tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Even assuming that the Rangers wouldn't have the worst center ice core in the league if they made that trade, let's take a look at the numbers.
Stepan in 294 games, has 73 Goals, 124 Assists, 197 Points, and is a whopping +59 on a team that doesn't score much. His average point total over a 82 game season is 54.9.
Hagelin in 184 games, has 41 Goals, 54 Assists, 95 points, and is a +8. His average point total over a 82 game season is 42.3.
Kane in 324 games, has 99 Goals, 101 Assists, 200 points, and is a -9. His average point total over a 82 game season is 50.6, over 4 points worse that Stepan.
The reality is this. Kane has a name and a pedigree. He is an explosive player, sometimes, but he is not only less productive offensively than Derek Stepan, but has no where near the overall game that Stepan does. Couple that with the fact that both Stepan and Hagelin are model citizens, can both kill penalties, have winning pedigrees, and Kane is a self entitled malcontent, and that literally could be the worst trade the Rangers have ever made (or at least close to it). - Pete V
I say make it. Then Trade the farm for one of Staal or Thornton. |
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KreiderBomb
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Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo Joined: 06.02.2014
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I see there is more Evander Kane drama. Would a Stepan/Hags package get a deal done? If anyone wanted him, that is...
- mames11
Speaking of Winnipeg, what's the status on Burmistrov and what would it take to get his rights? |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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I say make it. Then Trade the farm for one of Staal or Thornton. - tomburton99
Wiseguy. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Wiseguy. - B2B76
It could work. Rangers would need to sign Ribeiro too though, Center ice spots gets thin when you deal Step + for E.Kane and Brass + for E.Staal.
FORWARDS
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Eric Staal ($8.250m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Evander Kane ($5.250m) / Mike Ribeiro ($2.500m) / Anthony Duclair ($0.773m)
Chris Bourque ($0.600m) / Oscar Lindberg ($0.675m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m)
Tanner Glass ($1.450m) / Dominic Moore ($1.500m) / Jesper Fast ($0.805m)
Chris Mueller ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Girardi ($5.500m) / Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m)
Dan Boyle ($4.500m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Kevin Klein ($2.900m) / Mike Kostka ($0.650m)
Matt Hunwick ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,609,167; BONUSES: $651,667
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $390,833
Stepan and Hags for E.kane
Brass, J.Moore, Buchnevich, both 2nd's in 2015.
Rangers would also have to trade Kredier and Zuccs for prospects or pick. not enough money to go around. |
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Slimtj100
New York Rangers |
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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It could work. Rangers would need to sign Ribeiro too though, Center ice spots gets thin when you deal Step + for E.Kane and Brass + for E.Staal.
FORWARDS
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Eric Staal ($8.250m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Evander Kane ($5.250m) / Mike Ribeiro ($2.500m) / Anthony Duclair ($0.773m)
Chris Bourque ($0.600m) / Oscar Lindberg ($0.675m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m)
Tanner Glass ($1.450m) / Dominic Moore ($1.500m) / Jesper Fast ($0.805m)
Chris Mueller ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Girardi ($5.500m) / Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m)
Dan Boyle ($4.500m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Kevin Klein ($2.900m) / Mike Kostka ($0.650m)
Matt Hunwick ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,609,167; BONUSES: $651,667
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $390,833
Stepan and Hags for E.kane
Brass, J.Moore, Buchnevich, both 2nd's in 2015. - tomburton99
I see we've made you crazy
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Agree & totally agree. Kane is overrated. - B2B76
I feel the same about Kane |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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I see we've made you crazy
- Slimtj100
It could work. Would be anoher roster overhual and some young, fan favorites would have to go. but it could work. |
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KreiderBomb
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo Joined: 06.02.2014
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It could work. Rangers would need to sign Ribeiro too though, Center ice spots gets thin when you deal Step + for E.Kane and Brass + for E.Staal.
FORWARDS
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Eric Staal ($8.250m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Evander Kane ($5.250m) / Mike Ribeiro ($2.500m) / Anthony Duclair ($0.773m)
Chris Bourque ($0.600m) / Oscar Lindberg ($0.675m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m)
Tanner Glass ($1.450m) / Dominic Moore ($1.500m) / Jesper Fast ($0.805m)
Chris Mueller ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Girardi ($5.500m) / Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m)
Dan Boyle ($4.500m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Kevin Klein ($2.900m) / Mike Kostka ($0.650m)
Matt Hunwick ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,609,167; BONUSES: $651,667
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $390,833
Stepan and Hags for E.kane
Brass, J.Moore, Buchnevich, both 2nd's in 2015.
Rangers would also have to trade Kredier and Zuccs for prospects or pick. not enough money to go around. - tomburton99
I can't believe the effort you put into this
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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I can't believe the effort you put into this - KreiderBomb
Tom's a lunatic |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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I feel the same about Kane - Slimtj100
I feel like Pete said, he's a name, but when you look at the numbers, they're really not that impressive & then you throw in that he's clearly got a wild side, iDK. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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I can't believe the effort you put into this - KreiderBomb
It's actually not that much work. Capgeek makes it pretty easy. Mames gave the Kane trade, the money is almost even. The Canes probably wouldn't eat any of Staal's cap hit. That team is and will always be a budget team. So the Rangers would to eat that themselves. But Nash and Staal together make 16+ million. Not enough money to around for Kreider and Zuccs. |
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mdw7413
New York Rangers |
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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It's actually not that much work. Capgeek makes it pretty easy. Mames gave the Kane trade, the money is almost even. The Canes probably wouldn't eat any of Staal's cap hit. That team is and will always be a budget team. So the Rangers would to eat that themselves. But Nash and Staal together make 16+ million. Not enough money to around for Kreider and Zuccs. - tomburton99
No Kreider... |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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No Kreider... - mdw7413
Unless Kreider becomes a play making 2nd line center, he has to be traded along with Zuccs. No enough dough for all the bakers. |
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Slimtj100
New York Rangers |
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Unless Kreider becomes a play making 2nd line center, he has to be traded along with Zuccs. No enough dough for all the bakers. - tomburton99
Kreider for Horcoff..thoughts? |
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mdw7413
New York Rangers |
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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Unless Kreider becomes a play making 2nd line center, he has to be traded along with Zuccs. No enough dough for all the bakers. - tomburton99
TPC is gonna be pissed.
If all that happened, I couldn't imagine being a fan next year. That would be disastrous. |
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KreiderBomb
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo Joined: 06.02.2014
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TPC is gonna be pissed.
If all that happened, I couldn't imagine being a fan next year. That would be disastrous. - mdw7413
Quick cover it with a blanket, someone distract him!! |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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TPC is gonna be pissed.
If all that happened, I couldn't imagine being a fan next year. That would be disastrous. - mdw7413
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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In all seriousness, this rumor guy I always see says Carter to NYR for 1 yr 800k...hope he's actually right about this one |
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mdw7413
New York Rangers |
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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Quick cover it with a blanket, someone distract him!! - KreiderBomb
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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In all seriousness, this rumor guy I always see says Carter to NYR for 1 yr 800k...hope he's actually right about this one - Slimtj100
Yeah, that would actually be something I could sign up for. He's a real good 4th liner. |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Yeah, that would actually be something I could sign up for. He's a real good 4th liner. - mdw7413
I'd go so far as to say our 4th line of Carter-Moore-Glass would be better..certainly more intimidating which is an aspect our team lacks year after year. Bigger and tougher with more hitting would be lovely |
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Slimtj100
New York Rangers |
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Could the internal plan be to put Moore at number 3 center? If you think about it he's like a rabid dog out there so he could be capable of getting pucks and put St Louis and miller with him...
Hags-Stepan-Nash
Kreider-Brassard-Zucc
Miller-Moore-St Louis
Glass-Carter-Fast
This isn't awful..and look I didn't trade for staal either |
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mdw7413
New York Rangers |
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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Could the internal plan be to put Moore at number 3 center? If you think about it he's like a rabid dog out there so he could be capable of getting pucks and put St Louis and miller with him...
Hags-Stepan-Nash
Kreider-Brassard-Zucc
Miller-Moore-St Louis
Glass-Carter-Fast
This isn't awful..and look I didn't trade for staal either - Slimtj100
I would probably move MSL up to the 1st and put Hagelin down with Moore & Miller. |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Not funny fellas, not funny at all |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Wow Kane and Towes both have 10.5 million cap hits for the next 8 years |
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