its what they made last year on their current contracts I believe.

that is what it takes to qualify them.
- Adam_The_Golf

not true.. reimer was qualified for 1.6 million i believe.. he made 1.8 last year

he lead leafs d-men in scoring

that will be enough for him to get at least half of captain caveman's contract
- Dozzer

I made a mistake, didn't proof read it, I meant to say he will get just under 3.5 and the Leafs will be stuck with him that is why it is best to trade him out of here.

I'm looking for them.
- LeafMan

Capgeek has it
Franson QO is 2
He won't accept that

I made a mistake, didn't proof read it, I meant to say he will get just under 3.5 and the Leafs will be stuck with him that is why it is best to trade him out of here.
- LeafMan

(frank) i hope nonis moves him

he lead leafs d-men in scoring

that will be enough for him to get at least half of captain caveman's contract
- Dozzer

so everybody is crossing their fingers and hoping for 3.6?

(frank) i hope nonis moves him
- Dozzer

he's your favorite D..stop pretending other wise

so everybody is crossing their fingers and hoping for 3.6?
- Garnie

yeah.. pretty much

so everybody is crossing their fingers and hoping for 3.6?
- Garnie

honestly, if the leafs can't move him by arbitration, they should make him look as good as possible, so he gets enough for them to walk away.

I did not realize how strapped we are for cap space, much to my dismay, looks like Franson is the odd man out, who can we trade him for ?

I seen some Reimer + Franson for Bogosian ideas, but that probably would not work out cap wise and I don't know if Winnipeg would be interested or not.

I think Bieksa would be a very good addition, but I don't think that's a real plausible cap move either.

Any ideas?

Walk-Away Rights

If a player elects arbitration, the club may actually choose to walk away from the award and make the player an unrestricted free agent under certain circumstances. For one, the arbitration award has to be $3.5M per year or more.
- LeafMan

That number is scaled though with the increase in cap. I dont know exactly what the number will be with the cap increase but it will be in the 3.75 range.

Capgeek has it
Franson a QO is 2
He won't accept that
- MTL1

FWIW - here is Mirtle's line up. He has Franson at $2.45, Gardiner at $2.8 and Reimer at $2.25. That leave $4 or so left.

not true.. reimer was qualified for 1.6 million i believe.. he made 1.8 last year
- Dozzer

1.6 salary last year .....1.8 was just his cap hit. Q.O.'s have to match salary.

tell that to Bolland , and Stastny and all the other countless UFA`s who went where the money was, there is very few left who put winning above the all might dollar
- Adam_The_Golf

That has nothing to do with what i said.

It just shows how little he was hitting the weight room. The kids have to, if they want to be able to compete without getting hurt at this level. Look at RNH shoulder issues.
- bixll

RNH's shoulder was not injured in the NHL. He had a pre-existing shoulder injury from Junior. Its fixed and he is bulking up like crazy. He's already at 195 and will come into camp around 200lbs.

It also does not look like we have any contract relief in the next few years, are only hope is for the cap to go up or for us to move a big contract. I understand the Lupul trade talk now, we could probably get a half decent return and it could help our cap situation.

I did not realize how strapped we are for cap space, much to my dismay, looks like Franson is the odd man out, who can we trade him for ?

I seen some Reimer + Franson for Bogosian ideas, but that probably would not work out cap wise and I don't know if Winnipeg would be interested or not.

I think Bieksa would be a very good addition, but I don't think that's a real plausible cap move either.

Any ideas?
- MapleLeafsFTW

I'm pretty sure most of the teams GM's read HB and have seen you guys poopting on Franson for a while....I doubt anybody would ever want him

Love or hate franson, it's hard to say 'he makes mistakes etc.' when his agent can say:

Led team in D scoring 2 years running; had great playoffs; top 5 in D hits; 6'5 and in his prime; use comparables of D men getting disgusting deals.

point is on paper franson looks great and these arbitrators aren't always hockey minds

RNH's shoulder was not injured in the NHL. He had a pre-existing shoulder injury from Junior. Its fixed and he is bulking up like crazy. He's already at 195 and will come into camp around 200lbs.
- Iggysbff

Roids?

NHL.com has him at 180lbs.

RNH's shoulder was not injured in the NHL. He had a pre-existing shoulder injury from Junior. Its fixed and he is bulking up like crazy. He's already at 195 and will come into camp around 200lbs.
- Iggysbff

Did he not miss the start of the season last year like a good month.

I'm pretty sure most of the teams GM's read HB and have seen you guys poopting on Franson for a while....I doubt anybody would ever want him

- Garnie

"you guys"?

I really like Franson and would prefer to keep him.

RNH's shoulder was not injured in the NHL. He had a pre-existing shoulder injury from Junior. Its fixed and he is bulking up like crazy. He's already at 195 and will come into camp around 200lbs.
- Iggysbff

I rest my case..

Capgeek has it
Franson QO is 2
He won't accept that
- MTL1

The QO is just the team's starting point in negotiations.

FWIW - here is Mirtle's line up. He has Franson at $2.45, Gardiner at $2.8 and Reimer at $2.25. That leave $4 or so left.
- Canada Cup

If franson gets 2.45 I will poop where I sit.

What do you guys think of Chris Butler? Is he worth looking at for bottom pairing?

"you guys"?

I really like Franson and would prefer to keep him.
- MapleLeafsFTW

some of you guys (oops)

I like Franson...except his speed was horrendous last year.

( and I think he had some bad luck )