BTW: Teams can't offer-sheet Krug or Smith. You gotta have three years experience in the league to get an offer-sheet.
- tyanderson

You sure? I could not find anything that says that but did find this:

10.2 Restricted Free Agents

(a) [a.k.a.] Group 2 Players [a.k.a. “RFAs”] […].

(i)

(A) […] Any [RFA can] negotiate and […] sign an SPC with any Club, and any Club [can] negotiate and sign an SPC with any [RFA] […].

The way I read that is ANYONE who is RFA can sign a contract with ANY team. So unless there is a rule that specifically counters this Smith should be able to sign a contract anywhere. Otherwise his RFA status would be a nightmare for the player.

"Sign for this terrible longer term deal or accept the offer sheet or you don't play in the NHL this year"

Yikes.

You sure? I could not find anything that says that but did find this:

10.2 Restricted Free Agents

(a)
- Steven_Dean[a.k.a.] Group 2 Players [a.k.a. “RFAs”] […].

(i)

(A) […] Any [RFA can] negotiate and […] sign an SPC with any Club, and any Club [can] negotiate and sign an SPC with any [RFA] […].

The way I read that is ANYONE who is RFA can sign a contract with ANY team. So unless there is a rule that specifically counters this Smith should be able to sign a contract anywhere. Otherwise his RFA status would be a nightmare for the player.

"Sign for this terrible longer term deal or accept the offer sheet or you don't play in the NHL this year"

Yikes.

From 10.2 (c)

Any Player with fewer than the required years of professional experience set forth in Section 10.2 shall have no right to Free Agency except as provided in this section. Upon expiration of such a Player's SPC, the Club to whom the Player was last under SPC shall be entitled to make that Player a Qualifying Offer under the terms and conditions set forth in Section 10.2(a)(ii) above. A Club which makes this Qualifying Offer will have the exclusive right to negotiate with any such Player. In the event no such Qualifying Offer is made, the
Player shall immediately become an Unrestricted Free Agent

CBA says that a season can be considered at least 10 games. Krug and Smith don't have three of those, and they were both qualified, so the Bruins have exclusive rights this summer.

Questions to look at:

1. Were the Bruins going to play Seguin at Center over Krecji and Bergeron?
2. Does Seguin fit into the style of the Bruins?
3. Is Seguin more than a regular season player, can you lean on him to win with?

Answers:
1. NO
2. NO
3. Time will tell but as of right now it doesn't appear to be

So why not trade him?

Joe Thornton and now Tyler Seguin...this won't end well and you know it. That said, he did help the Bruins win their first Cup in many many years, so it wasn't all that bad.

I'd support the NHL draft going back to kids that are 19.

I don't know what the Bruins were thinking honestly. It was an absolute coup having the opportunity to land Seguin in the first place, how they could turn around and give up on him so easily is confounding. It was a toss up in the 2010 draft as to who was going to go first overall, meaning, at spot number 2 you were basically drafting first overall. He contributed 7 points in 13 playoff games for the B's cup run in his rookie year, which isn't bad for a teenager who wasn't used to the grueling regular season, never mind adding 14 more games of playoff hockey. Year two he had 67 points in 81 games, leading the Bruins in scoring.

The lockout shortened season proved to be the turning point in Seguins tenure as a Bruin. He was criticized for being a bit of a mess, drinking and partying, not cleaning his apartment in Switzerland, and god knows what other "TYPICAL" thing a kid his age would do on a field trip to Europe with Mommy and Daddy's American Express platinum card. If that were me?? I'd be dead. The Bruins would have nothing left TO trade.

Seguin ripped it up in Switzerland, both on and off the ice. Not so much when he returned to Boston. A sub-par regular season, and a dismal playoff later, and Seguin was on his way out. Personally, I think management laid down the law with Seguin and he balked. Any kid that age will tell you that authority sucks. Any kid that age with bags of money NEED to be handled a certain way, delicately in my opinion, never to be blinded of the long-term implications at hand.

So here we are now. Seguin is a star in more ways than one ,the Bruins?They came up short last spring, and they lost their leading scorer for the second time in 3 years. All in all, they gave up on a platinum chip star for a sack of second and third rounders, and a sloppy second 1st rounder from Pittsburgh. Enjoy the downward slope you are about to suffer through. The only Bruin that's going to lift the cup for the next decade or so, are going to be former one's, like Tyler Seguin.

I don't know what the Bruins were thinking honestly. It was an absolute coup having the opportunity to land Seguin in the first place, how they could turn around and give up on him so easily is confounding. It was a toss up in the 2010 draft as to who was going to go first overall, meaning, at spot number 2 you were basically drafting first overall. He contributed 7 points in 13 playoff games for the B's cup run in his rookie year, which isn't bad for a teenager who wasn't used to the grueling regular season, never mind adding 14 more games of playoff hockey. Year two he had 67 points in 81 games, leading the Bruins in scoring.

The lockout shortened season proved to be the turning point in Seguins tenure as a Bruin. He was criticized for being a bit of a mess, drinking and partying, not cleaning his apartment in Switzerland, and god knows what other "TYPICAL" thing a kid his age would do on a field trip to Europe with Mommy and Daddy's American Express platinum card. If that were me?? I'd be dead. The Bruins would have nothing left TO trade.

Seguin ripped it up in Switzerland, both on and off the ice. Not so much when he returned to Boston. A sub-par regular season, and a dismal playoff later, and Seguin was on his way out. Personally, I think management laid down the law with Seguin and he balked. Any kid that age will tell you that authority sucks. Any kid that age with bags of money NEED to be handled a certain way, delicately in my opinion, never to be blinded of the long-term implications at hand.

So here we are now. Seguin is a star in more ways than one ,the Bruins?They came up short last spring, and they lost their leading scorer for the second time in 3 years. All in all, they gave up on a platinum chip star for a sack of second and third rounders, and a sloppy second 1st rounder from Pittsburgh. Enjoy the downward slope you are about to suffer through. The only Bruin that's going to lift the cup for the next decade or so, are going to be former one's, like Tyler Seguin.
- jazzca1974

Jesus, tell us how you really feel...

Questions to look at:

1. Were the Bruins going to play Seguin at Center over Krecji and Bergeron?
2. Does Seguin fit into the style of the Bruins?
3. Is Seguin more than a regular season player, can you lean on him to win with?

Answers:
1. NO
2. NO
3. Time will tell but as of right now it doesn't appear to be

So why not trade him?
- 33BauerStar33

Seguin is better than Krejci hands down. Seguin was 21 and Krejci 27. Seguin's. upside is Superstar and Krejci is a very good player (also as good as he will ever be).

From 10.2 (c)

Any Player with fewer than the required years of professional experience set forth in Section 10.2 shall have no right to Free Agency except as provided in this section. Upon expiration of such a Player's SPC, the Club to whom the Player was last under SPC shall be entitled to make that Player a Qualifying Offer under the terms and conditions set forth in Section 10.2(a)(ii) above. A Club which makes this Qualifying Offer will have the exclusive right to negotiate with any such Player. In the event no such Qualifying Offer is made, the
Player shall immediately become an Unrestricted Free Agent

CBA says that a season can be considered at least 10 games. Krug and Smith don't have three of those, and they were both qualified, so the Bruins have exclusive rights this summer.
- tyanderson

I guess that bolded part is the only indicator that they cannot be given an Offer Sheet. Although it would have been nice if they used the term "Offer Sheet", oh well it still works, lol.

Weird though that rumors are out there that teams are considering offer sheets for Smith.

Ty Anderson: A year ago yesterday: Boston's biggest mistake?
- tyanderson

Just having to not look at his ugly face every game should be seen as a victory.

Just having to not look at his ugly face every game should be seen as a victory.
- systemtool

Hey hammer. How's life?

Just having to not look at his ugly face every game should be seen as a victory.
- systemtool

Thats why they traded Kessel too

Thats why they traded Kessel too
- forbetterorWORSE

Was Spezza traded for his laugh?

Thats why they traded Kessel too
- forbetterorWORSE

They shod of trade kreci instead.you still could have trade seguin if he didn't get his act together .odds were he was just being a kid becoming a man

The things some teams will do to win now is incredible. Not that I'm defending the trade but The Bruins are in a very competitive sports market. The pressure to win can push very competent managements to make hasty decisions.

The things some teams will do to win now is incredible. Not that I'm defending the trade but The Bruins are in a very competitive sports market. The pressure to win can push very competent managements to make hasty decisions.
- andrest

McDonaugh

I guess that bolded part is the only indicator that they cannot be given an Offer Sheet. Although it would have been nice if they used the term "Offer Sheet", oh well it still works, lol.

Weird though that rumors are out there that teams are considering offer sheets for Smith.
- Steven_Dean

I think he's wrong here. That's a misinterpretation that I've never came across. As far as my understanding goes, and all other iterations of offer sheets I have read, there is no 3-year cap that excludes RFAs from offer sheets. If a team has the available draft picks, and the player is a RFA, he can be offer sheeted.\

The CBA lays out in both cases that a player who has completed his entry-level requirement may negotiate a contract with any team he wishes; the difference between restricted and unrestricted free agency is that in the event a player is an RFA, the team which holds his rights has a right to match an offer the player receives or get draft pick compensation for the player leaving. The player "earns" his way out of restricted status by accruing either enough seasons (7) or simply growing old enough (age 27 by June 30th of that year).

Horrific trade. And unlike the Leafs, Boston knew who they were trading.

Chara has dropped-off big-time, And Boston is the slowest team in the NHL. They have peaked,

Joe Thornton and now Tyler Seguin...this won't end well and you know it. That said, he did help the Bruins win their first Cup in many many years, so it wasn't all that bad.

I'd support the NHL draft going back to kids that are 19.
- LeftCoaster

Trading Joe allowed the Bruins to get Savard and Chara, which also allowed other free agents to see what the Bruins were trying to do. End result, a Cup.
Trading Seguin had to be done. 6 mil for 3rd line center. No team would pay that anyone could tell you this. Why did the B's give him the 6 mil contract in the first place you ask? Cuz the Oilers in their infinite wisdom gave Hall 6 mil for no real reason whatsoever.
Joe was useless in playoffs and hasn't won sqaut since he left the Bruins so don't start. Seguin had to be shipped out, too much cash for his role. No he isnt a better then Krecji nor Bergeron. Scoring sure, all around player, not on his best day.

Trading Joe allowed the Bruins to get Savard and Chara, which also allowed other free agents to see what the Bruins were trying to do. End result, a Cup.
Trading Seguin had to be done. 6 mil for 3rd line center. No team would pay that anyone could tell you this. Why did the B's give him the 6 mil contract in the first place you ask? Cuz the Oilers in their infinite wisdom gave Hall 6 mil for no real reason whatsoever.
Joe was useless in playoffs and hasn't won sqaut since he left the Bruins so don't start. Seguin had to be shipped out, too much cash for his role. No he isnt a better then Krecji nor Bergeron. Scoring sure, all around player, not on his best day.
- Thornton22

This isn't David Bolland. This is Seguin. Only 21, with a 60+ point season under his belt. Many teams would have found room for him.

I think he's wrong here. That's a misinterpretation that I've never came across. As far as my understanding goes, and all other iterations of offer sheets I have read, there is no 3-year cap that excludes RFAs from offer sheets. If a team has the available draft picks, and the player is a RFA, he can be offer sheeted.\
- Blackstrom2

If there's a qualifying offer made to a player with less than three years experience, their rights are exclusive to that team, meaning there can't be any talk/sheet from another club. It's harder to explain, so here's what Chiarelli told us on July 1st:

"Torey Krug and Reilly Smith -- they’re not restricted free agents. They’re called entry-level free agents, so they don’t really have anywhere to go. They can’t talk to other teams. And it may be that they have to play on a one-year deal, and we’ll find money for them at some point. They deserve raises at some point. But it’s tighter. I mean, in general, I think a lot of teams thought it would be a million bucks more, so it’s not that much different."

We got Matt Fraser in that deal too. He looks like a potential stud winger.

With Seguin, Bruins would of been in the finals and probably won the cup. Bruins are not fast enough and Seguin brings exactly that.
- Champ

In fairness, if Seguin shows up in the 2013' playoffs, they probably have a second cup right there. He was just terrible.

If there's a qualifying offer made to a player with less than three years experience, their rights are exclusive to that team, meaning there can't be any talk/sheet from another club. It's harder to explain, so here's what Chiarelli told us on July 1st:

"Torey Krug and Reilly Smith -- they’re not restricted free agents. They’re called entry-level free agents, so they don’t really have anywhere to go. They can’t talk to other teams. And it may be that they have to play on a one-year deal, and we’ll find money for them at some point. They deserve raises at some point. But it’s tighter. I mean, in general, I think a lot of teams thought it would be a million bucks more, so it’s not that much different."
- tyanderson

It just seems weird because the CBA clearly states that a player is allowed to negotiate with any team once off his ELC. But I guess it's 3 years of pro, not just his ELC burned. Did they sign two-year ELCs? How did they not slide a year and it still not count as a "pro" year? I just don't understand how they are considered entry-level still.

edit; Okay, Capgeek helped me out a bit. Krug somehow had all 3 years of his ELC burned off, but only has two qualified "pro" seasons. Smith is the same; normal 3-year ELC for drafted players, but for some reason his first year, of 3 NHL games did not slide. So only two "pro" seasons. Essentially, either Krug and Smith or their teams made the decision not to slide the first year when they made the jump from NCAA to the NHL, but neither played 10 games. So the year counted against their ELC, but not against their "full RFA eligibility"-ness...for lack of a better term.

looks like the Dallas Stars won the Kessel trade

Either way man...I only said Snow cause he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to being a GM anyways. So I figured he'd be ok with offering him 45 Million a season over the next 200 years.

Besides there are alot of teams that can offer Smith about 3 million a season and happily give up only a 2nd rounder.

As for Smith, if I were in his shoes I'd take a 2 - 3 year deal at 3 million a season anyways. I mean the Bruins can't give you that money and what has he really done to deserve more?

Perhaps Krug is a better idea for the offer sheet? Maybe Bartkowski? I dunno, just saying I would be shocked if someone didn't screw with the Bruins.

Then again what did Englland do to deserve his? So I'll just shut up now.
- Kaden

Except Snow has the Islanders looking pretty good after taking over with them literally in the worst position of any team ever. Not including the Vanek trade, which depending on how good the Isles are this year, might not even be that bad, can you even name one bad move he's made? Probably not, because you probably don't pay attention at all