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1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:41 PM ET
Absolute steal.



I don't know.

- Bigzby


At least we can have fun with his name.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 4 @ 2:42 PM ET
some players garner serious hate on here. Franson isn't perfect, but come on, top 5 in hits, great playoffs, as bad as he was defensively he still gets points. Last year a nightmare.

But do you honestly think he can never turn it around? i remember tons of ppl on here claiming he could replace Dion's minutes. That was hillarious, but i still think franson has tools. People on here want del zotto. Are you kidding me? Not much younger, all offense, terrible D and not a right shot/6'5/decent hitter.

Just my 2 cents

- clark_griswold


Del Zotto would look even worse here. He's a guy I think a team will take later on in the summer if he wants to play. he's a bit of a project for any team to pick him up. Leafs don't need a project.

As for Franson I was not one who thought he would replace Dion's minutes. I do remember though that everyone wanted to trade Dion as Franson was for sure his better replacement.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:42 PM ET
done deal. Throw in Reimer just for goodwill
- clark_griswold


there we go, now your stock is rising!
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 4 @ 2:42 PM ET
some players garner serious hate on here. Franson isn't perfect, but come on, top 5 in hits, great playoffs, as bad as he was defensively he still gets points. Last year a nightmare.

But do you honestly think he can never turn it around? i remember tons of ppl on here claiming he could replace Dion's minutes. That was hillarious, but i still think franson has tools. People on here want del zotto. Are you kidding me? Not much younger, all offense, terrible D and not a right shot/6'5/decent hitter.

Just my 2 cents

- clark_griswold

Franson has his role: bottom pairing(paired with a strong defensive guy), 2nd pp howitzer.

Anything more, his terrible skating is exposed, and better PKers can force him to cough up the puck at the point just by looking at him funny.
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jul 4 @ 2:42 PM ET
The 29-year-old Kontiola agreed to a $1.1 Million contract, Jay McClement signed for 1 million
- ThePresident


we're not allowed to be negative...but that is a disgrace. Say what you want about mcclemant, but that makes zero sense.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:43 PM ET
some players garner serious hate on here. Franson isn't perfect, but come on, top 5 in hits, great playoffs, as bad as he was defensively he still gets points. Last year a nightmare.

But do you honestly think he can never turn it around? i remember tons of ppl on here claiming he could replace Dion's minutes. That was hillarious, but i still think franson has tools. People on here want del zotto. Are you kidding me? Not much younger, all offense, terrible D and not a right shot/6'5/decent hitter.

Just my 2 cents

- clark_griswold


franson is a slow skating offensive d-man.. has a snap shot and thats it

the reson he heas so many hits is because he gives the puck away so absurdly much that he hits the guy right after him.. its more of a grazing as the guy skates by him but i guess thats a hit at the ACC

hits are counted different in each arena.. its not a good stat to go by.

a defenseman who cannot play defense is no use at all.
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jul 4 @ 2:43 PM ET
Franson has his role: bottom pairing(paired with a strong defensive guy), 2nd pp howitzer.

Anything more, his terrible skating is exposed, and better PKers can force him to cough up the puck at the point just by looking at him funny.

- Feeling Glucky?


i think could/should be 1st PP to give dion a rest...plus Dion can't hit the net.

and what you described is MDZ with zero hitting.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:43 PM ET
franson is a slow skating offensive d-man.. has a snap shot and thats it

the reson he heas so many hits is because he gives the puck away so absurdly much that he hits the guy right after him.. its more of a grazing as the guy skates by him but i guess thats a hit at the ACC

hits are counted different in each arena.. its not a good stat to go by.

a defenseman who cannot play defense is no use at all.

- Dozzer


Amen.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:44 PM ET
franson is a slow skating offensive d-man.. has a snap shot and thats it

the reson he heas so many hits is because he gives the puck away so absurdly much that he hits the guy right after him.. its more of a grazing as the guy skates by him but i guess thats a hit at the ACC

hits are counted different in each arena.. its not a good stat to go by.

a defenseman who cannot play defense is no use at all.

- Dozzer


i wish he was a UFA so we didnt even have to think about him.

at least maybe all this agnoy we will get a pick or prospect...one can hope.
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jul 4 @ 2:44 PM ET
franson is a slow skating offensive d-man.. has a snap shot and thats it

the reson he heas so many hits is because he gives the puck away so absurdly much that he hits the guy right after him.. its more of a grazing as the guy skates by him but i guess thats a hit at the ACC

hits are counted different in each arena.. its not a good stat to go by.

a defenseman who cannot play defense is no use at all.

- Dozzer


would you take MDZ over him? And have you seeen MDZ play in tough situations ie: playoffs?
mcleafs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jul 4 @ 2:44 PM ET
Defensive play:

Gardiner > Franson

No more needs to be said.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:44 PM ET
People keep saying he's a great hitter but I can't think of him rocking anyone.
- Bigzby


he coughs up the puck and grazes the guy as he skates by

the ACC is very generous with their hit counts

toronto finished third overall

in the playoffs.. thats how generous the ACC is with ht count
Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D...
Joined: 08.07.2013

Jul 4 @ 2:44 PM ET
Meh, Leafs have space.
- Feeling Glucky?

Yeah, I have beer.

I could position myself to buy alot of beer so it will last me quite sometime if I drink at the right times and in moderation and have some left when I really need it - Burke.

or

I could go on a completely thoughtless bender, drink all the beer in the fridge in one night, then whine & blame everyone else in the morning as to why I'm not only dry but hungover as (frank) too. - Nonis











BTW... Dave drank Brian's beer.
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jul 4 @ 2:45 PM ET
franson is a slow skating offensive d-man.. has a snap shot and thats it

the reson he heas so many hits is because he gives the puck away so absurdly much that he hits the guy right after him.. its more of a grazing as the guy skates by him but i guess thats a hit at the ACC

hits are counted different in each arena.. its not a good stat to go by.

a defenseman who cannot play defense is no use at all.

- Dozzer


this i agree on. jesus.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 2:45 PM ET
he coughs up the puck and grazes the guy as he skates by

the ACC is very generous with their hit counts

toronto finished third overall

in the playoffs.. thats how generous the ACC is with ht count

- Dozzer

Giraffe on skates.
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 2:46 PM ET
we're not allowed to be negative...but that is a disgrace. Say what you want about mcclemant, but that makes zero sense.
- clark_griswold


He doesn't fit the style of our new bottom six. Our bottom six can all pretty much slide up and down the line up and add scoring.

Nonahan had to sever the bond between RC and JM. It HAD to be done.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:46 PM ET
this i agree on. jesus.
- clark_griswold


you rang?
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jul 4 @ 2:46 PM ET
tbh your two cents isnt worth a penny after yesterday.
- big_dion


oh i didn't know the leafs had a great season? again, i think they are what they are. Just because the masses don't agree doesn't mean i'm wrong.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:47 PM ET
he coughs up the puck and grazes the guy as he skates by

the ACC is very generous with their hit counts

toronto finished third overall

in the playoffs.. thats how generous the ACC is with ht count

- Dozzer


I'd have no problem with him on the bottom pairing. The problem is the guy thinks of himself as a #1 dman and he wants to be paid like it. Good riddance.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
So who will be our assistant coaches??
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
some players garner serious hate on here. Franson isn't perfect, but come on, top 5 in hits, great playoffs, as bad as he was defensively he still gets points. Last year a nightmare.

But do you honestly think he can never turn it around? i remember tons of ppl on here claiming he could replace Dion's minutes. That was hillarious, but i still think franson has tools. People on here want del zotto. Are you kidding me? Not much younger, all offense, terrible D and not a right shot/6'5/decent hitter.

Just my 2 cents

- clark_griswold


I get he was top 5 in hits, but honestly, did you see any? The guy doesn't hit and consistently chases guys in the defensive zone. I don't know how determines what a hit is, but I didn't see franson hit anyone last year.
Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D...
Joined: 08.07.2013

Jul 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
(frank) you guys.... I spend time time typing a quality post and noone notices.
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jul 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
So who will be our assistant coaches??
- MCharisma91


HH. Why do you think he has no more time for these chats? 33:19 4 life
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
So who will be our assistant coaches??
- MCharisma91

Dozzer, LeafMan and the_President for comedy relief.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
would you take MDZ over him? And have you seeen MDZ play in tough situations ie: playoffs?
- clark_griswold


not a big fan of MDZ

not at that money anyways

the leafs have rielly and gardiner.. we need stability back there.. not more offense
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