If Weircoch is posting a 56 on-ice goal %, he's obviously doing SOMETHING to regain the puck in his own zone.
- Blackstrom2

Sheltered mins ,and was benched half the season.Might be a reason for this too dont you think??

not even garth snow is that stupid....maybe if milbury was still there
- sensarmy_11

Snow is great... Canadian Media talks poop about him!!!

Ottawa GM is horrible!!!

They are in horrible shape. Might be looking at a lottery pick this year!!

Not a bad thing... but he has done a bad job!!!

Not sure how he still has a job!!!

What do you not understand about the 74 blogs Yost has written showing why weircioch has played very well, and Cowen has no idea what he's doing?
- TommyDeVito

I think a lot of Cowen's problems last year stemmed from rehabbing from hip surgery... imagine being a 21yo 6'5" 230lb hockey player, then having hip surgery; you weren't fast to begin with, and now your timing is way off. I think Karlsson went through a similar thing this year, but he's 1,000,000 times better than Cowen.

Far too early to give on Cowen ,just as its far too early to predict that Wiercoch numbers are the be all and end in the discussion about two very different styles of defenders

I think a lot of Cowen's problems last year stemmed from rehabbing from hip surgery... imagine being a 21yo 6'5" 230lb hockey player, then having hip surgery; you weren't fast to begin with, and now your timing is way off. I think Karlsson went through a similar thing this year, but he's 1,000,000 times better than Cowen.
- KarlKarlsson

Yep sophmore slump ,missing training camp.Change in veteran support losing gonchar as his partner.Were probably all factors ,kid has still tons of potntial and if its a choice between him and wiercoch ,weircoch goes everytime at this moment

The only way this deal makes sense is if two things occur: Philadelphia retains salary, and packages a very desirable draft-pick with Lecavalier in the process. Then, Ottawa can reap benefits away from taking on Lecavalier and his puzzling contract.

Conclusion: No

Snow is great... Canadian Media talks poop about him!!!

Ottawa GM is horrible!!!

They are in horrible shape. Might be looking at a lottery pick this year!!

Not a bad thing... but he has done a bad job!!!

Not sure how he still has a job!!!
- jimmc7722

Don't know if it's the GM or the owner, who refuses to open his wallet for the team, and just drains them.

Combined with the ways the last two captains have left, it's looking damn near Ballard-y.

Cowen (frank)ing sucks.
- ClarksonDavid

I Think hes better than he showed last season..but hes a long way from being good

Yep sophmore slump ,missing training camp.Change in veteran support losing gonchar as his partner.Were probably all factors ,kid has still tons of potntial and if its a choice between him and wiercoch ,weircoch goes everytime at this moment

- top shelf 15

Or Phillips... why aren't we talking about trading Phillips?

I think a lot of Cowen's problems last year stemmed from rehabbing from hip surgery... imagine being a 21yo 6'5" 230lb hockey player, then having hip surgery; you weren't fast to begin with, and now your timing is way off. I think Karlsson went through a similar thing this year, but he's 1,000,000 times better than Cowen.
- KarlKarlsson

very similar to what happened to Schenn. Knee injury kept him from working for a summer, and his game suffered big time.

What's important is to keep the confidence up, once that dips, they're done. Schenn could've been a beast, but he was completely mis-managed.

Or Phillips... why aren't we talking about trading Phillips?
- KarlKarlsson

Hasn't been named captain yet

Or Phillips... why aren't we talking about trading Phillips?
- KarlKarlsson

Phillips will be the teams 7th dman next season, him and neil can play crib in the pressbox

......you're trolling right?

Like, I don't advocate giving up on Cowen yet, but he was a parking cone last year. He didn't do any open ice hitting, didn't clear the crease, didn't crack heads, he was atrocious.

Ottawa's game is supposed to be possession based. Successful teams do it. Wiercioch is quite good at it. At this point, I'd take him over Cowen in a heartbeat. If your argument is that you need a knuckle-dragger on your roster to throw hits and clear the net, then Ottawa should just go re-sign Andy Sutton, because he actually played better defensively than Cowen does at the moment and is far better at those other things you've identified.
- the_terror

I assume he is, which is why I won't respond. My post has nothing to do with Cowen. I'm not on board with giving up on him now. We'll see where he is at the end of the year. Arguing Wiercioch is "just bad" is so dumb, it doesn't warrant merit.

Phillips will be the teams 7th dman next season, him and neil can play crib in the pressbox

- top shelf 15

What the hell are teh sens without Spezza, Alfredsson, Neil and Phillips?

Guess we are really hunting for a vet center,every trade rumor except for yesterday,s sharp rumor has us looking at one

What the hell are teh sens without Spezza, Alfredsson, Neil and Phillips?


- Feeling Glucky?

Believe or not better

What the hell are teh sens without Spezza, Alfredsson, Neil and Phillips?


- Feeling Glucky?

DP

Guess we are really hunting for a vet center,every trade rumor except for yesterday,s sharp rumor has us looking at one
- top shelf 15

Sharp can play center, too.

I really hope the Sens do everything possible to stay out of the bottom-5

Sharp can play center, too.

I really hope the Sens do everything possible to stay out of the bottom-5
- Feeling Glucky?

Yeah not happening ,his value would make us give assets we have no buisness giving up for him.So Mcdavid here we come

I don't get the hate. I'll probably never get the hate. And shuffling out a defenseman who can play on a second-pairing tomorrow seems like nothing more than another move to push this team, very quietly, towards the draft lottery.
- Travis Yost

That may be what the Sens are doing, but let's say they do get the 1st overall pick. So they draft McDavid but won't be able to resign him after the expiration of his entry level contract because the Sens only want to spend the bare minimum. I'm sorry but if you're the owner of a Canadian hockey franchise you better have some deep pockets. The fans won't accept this $50M Glorified AHL Sideshow for much longer.

I'm not trying to bash your team, mine is no better, but I know Ottawa. It's a government town. If you're winning, everything is great. Start losing, and you're forgotten faster than a glancing thought. Ottawa fans have a very short memory and patience.

Maybe Melnyk can hire some Forensic Specialists to find out whats gone wrong...

weircioch didnt have a good yr imo.. somo slump. slow, bad defensively

trade greening
keep condra

Snow is great... Canadian Media talks poop about him!!!

Ottawa GM is horrible!!!

They are in horrible shape. Might be looking at a lottery pick this year!!

Not a bad thing... but he has done a bad job!!!

Not sure how he still has a job!!!
- jimmc7722

Garth Snow is great? You realise you're talking about the same guy who gave Rick DiPietro a 15 year contract?

The problem with Ottawa is not their GM. It's the owner. Melnyk is a penny pincher and won't spend the money necessary to build a championship team. In order to win you've gotta spend near the cap and Melnyk has never been willing to do that.

Snow is great... Canadian Media talks poop about him!!!

Ottawa GM is horrible!!!

They are in horrible shape. Might be looking at a lottery pick this year!!

Not a bad thing... but he has done a bad job!!!

Not sure how he still has a job!!!
- jimmc7722

Maybe Melnyk can hire some Forensic Specialists to find out whats gone wrong...
- RoloTahmasee

First of all. Melnyk's too cheap to spend any money on private investigators. Hell the guy won't spend more than $50M/year on his team (salary wise at least).

Secondly, hiring a PI would be for not because Melnyk would realize, by the end of the investigation, that he is the problem with the Sens organization. This team will never be good until Melnyk sells a majority stake in the team or the whole team altogether.