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The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Jul 5 @ 11:21 AM ET
I'm hoping for a line up like this and actually roll a fourth line out there regularly.

VanRiemsdyk-Bozak-Kessel
?????-Kadri-Lupul
Komarov-Kontiola-Clarkson
Santorelli-Holland-Frattin
Bodie-Orr

I still think we need another top 6 winger tho

- MLeafs81


Penner?
MLeafs81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sundin, Sakic, Nolan, Kamensky, ect that's a comparable group toHall, Ebs, Nuge and Yak-Jeropotato, ON
Joined: 07.16.2012

Jul 5 @ 11:24 AM ET
Penner?
- The Shrike


I wouldn't mind that at all. Get him cheap too. Plenty of playoff experience too except for last year
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:28 AM ET
No Holland or Ashton? I see both of those guys in the mix:


JVR Bozak Kessel
Lupul Kadri Santorelli
Komarov Kontiola Clarkson
Ashton Holland Frattin
Bodie Orr

- gravyface


I don't get it, people on here complain & say Frattin isn't a 2nd Line W , but put Santorelli up there? Not hating him, but why not put someone like Frattin on the 2nd line who already HAS chemistry with Lupul - Kadri ?
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:28 AM ET
Penner?
- The Shrike


would be a sweet addition, should be cheap too.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Jul 5 @ 11:29 AM ET
I wouldn't mind that at all. Get him cheap too. Plenty of playoff experience too except for last year
- MLeafs81


Good stats too:

Of UFA forwards still available:

Points = 4th with 35
CF% rel = 5th with +3.0%
5v5 P/60 = 4th with 1.66
QoC TOI% = 3rd with 29.2%
MLeafs81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sundin, Sakic, Nolan, Kamensky, ect that's a comparable group toHall, Ebs, Nuge and Yak-Jeropotato, ON
Joined: 07.16.2012

Jul 5 @ 11:31 AM ET
I don't get it, people on here complain & say Frattin isn't a 2nd Line W , but put Santorelli up there? Not hating him, but why not put someone like Frattin on the 2nd line who already HAS chemistry with Lupul - Kadri ?
- MCharisma91


I'd rather keep both Frattin and Santorelli down in the line up and find an actual top six winger to play with Kadri and Lupul.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 11:31 AM ET
I'm still not sold on Holland as a bottom 6 guy.

He strikes me as a guy who is most effective in the top 6, yet isn't good enough to crack the top 6 of an NHL club.

- The Shrike


I agree. Watching the Marlies in the playoffs it was apparent he is an excellent AHL top six player.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:34 AM ET
I'd rather keep both Frattin and Santorelli down in the line up and find an actual top six winger to play with Kadri and Lupul.
- MLeafs81


there really isn't one on the FA market right now though...

I'd love to get Evander Kane out of WPG, I don't care about his attitude, this isn't high school. He's young and cocky, who cares? So is Kadri, Subban, etc.. his attitude can be fixed, it's about the skill.

Kane's got some great skill, and nice size, and isn't afraid to drop the gloves, and lay a nice check, I'd love to have him as my 2nd line winger.

What would it cost though? Think his value dropped? Wonder if Lupul, Franson, Reimer would get it done? or something involving those 3 players.

fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 11:34 AM ET
What are we doing with our goaltending?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:35 AM ET
I don't get it, people on here complain & say Frattin isn't a 2nd Line W , but put Santorelli up there? Not hating him, but why not put someone like Frattin on the 2nd line who already HAS chemistry with Lupul - Kadri ?
- MCharisma91

I wouldn't worry too much about this on a gorgeous July morning.

Injuries will force guys up and down the lineup all year.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:36 AM ET
Penner?
- The Shrike

Heatley?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:38 AM ET
What are we doing with our goaltending?
- fifty__missions

Complaining about it.
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:38 AM ET
I wouldn't worry too much about this on a gorgeous July morning.

Injuries will force guys up and down the lineup all year.

- Atomic Wedgie


people going crazy like the season starts tomorrow lol
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 11:40 AM ET
Complaining about it.
- Atomic Wedgie


Any way Reimer returns to this team? We don't have another option for a backup at this point...
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:41 AM ET
people going crazy like the season starts tomorrow lol
- matt1337


If you're talking about me, you're wrong lol. I'm the very few waiting it out. If the season started today, I'd be OKAY with the roster. Better than last years. I'm waiting to see how the rest of the off season plays out because it's very early.

Still believe Nonis makes a couple trades to fill our needs on the back end, possibly getting another dman (that can play with Phaneuf), getting rid of Franson, and possibly packaging Lupul (I don't hate him), for a 2nd line wing to replace him, because let's be honest, he's broken down, getting old, making too much $.

But yeah, I'm patient and waiting.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:41 AM ET
I don't get it, people on here complain & say Frattin isn't a 2nd Line W , but put Santorelli up there? Not hating him, but why not put someone like Frattin on the 2nd line who already HAS chemistry with Lupul - Kadri ?
- MCharisma91

It's not the only thing you don't get.
Their chemistry was for half a half season.
Because most of the leafs forwards are3rd/4th liners, I'm sure guys will okay all over the place and out of position, like the 2nd line for a 7pt player last year
MLeafs81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sundin, Sakic, Nolan, Kamensky, ect that's a comparable group toHall, Ebs, Nuge and Yak-Jeropotato, ON
Joined: 07.16.2012

Jul 5 @ 11:42 AM ET
there really isn't one on the FA market right now though...

I'd love to get Evander Kane out of WPG, I don't care about his attitude, this isn't high school. He's young and cocky, who cares? So is Kadri, Subban, etc.. his attitude can be fixed, it's about the skill.

Kane's got some great skill, and nice size, and isn't afraid to drop the gloves, and lay a nice check, I'd love to have him as my 2nd line winger.

What would it cost though? Think his value dropped? Wonder if Lupul, Franson, Reimer would get it done? or something involving those 3 players.

- MCharisma91


Hes exactly what were missing in our top six but I think the price to get him would be way too high. I think something like Franson, Reimer plus our 2015 first round pick might get it done, but I wouldn't be comfortable giving up our first rounder next year
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:43 AM ET
If you're talking about me, you're wrong lol. I'm the very few waiting it out. If the season started today, I'd be OKAY with the roster. Better than last years. I'm waiting to see how the rest of the off season plays out because it's very early.

Still believe Nonis makes a couple trades to fill our needs on the back end, possibly getting another dman (that can play with Phaneuf), getting rid of Franson, and possibly packaging Lupul (I don't hate him), for a 2nd line wing to replace him, because let's be honest, he's broken down, getting old, making too much $.

But yeah, I'm patient and waiting.

- MCharisma91

Lupul is our secondary scoring.
Fack
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 11:43 AM ET
Just want you guys to know you've all talked me back off the ledge. You've actually got me thinking more positively about next season. I was away with the family for UFA day and came back a couple days later and I was like WTF. But reading the comments re. building some internal competition make sense now. Hopefully it translates to a more consistent style on the ice.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:43 AM ET
It's not the only thing you don't get.
Their chemistry was for half a half season.
Because most of the leafs forwards are3rd/4th liners, I'm sure guys will okay all over the place and out of position, like the 2nd line for a 7pt player last year

- Fakepartofme


you don't need to keep telling me how much you (frank)ing hate Frattin with Kadri, I'm sick of it. Give it a shot, if it doesn't work out again, who gives a (frank). Move along.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:43 AM ET
Hes exactly what were missing in our top six but I think the price to get him would be way too high. I think something like Franson, Reimer plus our 2015 first round pick might get it done, but I wouldn't be comfortable giving up our first rounder next year
- MLeafs81

Winnipeg doesn't need another goalie
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:44 AM ET
Lupul is our secondary scoring.
Fack

- Fakepartofme


for what, half the (frank)ing season?? Why not replace him with someone who doesn't get injured by lacing up his skates.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:44 AM ET
you don't need to keep telling me how much you (frank)ing hate Frattin with Kadri, I'm sick of it. Give it a shot, if it doesn't work out again, who gives a (frank). Move along.
- MCharisma91

I never said I hated it, I like frattin, he's just not a second liner, but like I said kid, I'm sure he'll see time there
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:45 AM ET
I never said I hated it, I like frattin, he's just not a second liner, but like I said kid, I'm sure he'll see time there
- Fakepartofme


lol "kid"

get the (frank) out of here ya scrub.

I'm praying for him to succeed with Kadri AGAIN, just to see the look on your stupid ass face.
MLeafs81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sundin, Sakic, Nolan, Kamensky, ect that's a comparable group toHall, Ebs, Nuge and Yak-Jeropotato, ON
Joined: 07.16.2012

Jul 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
Winnipeg doesn't need another goalie
- Fakepartofme


I'm not high on Pavelic at all. IMO Reimers the better goalie out of the two. I know some will disagree
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