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LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 1:55 PM ET
Love or hate franson, it's hard to say 'he makes mistakes etc.' when his agent can say:

Led team in D scoring 2 years running; had great playoffs; top 5 in D hits; 6'5 and in his prime; use comparables of D men getting disgusting deals.

point is on paper franson looks great and these arbitrators aren't always hockey minds

- clark_griswold

Cannot compare other players UFA contracts in arbitration.
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jul 4 @ 1:55 PM ET
If franson gets 2.45 I will poop where I sit.
- Bigzby


mirtle is a maroon if i've ever seen one
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:55 PM ET
Love or hate franson, it's hard to say 'he makes mistakes etc.' when his agent can say:

Led team in D scoring 2 years running; had great playoffs; top 5 in D hits; 6'5 and in his prime; use comparables of D men getting disgusting deals.

point is on paper franson looks great and these arbitrators aren't always hockey minds

- clark_griswold


I lead my men's league in scoring, but we're totally poop.

Nothing to be proud of.
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jul 4 @ 1:55 PM ET
Cannot compare other players UFA contracts in arbitration.
- LeafMan


alright well use all the other points i brought up. He's getting more than 3 and possibly north of 4
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jul 4 @ 1:56 PM ET
If franson gets 2.45 I will poop where I sit.
- Bigzby

use pecafanfan's thesaurus to wipe it up...then play us the soundtrack to deliverence
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 1:56 PM ET
Roids?

NHL.com has him at 180lbs.

- Garnie


They dont update it. He put on 9 lbs alone during the course of the season. Been working out hard.

Just like Nurse listed at 185 but he said in his interview last week he's at 205 now.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 1:57 PM ET
alright well use all the other points i brought up. He's getting more than 3 and possibly north of 4
- clark_griswold

The evidence that can be used in arbitration cases:
The player's "overall performance" including statistics in all previous seasons.
Injuries, illnesses and the number of games played.
The player's length of service with the team and in the NHL.
The player's "overall contribution" to the team's success or failure.
The player's "special qualities of leadership or public appeal."
The performance and salary of any player alleged to be "comparable" to the player in the dispute.

Evidence that is not admissible:
The salary and performance of a "comparable" player who signed a contract as an unrestricted free agent.
Testimonials, video and media reports.
The financial state of the team.
The salary cap and the state of the team's payroll.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 4 @ 1:57 PM ET
They dont update it. He put on 9 lbs alone during the course of the season. Been working out hard.
- Iggysbff



Without drugs, you can only put on between 7 - 10 lbs of lean muscle mass per year.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:57 PM ET
If franson gets 2.45 I will poop where I sit.
- Bigzby



he made $2m...wouldn't be a long shot.

Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:57 PM ET
They dont update it. He put on 9 lbs alone during the course of the season. Been working out hard.
- Iggysbff


Nylander looks like The Rock and Bruce Willis tough beside RNH.
MapleLeafsFTW
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jul 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
some of you guys (oops)

I like Franson...except his speed was horrendous last year.

( and I think he had some bad luck )

- Garnie


He did have a bad year last year. So did most of our D but that's another point.
He led the team in hits, and has a great shot, as well as being 6 5. I don't want to lose that, although all of that is worth very little if he can't actually defend.
But that said, I still have confidence in him.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
The evidence that can be used in arbitration cases:
The player's "overall performance" including statistics in all previous seasons.
Injuries, illnesses and the number of games played.
The player's length of service with the team and in the NHL.
The player's "overall contribution" to the team's success or failure.
The player's "special qualities of leadership or public appeal."
The performance and salary of any player alleged to be "comparable" to the player in the dispute.

Evidence that is not admissible:
The salary and performance of a "comparable" player who signed a contract as an unrestricted free agent.
Testimonials, video and media reports.
The financial state of the team.
The salary cap and the state of the team's payroll.

- LeafMan


I think they can use HB posts
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
Without drugs, you can only put on between 7 - 10 lbs of lean muscle mass per year.
- bixll


Katz owns a pharmaceutical giant company....
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
he made $2m...wouldn't be a long shot.
- Garnie

25% increase is still pretty good I suppose. Is take it at my job lol
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
The evidence that can be used in arbitration cases:
The player's "overall performance" including statistics in all previous seasons.
Injuries, illnesses and the number of games played.
The player's length of service with the team and in the NHL.
The player's "overall contribution" to the team's success or failure.
The player's "special qualities of leadership or public appeal."
The performance and salary of any player alleged to be "comparable" to the player in the dispute.

Evidence that is not admissible:
The salary and performance of a "comparable" player who signed a contract as an unrestricted free agent.
Testimonials, video and media reports.
The financial state of the team.
The salary cap and the state of the team's payroll.

- LeafMan

how are the bolded compatible with each other?
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
If franson gets 2.45 I will poop where I sit.
- Bigzby

Get out your cleaning supplies
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jul 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
The evidence that can be used in arbitration cases:
The player's "overall performance" including statistics in all previous seasons.
Injuries, illnesses and the number of games played.
The player's length of service with the team and in the NHL.
The player's "overall contribution" to the team's success or failure.
The player's "special qualities of leadership or public appeal."
The performance and salary of any player alleged to be "comparable" to the player in the dispute.

Evidence that is not admissible:
The salary and performance of a "comparable" player who signed a contract as an unrestricted free agent.
Testimonials, video and media reports.
The financial state of the team.
The salary cap and the state of the team's payroll.

- LeafMan


i'd say this all favor's franson. never hurt, good stats in season and playoffs. No video for glaring errors.....i'd say it's in his favor but just me
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
Katz owns a pharmaceutical giant company....
- Iggysbff



I am just sayin.. without help, shall I say.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
Katz owns a pharmaceutical giant company....
- Iggysbff



He should use something on his (frank)ing grand kid
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
Without drugs, you can only put on between 7 - 10 lbs of lean muscle mass per year.
- bixll


I think I left that in the turlet this morning
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
Nylander looks like The Rock and Bruce Willis tough beside RNH.
- Bigzby

You wish
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
Get out your cleaning supplies
- MTL1

He's always sitting on the toilet so it's no big deal.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
I did not realize how strapped we are for cap space, much to my dismay, looks like Franson is the odd man out, who can we trade him for ?

I seen some Reimer + Franson for Bogosian ideas, but that probably would not work out cap wise and I don't know if Winnipeg would be interested or not.

I think Bieksa would be a very good addition, but I don't think that's a real plausible cap move either.

Any ideas?

- MapleLeafsFTW


We're not strapped. Augello's wrong.
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 2:00 PM ET
Get out your cleaning supplies
- MTL1


I meant it's too low.
MapleLeafsFTW
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:00 PM ET
I lead my men's league in scoring, but we're totally poop.

Nothing to be proud of.

- Bigzby


Your mens league team is not the NHL, he was the best OFD production wise on a team which is supposedly bursting from the seams with OFD.

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