading Joe allowed the Bruins to get Savard and Chara, which also allowed other free agents to see what the Bruins were trying to do. End result, a Cup.
Trading Seguin had to be done. 6 mil for 3rd line center. No team would pay that anyone could tell you this. Why did the B's give him the 6 mil contract in the first place you ask? Cuz the Oilers in their infinite wisdom gave Hall 6 mil for no real reason whatsoever.
Joe was useless in playoffs and hasn't won sqaut since he left the Bruins so don't start. Seguin had to be shipped out, too much cash for his role. No he isnt a better then Krecji nor Bergeron. Scoring sure, all around player, not on his best day.
- Thornton22

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I know it's easy, from an outsiders perspective, to look back and say you shoulda done this or you shoulda done that. Truth be told, decisions are always easier to make when you look back.

That said, trading Joe for what the Bruins got for him was stupid, end of story. From your perspective you can't say he's done squat in the playoffs, you don't know what he would have done for the Bruins had they been more patient with him.

As for Seguin, again, the Bruins got impatient with a really talented kid and pulled the trigger before they actually knew what they had. The Bruins won a Cup yes, but, they now look oldish and slow. Having some patience with a young kid in Seguin would have allowed their window to stay open longer in my opinion, which would then perhaps given them the option of trading Krejci (who's six yrs older) for help on the wing.

As I said, revisionary history, Bruins still have a very good team, but they've got some decisions to make.

Ty Anderson: A year ago yesterday: Boston's biggest mistake?
- tyanderson

nice blog

Im pretty sure Bostons biggest mistake was trading Kessel in the first place lol. Im just playing!

In fairness, if Seguin shows up in the 2013' playoffs, they probably have a second cup right there. He was just terrible.
- RogerRoeper

In all fairness, he was 20. You don't give up on talent like that.

Seguin is not better than Krejci "hands down". Better scorer? Sure. Seguin was likely never going to play center if he stayed with the Bruins.

Krejci has more playoff points in one playoff run than seguin has had in his full 50 playoff games.
- Mahewman

Ok homer! Krejci had a great playoff this year. Fact of the matter is they should of traded Krejci and kept Seguin.