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z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jul 7 @ 5:16 PM ET
Sweet, we are bringing in a guy with a career .871 sv pct to be the new guy to coach Crawford

What? DiPietro wasnt available?

- FourFeathers773[/


Wow. Cut some slack. Sometimes knowledge and the physical ability to perform don't always match up. Let's see what he does. Rough board lately.


JJ we need a new thread. This one has gone south a tad.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 7 @ 5:17 PM ET
I was just doing the old guys.
- Canardhawk


Well, then:

1. Mosienko's
2. Bentley
3. Bentley
4. Connacht
5. Gottsleig
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 7 @ 5:18 PM ET
I thought McDonald played with Hull and Hay.
- Canardhawk


Balfour with Hull and Hay on the Million Dollar Line
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:19 PM ET
Well, then:

1. Mosienko's
2. Bentley
3. Bentley
4. Connacht
5. Gottsleig

- StLBravesFan


I guess compared to those guys Chico Maki falls into the modern era category.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 7 @ 5:20 PM ET
I was out of High School when he was here.
- Canardhawk


Me too.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:22 PM ET
Well, then:

1. Mosienko's
2. Bentley
3. Bentley
4. Connacht
5. Gottsleig

- StLBravesFan


Did you see them play?
Iknockuout
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: WV
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 7 @ 5:23 PM ET
Was Jimmy Waite the guy Belfour freaked on in practice, pushed him against the wall and told to quit acting like it was his job? Right before Belfour went to San Jose...
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 7 @ 5:25 PM ET
Saw him play plenty of times 66. Went to my first game when I was 3. MY Dad was a huge Hawk fan going back to the 40's.

Went to a ton of games as a kid.

- Elbows15


Until Hull and Mikita came on board in about 1958, the Blackhawks were the fifth team in a four-team town (no Bulls then).

If they got an inch each week in the four newspapers, something big had happened.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:26 PM ET
I know this is completely unrelated, but I think it's interesting to touch upon the difference(s) between the NBA version of "free agency", and the other sports (particularly the NHL and less-so NFL and MLB).

While free agency begun at the same time in the NHL and NBA, in the NHL, the big moves are made almost immediately within the first couple of days. Players already have an idea of whether or not they are leaving, what kind of money they are looking for, and don't have a list of "teams" that they are are absolutely targeting/stubborn about (unless of course they are traded or whatnot).

In the NHL, MLB, and NFL, the beauty of free agency is that teams like CHI, NY, and LA could be favorites for X player heading into free agency, but a team like Colorado could swoop in and snag said-player. You never REALLY know.

In the NBA, free agency is almost TOO predictable. And what frustrates me about it is that the players themselves are more stubborn about singing because they try to see what other dominoes fall first or perhaps who could recruit them or where they can form the next "big three".

More specifically, I am talking about Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James (for those non-NBA followers, those are two of the biggest names in basketball).

BOTH players want to be paid the maximum salary. Both players are "weighing their options" and going from team to team and getting pitches from them as to why they should sign with them. They then take into account "okay, where can I make the most money, have the best living situation, and where can I win". What frustrates me about this process is that during the NBA free agency, ALL players are essentially linked, and almost every team is somehow affected.

As intense and discouraging this may sound, it really irks me that teams don't do anything until those players are sorted out.

As a matter of fact, I think I can recall exactly when Brad Richards was a FA before he signed with NY and left Dallas. I think it took 2-3 (might be wrong) weeks for him to sign (he was the biggest name on the market), but that didn't affect other teams from going on and improving their teams/waiting on his decision. Same goes for the idea of "recruiting". It doesn't happen frequently (from what I imagine), and Brad Richards didn't need to be wooed by his friend Henrik Lundqvist (for example). The only example I can think of players "uniting" is Zack Parise and Ryan Suter with the Wild, but even then that is NOT the norm. (Ryan Kesler wanting to play with his friend Kaner doesn't really count).

I kind of went on a tangent there and just wanted to let off steam for the way that this Carmelo/LeBron saga is playing out.

tl; dr - NBA free agency sucks, and is much worse than NHL free agency, as well as NFL and MLB.
Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Pilot, NC
Joined: 02.13.2014

Jul 7 @ 5:26 PM ET
Well, then:

1. Mosienko's
2. Bentley
3. Bentley
4. Connacht
5. Gottsleig

- StLBravesFan

I never saw any of those guys. Don't forget to take your fiber tonight.
PFD_Hawks
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 02.25.2012

Jul 7 @ 5:26 PM ET
Was Jimmy Waite the guy Belfour freaked on in practice, pushed him against the wall and told to quit acting like it was his job? Right before Belfour went to San Jose...
- Iknockuout

Jeff Hackett
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 7 @ 5:26 PM ET
Did you see them play?
- Elbows15


No: even I was too young (although the first 3 were in the 50's).

See my post a couple above: not sure I knew the Blackhawks existed until Mikita and Hull came up.
faustus1500
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Decatur, IL
Joined: 07.16.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:27 PM ET
Sooooooooo......Jimmy Waite is the new goalie coach.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:27 PM ET
Until Hull and Mikita came on board in about 1958, the Blackhawks were the fifth team in a four-team town (no Bulls then).

If they got an inch each week in the four newspapers, something big had happened.

- StLBravesFan

I know. My Dad had season tickets in the 50's. He used to talk about all the old players.
Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Pilot, NC
Joined: 02.13.2014

Jul 7 @ 5:27 PM ET
[quote=FourFeathers773]Sweet, we are bringing in a guy with a career .871 sv pct to be the new guy to coach Crawford

What? DiPietro wasnt available?

- z1990z[/


Wow. Cut some slack. Sometimes knowledge and the physical ability to perform don't always match up. Let's see what he does. Rough board lately.


JJ we need a new thread. This one has gone south a tad.

We're making a concerted effort to take it north again, give us time.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:28 PM ET
No: even I was too young (although the first 3 were in the 50's).

See my post a couple above: not sure I knew the Blackhawks existed until Mikita and Hull came up.

- StLBravesFan

Then you missed the key point of my post. That you liked to WATCH play.
Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Pilot, NC
Joined: 02.13.2014

Jul 7 @ 5:29 PM ET
Then you missed the key point of my post. That you liked to WATCH play.
- Elbows15

Anybody that old is allowed to miss a few words now and then. Lighten up Buttons.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 7 @ 5:30 PM ET
Damn, how old are you?
- Canardhawk


I've lived in at least parts of 7 decades
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:31 PM ET
I know this is completely unrelated, but I think it's interesting to touch upon the difference(s) between the NBA version of "free agency", and the other sports (particularly the NHL and less-so NFL and MLB).

While free agency begun at the same time in the NHL and NBA, in the NHL, the big moves are made almost immediately within the first couple of days. Players already have an idea of whether or not they are leaving, what kind of money they are looking for, and don't have a list of "teams" that they are are absolutely targeting/stubborn about (unless of course they are traded or whatnot).

In the NHL, MLB, and NFL, the beauty of free agency is that teams like CHI, NY, and LA could be favorites for X player heading into free agency, but a team like Colorado could swoop in and snag said-player. You never REALLY know.

In the NBA, free agency is almost TOO predictable. And what frustrates me about it is that the players themselves are more stubborn about singing because they try to see what other dominoes fall first or perhaps who could recruit them or where they can form the next "big three".

More specifically, I am talking about Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James (for those non-NBA followers, those are two of the biggest names in basketball).

BOTH players want to be paid the maximum salary. Both players are "weighing their options" and going from team to team and getting pitches from them as to why they should sign with them. They then take into account "okay, where can I make the most money, have the best living situation, and where can I win". What frustrates me about this process is that during the NBA free agency, ALL players are essentially linked, and almost every team is somehow affected.

As intense and discouraging this may sound, it really irks me that teams don't do anything until those players are sorted out.

As a matter of fact, I think I can recall exactly when Brad Richards was a FA before he signed with NY and left Dallas. I think it took 2-3 (might be wrong) weeks for him to sign (he was the biggest name on the market), but that didn't affect other teams from going on and improving their teams/waiting on his decision. Same goes for the idea of "recruiting". It doesn't happen frequently (from what I imagine), and Brad Richards didn't need to be wooed by his friend Henrik Lundqvist (for example). The only example I can think of players "uniting" is Zack Parise and Ryan Suter with the Wild, but even then that is NOT the norm. (Ryan Kesler wanting to play with his friend Kaner doesn't really count).

I kind of went on a tangent there and just wanted to let off steam for the way that this Carmelo/LeBron saga is playing out.

tl; dr - NBA free agency sucks, and is much worse than NHL free agency, as well as NFL and MLB.

- TommyHawk


Couldn't have said it better myself. Shorter maybe but for sure not better.



Just kidding TommyHawk. The new CBA in the NBA is ruining that league.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 7 @ 5:31 PM ET
We're making a concerted effort to take it north again, give us time.
- Canardhawk


Hard to turn something this big and unwieldy.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:31 PM ET
Anybody that old is allowed to miss a few words now and then. Lighten up Buttons.
- Canardhawk


Don't tell me how to live my life.
Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Pilot, NC
Joined: 02.13.2014

Jul 7 @ 5:32 PM ET
I've lived in at least parts of 7 decades
- 6628

You're getting there.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 7 @ 5:32 PM ET
Then you missed the key point of my post. That you liked to WATCH play.
- Elbows15


Well, exCUUUUUUse me!!!!!!
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:33 PM ET
I've lived in at least parts of 7 decades
- 6628

(frank). Thanks for depressing me. I just missed by 3 months.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 7 @ 5:33 PM ET
I've lived in at least parts of 7 decades
- 6628


8 here.
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