I see your point
With Hossa having back problems the past couple of years, he may be a year away from 3rd line duty - do you trade him instead of sharp????
- dpard

Hossa was terrible this year in the playoffs. Given the fact his contract runs until the end of time, I would.

have a question.... Since Hawks signed Richards what is needed to complete the roster before opening night?

Also, is it fair to say that it seems like the Hawks most tradable assets are Leddy & Sharp that GM is willing to part w/off the roster?

No chance oduya signs a same figure salary. Absolutely no chance. Have you seen the d man Ufa market? He's going to get at least 5 million and may offer the Hawks 4.5-4.75 for longer term. He's not Jesus Christ. He can be replaced.

And yes, rozsival needs to go. He'd old, slow, and blocking a roster spot. He's this upcoming years handzus.

Leddy may fetch you more because of the could be and pending Rea status but you have to listen to on oduya.

I'm just ecstatic teuvo will start in Rockford so all these clowns thinking he's ready now can get a reality check. Far from it.
- SteveRain

Rozy is on the last year of his contract.

Hossa was terrible this year in the playoffs. Given the fact his contract runs until the end of time, I would.
- Elbows15

Isnt Hossa's contract a full NTC? so it might be more difficult to move?

have a question.... Since Hawks signed Richards what is needed to complete the roster before opening night?

Also, is it fair to say that it seems like the Hawks most tradable assets are Leddy & Sharp that GM is willing to part w/off the roster?
- Ur Not Me

Nothing really. Need to move someone to get under the cap. About 1.3 over.

Isnt Hossa's contract a full NTC? so it might be more difficult to move?
- Ur Not Me

NTC have nothing to do with moving someone. Players waive them all the time.

have a question.... Since Hawks signed Richards what is needed to complete the roster before opening night?

Also, is it fair to say that it seems like the Hawks most tradable assets are Leddy & Sharp that GM is willing to part w/off the roster?
- Ur Not Me

They need to clear couple million+ in cap space ($1.8 to 2.2m). No one really knows who Bowman is most willing to part with, just that Sharp and Leddy are the most commonly brought up in rumors because they have good value as a high scoring vet and an offensive puck carrying young d-man.

Oduya and Rozsival are also only the possible trade list because of their contracts (pending UFA next summer), age, and cap hits.

They need to sheep couple million+ in cap space ($1.8 to 2.2m). No one really knows who Bowman is most willing to part with, just that Sharp and Leddy are the most commonly brought up in rumors because they have good value as a high scoring vet and an offensive puck carrying young d-man.

Oduya and Rozsival are also only the possible trade list because of their contracts (pending UFA next summer), age, and cap hits.
- L_B_R

Bowman probably needs to clear out a little more than that. There needs to be about $800,000 in cap room beyond that to be able to re-call someone from Rockford if needed.

Read what I said. And you know as much about it as I do.
- Elbows15

I did and find me a pending Ufa who took almost the same salary and was still in his prime. A top 4 d man. He doesn't exist. It's not happening.

And you don't know if leddy will be worse then oduya in the next deal. Oduya was awful before getting here and pairing with hammer. New jersey. Winnipeg all gave up on the future hall of famer. Go back and watch the Phoenix series when he was coughing up pucks at the first sign of contact.

I get it. You like him. Saying they deal him and theyre not contenders is .....

NTC have nothing to do with moving someone. Players waive them all the time.
- Elbows15

With his age & contract length is really my point I guess that I didn't mention.
My bad...

have a question.... Since Hawks signed Richards what is needed to complete the roster before opening night?

Also, is it fair to say that it seems like the Hawks most tradable assets are Leddy & Sharp that GM is willing to part w/off the roster?
- Ur Not Me

With regin signed for the next year, kruger might be an option to move - he'll be looking for an uptick next year and he has not shown a scoring touch at all. Then TT could start at 3C and flip to 2C when Richards tires out at the end of the year. TT needs to get in the lineup next year

I did and find me a pending Ufa who took almost the same salary and was still in his prime. A top 4 d man. He doesn't exist. It's not happening.
- SteveRain

Hjalmarsson?

Rozy is on the last year of his contract.
- Elbows15

So was handzus this year.

Rozsival was brutal this postseason. Just the beginning. Get ahead of it and dump him before you ar3 forced to trot him out there

Nothing really. Need to move someone to get under the cap. About 1.3 over.
- Elbows15

Survey says: $2.2MM over, with a full roster.

Bowman probably needs to clear out a little more than that. There needs to be about $800,000 in cap room beyond that to be able to re-call someone from Rockford if needed.
- EKolb13

Hmm yes, probably more, though it depends on who they clear away, really. If it's 2 d-men like Leddy and Rosival and they are replaced with Rock kids on 2-way deals (plus maybe Brookbank), they'll have flexibility with who they bring up and send down.

Safer to move more though, I agree.

Hjalmarsson?
- EKolb13

For the exact same money and he also got term I believe.

It's exactly the same asinine thought that 19/88 were taking some friendly deal. Really? If they were they would be done by now. 9+ is looming. That's why they are still negotiating.

Survey says: $2.2MM over, with a full roster.
- StLBravesFan

Take teuvo off roster. He's not starting the year in Chicago. Baring a trade that frees up a LOT of cap space.

I did and find me a pending Ufa who took almost the same salary and was still in his prime. A top 4 d man. He doesn't exist. It's not happening.

And you don't know if leddy will be worse then oduya in the next deal. Oduya was awful before getting here and pairing with hammer. New jersey. Winnipeg all gave up on the future hall of famer. Go back and watch the Phoenix series when he was coughing up pucks at the first sign of contact.

I get it. You like him. Saying they deal him and theyre not contenders is .....
- SteveRain

HjaLmarsson. Thinking Leddy can replace Oduya is....

Go back and watch the Boston series where he was outstanding and they don't win the Cup without him.

Hossa was terrible this year in the playoffs. Given the fact his contract runs until the end of time, I would.
- Elbows15

Given the same fact - and the disastrous effects of him retiring - and his age - and his cap hit - and his salary ($2.7 higher than his cap hit for 2 more years) - who would take him?

So was handzus this year.

Rozsival was brutal this postseason. Just the beginning. Get ahead of it and dump him before you ar3 forced to trot him out there
- SteveRain

Its asinine to think someone is going to trade for him. Keep trying though.

For the exact same money and he also got term I believe.

It's exactly the same asinine thought that 19/88 were taking some friendly deal. Really? If they were they would be done by now. 9+ is looming. That's why they are still negotiating.
- SteveRain

No, I wasn't trying to relate this to the Toews/Kane taking a real sweetheart deal argument. C'mon, you know that I know better than that.

However, Oduya is not Toews or Kane. He could take a hometown discount, just like Hjalmarsson - who took a $600,000 raise over 5 years. I'm not saying that this is the way it will shake out, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities either.

With regin signed for the next year, kruger might be an option to move - he'll be looking for an uptick next year and he has not shown a scoring touch at all. Then TT could start at 3C and flip to 2C when Richards tires out at the end of the year. TT needs to get in the lineup next year
- dpard

Thanks... and to all as well for responding.

So the Hawks are satisfied at the C position w/addition of Richards is my take from some responses?

Now how about the D besides the top 3 of Sea/Keith/Hjal. Does Oduya & leddy solidify the 4/5 and still have Rosi as a 6th?

HjaLmarsson. Thinking Leddy can replace Oduya is....

Go back and watch the Boston series where he was outstanding and they don't win the Cup without him.
- Elbows15

Hammer got an offer sheet where the money was above his actual value. Hawks extended him at market value. Big difference. Without offer sheet hammers last deal is quite less.

Hossa was terrible this year in the playoffs. Given the fact his contract runs until the end of time, I would.
- Elbows15

If the Hawks move Hossa and he retires, they would still be on the hook for some of that cap penalty, yes? It might be better to keep him on the roster so the Blackhawks have control of the situation and then figure out a work around ala LTIR with him.

I also don't think it's fair to say he was terrible in the playoffs. He has 14 points in 19 games, above average possession numbers, all while facing the highest to second highest quality of competition on the ice at any given time. I would agree that he was not at his best, though, for sure.

Take teuvo off roster. He's not starting the year in Chicago. Baring a trade that frees up a LOT of cap space.
- SteveRain

And his replacement on the roster?

Unless you agree with Nester about going with 22 skaters - but you still need Eli's (correctly stated, IMO) 800,000 cap room for an injury call up.

No matter how you look at it: still need to lose a net cap hit go about $3MM.