I don't know, I'd take JvR. Considering the interest in RoR, he might come at a slightly cheaper price.
- willschulme

Most people with any real hockey since would pick JVR over ROR they are both very good but one has a bit more going for him

any article that mentions the leafs and you will get hundreds of hits and lots of comments #centreofthehockey universe

subban files for arbritration and no one even cares

Most people with any real hockey since would pick JVR over ROR they are both very good but one has a bit more going for him
- Daddichronic

It depends what sort of player you want, they play really different style.
ROR isn't physical (only 22 hits last season) but he is very smart and effortless in winning puck battles with his little stick life moves and transitioning the puck (83 takeaways, 36 give aways). Has selke candidate written all over him (was 5th in voting this season)

JVR is a pure power forward, 118 hits, but he has game breaking ability over ROR, just he lacks that defensive 2way instincts (41 give aways, 36 take aways).

Its who do you want, the Big Power forward Winger, or the slick 2way center.

It depends what sort of player you want, they play really different style.
ROR isn't physical (only 22 hits last season) but he is very smart and effortless in winning puck battles with his little stick life moves and transitioning the puck (83 takeaways, 36 give aways). Has selke candidate written all over him (was 5th in voting this season)

JVR is a pure power forward, 118 hits, but he has game breaking ability over ROR, just he lacks that defensive 2way instincts (41 give aways, 36 take aways).

Its who do you want, the Big Power forward Winger, or the slick 2way center.
- DDM-Coga

I think you get a better player with ROR than JVR to be honest. If JVR's nationality was Canadian, he definitely wouldn't have made it on the Olympic roster.
- biglove89

I doubt that.

Most people with any real hockey since would pick JVR over ROR they are both very good but one has a bit more going for him
- Daddichronic

You can't compare the players head to head - they play different roles and any trade would have to look at if that particular player addresses a particular area of concern for the team.

The Leafs desperately need players like ROR who have an offensive upside and are extremely capable in the defensive zone. If secondary scoring wasn't as much of a concern (Lupul's health most importantly), I'd consider that move.

The Leafs possession numbers were dreadful. Upgrades on the defensive end will certainly help address it, but so will icing skillful two way players like ROR.

It depends what sort of player you want, they play really different style.
ROR isn't physical (only 22 hits last season) but he is very smart and effortless in winning puck battles with his little stick life moves and transitioning the puck (83 takeaways, 36 give aways). Has selke candidate written all over him (was 5th in voting this season)

JVR is a pure power forward, 118 hits, but he has game breaking ability over ROR, just he lacks that defensive 2way instincts (41 give aways, 36 take aways).

Its who do you want, the Big Power forward Winger, or the slick 2way center.
- DDM-Coga

Being rational will get you nowhere.

Being rational will get you nowhere.
- BetterCallSaul

Fine JVR, Gardiner, plus a pick for ROR, lets kick this off for round 2

Fine JVR, Gardiner, plus a pick for ROR, lets kick this off for round 2
- DDM-Coga

Franson, Gardiner for ROR and a 1st.

Your move.

You can't compare the players head to head - they play different roles and any trade would have to look at if that particular player addresses a particular area of concern for the team.

The Leafs desperately need players like ROR who have an offensive upside and are extremely capable in the defensive zone. If secondary scoring wasn't as much of a concern (Lupul's health most importantly), I'd consider that move.

The Leafs possession numbers were dreadful. Upgrades on the defensive end will certainly help address it, but so will icing skillful two way players like ROR.
- Canuckleafer

We need both..but I wouldn't give up JVR..maybe a deal like Lupul and Phaneuf for ROR would make a lot more sense. .but trading away JVR would set us back way to much..He is a 24 yr old power forward who will score 30 -40 goals and you build around those guys not take them away at almost any cost

Fine JVR, Gardiner, plus a pick for ROR, lets kick this off for round 2
- DDM-Coga

Sniffing newsprint again are we??. ..This shows you have almost no hockey sence at all

Franson, Gardiner for ROR and a 1st.

Your move.
- BetterCallSaul

JVR and Reilly for ROR, Tanguay wearing a Chris Drury Jersey

Sniffing newsprint again are we??. ..This shows you have almost no hockey sence at all
- Daddichronic

you should probably read the context of what I was responding to first. Sarcasm is hard for some

Franson, Gardiner for ROR and a 1st.

Your move.
- BetterCallSaul

This move I would do..I'd even change the first to a second pick but that's a better deal I think for both

you should probably read the context of what I was responding to first. Sarcasm is hard for some
- DDM-Coga

I should hope so...my bad then. .you'd be surprised what some people post and are serious about it. .my apologies

This move I would do..I'd even change the first to a second pick but that's a better deal I think for both
- Daddichronic

Of course you would, two bit players for a center that's better than any you have plus a 1st? It's so laughably lopsided any leaf fan who wouldn't make the deal should have his head examined. That's why it's a silly proposal

Of course you would, two bit players for a center that's better than any you have plus a 1st? It's so laughably lopsided any leaf fan who wouldn't make the deal should have his head examined. That's why it's a silly proposal
- Isles_since_6

I think my Tanguay wearing a Drury jersey was a reasonable proposal, I think they will take it

as an isles fan it is awesome to see interest in Bailey and hopefully some team out there will over value him. Sure, with a change of scenery he could possibly do better as he does have sick hands when he does score it's just not consistent enough to earn the money he is making.

package grabner, bailey, donovan for Yandle. make it so Garth

[quo te=Isles_since_6]Of course you would, two bit players for a center that's better than any you have plus a 1st? It's so laughably lopsided any leaf fan who wouldn't make the deal should have his head examined. That's why it's a silly proposal
Yes..He would be the best Centre we have but in no way would he be the best player we have..A 24 yr old skilled defenceman who scored 11 goals is far from a two bit player. .Franson has a great shot also and hits pretty hard..Colorado has a big scoring up from but on D .they can use some skill and that would be addressed. Either Phaneuf or franson with Gardner and a pick would be a great trade for both

Yes..He would be the best Centre we have but in no way would he be the best player we have..A 24 yr old skilled defenceman who scored 11 goals is far from a two bit player. .Franson has a great shot also and hits pretty hard..Colorado has a big scoring up from but on D .they can use some skill and that would be addressed. Either Phaneuf or franson with Gardner and a pick would be a great trade for both
- Daddichronic

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Dion is a salary dump, you don't get an upgrade and a 1st for a salary dump.
- Isles_since_6[/img]

How is Dion a salary dump? Orpik just got 5.5 million. Letang makes 67 million.

This move I would do..I'd even change the first to a second pick but that's a better deal I think for both
- Daddichronic

How is Dion a salary dump? Orpik just got 5.5 million. Letang makes 67 million.
- RogerRoeper

Salary aint bad.....but it will be in a few years.