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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 7:11 PM ET
Anyone willing to go through a short rebuild?
- nails

Well, honestly, I think that was Homer's plan when he went out and traded Richards and Carter.

What he didn't see coming, I bet, was for them to make the playoffs in what? A full season after those trades?

I think we just skipped the middle parts of the "rebuild"/"mini rebuild" and went right to being a borderline contender
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:18 PM ET
Well, honestly, I think that was Homer's plan when he went out and traded Richards and Carter.

What he didn't see coming, I bet, was for them to make the playoffs in what? A full season after those trades?

I think we just skipped the middle parts of the "rebuild"/"mini rebuild" and went right to being a borderline contender

- Giroux_Is_God


yeah, but are we better for it? Are they really a "contender"?

I was just thinking that the oilers want/need two things that we have, a top pair D man and a center.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 7:21 PM ET
yeah, but are we better for it? Are they really a "contender"?

I was just thinking that the oilers want/need two things that we have, a top pair D man and a center.

- nails



I wouldn't mind trading VL and Coby to them for the right return if that's what you mean.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Jul 5 @ 7:23 PM ET
Well, honestly, I think that was Homer's plan when he went out and traded Richards and Carter.

What he didn't see coming, I bet, was for them to make the playoffs in what? A full season after those trades?

I think we just skipped the middle parts of the "rebuild"/"mini rebuild" and went right to being a borderline contender

- Giroux_Is_God

he also didn't anticipate pronger getting hurt, so maybe the idea of continuing to be competitive sooner wasn't as shocking as the way in which they were able to do it
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
I wouldn't mind trading VL and Coby to them for the right return if that's what you mean.
- moylander

it is.
But the right return isn't likely eberle as the cap help they are seeking isnt there.
but maybe Yakupov and Petry or one of the other RFA or young D men? Perron is only 26.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:37 PM ET
Anyone willing to go through a short rebuild?
- nails


Yes
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 5 @ 7:38 PM ET
Anyone willing to go through a short rebuild?
- nails


I am
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 5 @ 7:40 PM ET
I wouldn't mind trading VL and Coby to them for the right return if that's what you mean.
- moylander


The offer would have to stun me to trade Coburn at this point.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:43 PM ET
The offer would have to stun me to trade Coburn at this point.
- 77rams

yakupov and a young D-man and the take Vinny's full hit
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 5 @ 7:48 PM ET
yakupov and a young D-man and the take Vinny's full hit
- nails


I'd rather have nurse and a pick.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:49 PM ET
I'd rather have nurse and a pick.
- aflyerpower8


Vinny is not going to Edmonton & they'd be beyond dumb if they moved Nurse.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:49 PM ET
I'd rather have nurse and a pick.
- aflyerpower8

i want a forward to play with G.
Perron or Yak work for me because thee is cap savings there.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:50 PM ET
Vinny is not going to Edmonton & they'd be beyond dumb if they moved Nurse.
- ob18

never know.
Chance to be the #2C and play with what should be a high octane O.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:52 PM ET
never know.
Chance to be the #2C and play with what should be a high octane O.

- nails


I'll rephrase it, I'll say it's not happening.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 5 @ 7:52 PM ET
i want a forward to play with G.
Perron or Yak work for me because thee is cap savings there.

- nails


Don't want Nail.

(Nothing personal)
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 5 @ 7:53 PM ET
Anyone willing to go through a short rebuild?
- nails


Not me; think they need to shed a contract or two, but they already have enough pieces in the system to build upon. Just need to be patient and see if the defensemen develop

Just don't see the need to start another rebuild
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 5 @ 7:53 PM ET
Vinny is not going to Edmonton & they'd be beyond dumb if they moved Nurse.
- ob18


I wasn't saying that I thought he would just if we are picking off Edmonton's roster, I would pick Nurse over Yakupov.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:56 PM ET
I'll rephrase it, I'll say it's not happening.
- ob18

I know.
just wishing.
they did throw stupid money at Pouliot.
stupid vinny.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:56 PM ET
Don't want Nail.

(Nothing personal)

- 77rams


I came first
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 5 @ 7:57 PM ET
The offer would have to stun me to trade Coburn at this point.
- 77rams


The grass isn't always greener on the other side,and I have a bad feeling we'd find that out quickly if Coburn got moved
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 5 @ 7:57 PM ET
never know.
Chance to be the #2C and play with what should be a high octane O.

- nails


Problem is Vinny is regular unleaded.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:57 PM ET
Not me; think they need to shed a contract or two, but they already have enough pieces in the system to build upon. Just need to be patient and see if the defensemen develop

Just don't see the need to start another rebuild

- AllInForFlyers



If they could get a sniper of a forward, i would move Coburn and look at a 2-3 year retool
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:58 PM ET
Problem is Vinny is regular unleaded.
- 77rams

kerosene
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 5 @ 7:58 PM ET
The grass isn't always greener on the other side,and I have a bad feeling we'd find that out quickly if Coburn got moved
- AllInForFlyers


Find out quickly, that we just got Noah Hanifin!
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 5 @ 7:59 PM ET
I came first
- nails


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