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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 5 @ 10:01 PM ET
Love the Winter Classic sweaters. They would be a great alternate. Never cared much for the black jerseys. We won't speak of the chromed logo.
- hereticpride


i'm convinced that the person(s) responsible for the pontiac aztek also designed the early 00s chrome logo and jerseys.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 5 @ 10:06 PM ET
He's a UFA, if we can sign him for $1.5 million he'd fit under the cap using option 2 outlined this week.
- jstross

i guess as long as it's no longer than 1 year
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:08 PM ET
Question do we have to be under the cap first before we use the ltir??
- griouxmvp2012


Depends. Flyers have 2 options. Get under the cap before Season starts then put Pronger on LTIR or Put Pronger up on LTIR last day of training camp and use that money on call ups until Day one and then demote them.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:16 PM ET
i guess as long as it's no longer than 1 year
- 2Real


I think he needs a "show me" deal. 1 year and 1 year only.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:19 PM ET
Would anyone here trade G for MacKinnon
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:25 PM ET
Would anyone here trade G for MacKinnon
- PhillySportsGuy


That is a heck of a question. On paper in a second. There's a lot you can do with an extra $4/5 million and have the team peak with its young, unproven, defensive assets.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:34 PM ET
Guys I would not recommend trying to learn Tonight by Elton the beginning is (frank)ing crazy.

This'll be inneristing
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:38 PM ET
Would anyone here trade G for MacKinnon
- PhillySportsGuy



Would need MacKinnon to do it for another season or so..

To this point Giroux is an established star while MacKinnon has had 1 good season and still finished over 20 points behind Giroux.

moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:42 PM ET
Would anyone here trade G for MacKinnon
- PhillySportsGuy


good question.....

i think its a win win either way.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:43 PM ET
Would need MacKinnon to do it for another season or so..

To this point Giroux is an established star while MacKinnon has had 1 amazing season.

- opeth_pa


One more year would probably be too late
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:47 PM ET
good question.....

i think its a win win either way.

- moylander

I'd bet a good chunk of change that if Hextall calls up whoever the hell the GM of the Avs is and offers G for MacKinnon straight up, it gets declined.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:47 PM ET
One more year would probably be too late
- PhillySportsGuy


Then I wouldn't do it.

Giroux has had 2 seasons where he finished in the top 3 in scoring, 1 MVP nomination, is a proven player and a prove playoff performer.

Im not willing to trade that for 1 years potential at this point.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 5 @ 10:57 PM ET
Would need MacKinnon to do it for another season or so..

To this point Giroux is an established star while MacKinnon has had 1 good season and still finished over 20 points behind Giroux.

- opeth_pa

mackinnon had more points in his first full season compared to giroux
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:00 PM ET
I'd bet a good chunk of change that if Hextall calls up whoever the hell the GM of the Avs is and offers G for MacKinnon straight up, it gets declined.
- Giroux_Is_God



the salary differential would be the deciding factor - not talent/skill.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:00 PM ET
mackinnon had more points in his first full season compared to giroux
- 2Real



No doubt and Giroux is a proven point per game player over the past 4 seasons.
I personally would not trade that for a player that has 1 season under his belt.

The money side of things makes sense but I personally wouldn't make this trade unless you plan on tanking for the next 3-4 seasons until the D prospects hit.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 5 @ 11:07 PM ET
Would anyone here trade G for MacKinnon
- PhillySportsGuy

you are evil
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:12 PM ET
i'm convinced that the person(s) responsible for the pontiac aztek also designed the early 00s chrome logo and jerseys.
- hammarby31

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 5 @ 11:17 PM ET
you are evil
- Crimsoninja


I think it's a reasonable question
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 5 @ 11:18 PM ET
No doubt and Giroux is a proven point per game player over the past 4 seasons.
I personally would not trade that for a player that has 1 season under his belt.

The money side of things makes sense but I personally wouldn't make this trade unless you plan on tanking for the next 3-4 seasons until the D prospects hit.

- opeth_pa

the avs wouldn't even want giroux with how they're trying to build
but in a draft 1 and 2 with giroux and mackinnon you take mackinnon every single time giroux isn't as good
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:23 PM ET
the avs wouldn't even want giroux with how they're trying to build
but in a draft 1 and 2 with giroux and mackinnon you take mackinnon every single time giroux isn't as good

- 2Real



We can agree to disagree.
When Mackinnon accomplishes what Giroux has I'll agree. Until then one is a proven star and 1 is a player with great potential.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:23 PM ET
You guys see this..new Pink Floyd album?

http://consequenceofsound...endless-river-in-october/

Bet you never thought this would happen: Pink Floyd will be releasing a new album in the fall to coincide with the twentieth anniversary and deluxe reissue of their final album, The Division Bell. The new album is called The Endless River and is based on 1994 sessions with Richard Wright. The news was revealed by David Gilmour’s wife Polly Samson on Twitter, who calls it “Rick Wright’s swansong and very beautiful.”
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 5 @ 11:25 PM ET
I think it's a reasonable question
- PhillySportsGuy

therefore extremely evil
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 11:37 PM ET
You guys see this..new Pink Floyd album?

http://consequenceofsound...endless-river-in-october/

Bet you never thought this would happen: Pink Floyd will be releasing a new album in the fall to coincide with the twentieth anniversary and deluxe reissue of their final album, The Division Bell. The new album is called The Endless River and is based on 1994 sessions with Richard Wright. The news was revealed by David Gilmour’s wife Polly Samson on Twitter, who calls it “Rick Wright’s swansong and very beautiful.”

- opeth_pa

is Waters on the album? Because I'll be way less excited if he's not. All the Gilmour led 80s/90s stuff sounds the same and is meh for me.

If he's on the album, I can't wait til the fall. If he isn't in the album, I'll simply wait patiently
mmcclatchy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Asheville, NC
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jul 5 @ 11:40 PM ET
is Waters on the album? Because I'll be way less excited if he's not. All the Gilmour led 80s/90s stuff sounds the same and is meh for me.

If he's on the album, I can't wait til the fall. If he isn't in the album, I'll simply wait patiently

- Giroux_Is_God


I don't know one way or the other, but I do believe that Waters bought Pink Floyd a while ago. I'd be really surprised if he isn't on it.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:52 PM ET
I thought if you sent down a one way contract, they had to clear waivers. Or...maybe if you waived them and they cleared, they were assigned to your AHL affiliate?
- section32


"one way" and "two way" only refers to money.
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