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KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jul 9 @ 3:48 PM ET
Stralman had 1 goal in the 100 plus games he played last year lol
- TPC

When Stralman scores goal #2 this season we're gonna hear about how much better he is in Tampa than in NY, book it
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:49 PM ET
When Stralman scores goal #2 this season we're gonna hear about how much better he is in Tampa than in NY, book it
- KreiderBomb


I think in about a two month span, Stralman has gone from one of the most underrated players in the league, to one of the most overrated. I am not sure I've seen anyone else accomplish that.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:53 PM ET
I think in about a two month span, Stralman has gone from one of the most underrated players in the league, to one of the most overrated. I am not sure I've seen anyone else accomplish that.
- Pete V

I liked Stralman, he helped the Rangers down the stretch and in the playoffs. Can he sustain that over a 5 year contract? Time will tell. I agree with you, he was a fringe NHL player before coming to the Rangers. I think the system in New York played to his strengths mightily. He is a great positional player who blocks a lot of shots. The question is will his style fit in Tampa? There were times in the year where we all wanted him healthy scratched lol
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:55 PM ET
Rangers' Arbitration Dates:

-Chris Kreider: July 23
-Mats Zuccarello: July 25
-Derick Brassard: July 28

Should be fun!!!

- Pete V

I already bought front row seats to the Kreider one. If Sather says anything bad in the hearing, mayhem might commence.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 9 @ 4:00 PM ET
When Stralman scores goal #2 this season we're gonna hear about how much better he is in Tampa than in NY, book it
- KreiderBomb

I think Dan Boyle is gonna make us forget about Stralman pretty fast...just my opinion
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jul 9 @ 4:03 PM ET
I already bought front row seats to the Kreider one. If Sather says anything bad in the hearing, mayhem might commence.
- TPC

He will, that's the name of the game with arbitration, its hard not to take it personally when your a player getting slagged by your GM but that's the process.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 9 @ 4:06 PM ET
He will, that's the name of the game with arbitration, its hard not to take it personally when your a player getting slagged by your GM but that's the process.
- B2B76

Why I will be front row
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 4:07 PM ET
He will, that's the name of the game with arbitration, its hard not to take it personally when your a player getting slagged by your GM but that's the process.
- B2B76


It's not very often where you actually get to arbitration, so hopefully all these guys ended up signing something before they have to go through that process (maybe the day of).

For Kreider, you got a preview of what the organization will say through Slats' comments at the end of the year: Started the year in the minors, inconsistent, not reliable defensively, goes through prolonged stages of being invisible.

And Kreider's team will say: big game player, plays his best when the money is on the line, lightning fast and a bull in a china shop, rare combination of power, finesse, et.

Again, I hope it doesn't get there.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jul 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
Can't believe Schneider took the money from NJ, he's gonna regret that
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
Can't believe Schneider took the money from NJ, he's gonna regret that
- KreiderBomb

Not a bad deal, 6 million cap hit could look real nice in a few years.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Jul 9 @ 4:23 PM ET
I think in about a two month span, Stralman has gone from one of the most underrated players in the league, to one of the most overrated. I am not sure I've seen anyone else accomplish that.
- Pete V



It's easy, he left the Rangers and went to another team.

Fans, even analysts, around the league despise the Rangers. It is very rare, outside of this fan base, that a player gets his just credit for being a good hockey player.

Stralman, that he is on Tampa, is now looked at as one of the best signings of the summer. I wouldn't hold my breath on that notion. Wait until year three of his new deal before fans realize that he is a good player but not one to hand out guaranteed long term money to.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Jul 9 @ 4:24 PM ET
Can't believe Schneider took the money from NJ, he's gonna regret that
- KreiderBomb



Not when he sees all of those zeroes, in his paycheck, every two weeks.

Do you think most players care where they play as long as they are gainfully compensated, monetarily?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 9 @ 4:49 PM ET
Why I will be front row
- TPC


I feel a restraining order coming.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 9 @ 4:51 PM ET
Rangers' Arbitration Dates:

-Chris Kreider: July 23
-Mats Zuccarello: July 25
-Derick Brassard: July 28

Should be fun!!!

- Pete V



So Pete, or anyone else want to explain what exactly the short version of the rules for arbitration are, and what happens if its excepted or not?
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 9 @ 4:54 PM ET
So Pete, or anyone else want to explain what exactly the short version of the rules for arbitration are, and what happens if its excepted or not?
- mdw7413


It's based solely on corsi now...If your top 100 in the leauge the AAV is 6 mill...middle 300 it's 3 mill...301 and under you get a bag if peanuts and an Evian bottle of water

This btw was a hanging curveball for me couldn't resist
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 4:59 PM ET
So Pete, or anyone else want to explain what exactly the short version of the rules for arbitration are, and what happens if its excepted or not?
- mdw7413


Here is the way I understand it, if you get to arbitration, the arbitrators will set a number on the player on a one year deal (to be honest, I still don't know why Kreider is arbitration eligible, but I haven't take the time to understand). Once that number is set, its binding, unless the team decides to walk away (like the Rangers did with Zherdev years back). If the team walks away, the player becomes a UFA.

For Zucc and Brass, they would become Unrestricted Free Agents after next year, so there would be some obvious motivation for the Rangers to get them locked up before arbitration, rather than just accepting a one year number from the arbitrator, and having no recourse next year.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 4:59 PM ET
It's based solely on corsi now...If your top 100 in the leauge the AAV is 6 mill...middle 300 it's 3 mill...301 and under you get a bag if peanuts and an Evian bottle of water

This btw was a hanging curveball for me couldn't resist

- Slimtj100


I think someone needs to start working on advanced stats metrix for hockey buzz posters.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 9 @ 5:02 PM ET
Here is the way I understand it, if you get to arbitration, the arbitrators will set a number on the player on a one year deal (to be honest, I still don't know why Kreider is arbitration eligible, but I haven't take the time to understand). Once that number is set, its binding, unless the team decides to walk away (like the Rangers did with Zherdev years back). If the team walks away, the player becomes a UFA.

For Zucc and Brass, they would become Unrestricted Free Agents after next year, so there would be some obvious motivation for the Rangers to get them locked up before arbitration, rather than just accepting a one year number from the arbitrator, and having no recourse next year.

- Pete V


The main positive is no offer sheets right?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 9 @ 5:04 PM ET
It's based solely on corsi now...If your top 100 in the leauge the AAV is 6 mill...middle 300 it's 3 mill...301 and under you get a bag if peanuts and an Evian bottle of water

This btw was a hanging curveball for me couldn't resist

- Slimtj100



Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 5:05 PM ET
The main positive is no offer sheets right?
- Slimtj100


Yes, you are offer sheet proof, once the player elects to go to arbitration. Also, short of the team rejecting the award (which isn't going to happen with any of the Rangers next year), the players are pretty much locked into your roster after the hearings, which means no trading camp holdouts, with the exception of John Moore.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 9 @ 5:05 PM ET
Here is the way I understand it, if you get to arbitration, the arbitrators will set a number on the player on a one year deal (to be honest, I still don't know why Kreider is arbitration eligible, but I haven't take the time to understand). Once that number is set, its binding, unless the team decides to walk away (like the Rangers did with Zherdev years back). If the team walks away, the player becomes a UFA.

For Zucc and Brass, they would become Unrestricted Free Agents after next year, so there would be some obvious motivation for the Rangers to get them locked up before arbitration, rather than just accepting a one year number from the arbitrator, and having no recourse next year.

- Pete V



Ok, thanks Pete. I looked it up, and it read like the dead sea scrolls. Your version is easier.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 9 @ 5:06 PM ET
Ok, thanks Pete. I looked it up, and it read like the dead sea scrolls. Your version is easier.
- mdw7413


Pete is like the dos Equis guy
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 9 @ 5:15 PM ET
Pete is like the dos Equis guy
- Slimtj100




I see him like this behind his keyboard.

evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: AKA Nick, I wrote a song about Facebook Stalkin'
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 9 @ 5:15 PM ET
It's based solely on corsi now...If your top 100 in the leauge the AAV is 6 mill...middle 300 it's 3 mill...301 and under you get a bag if peanuts and an Evian bottle of water

This btw was a hanging curveball for me couldn't resist

- Slimtj100

evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: AKA Nick, I wrote a song about Facebook Stalkin'
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 9 @ 5:16 PM ET


I see him like this behind his keyboard.


- mdw7413


Now he needs to make this image his avatar! FINALLY PETE V with an avatar!
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