Nobody knows the answer. Fact is he did get injured and the team was unable to overcome the injury.

What makes you think he won't be on the injured list for significant time next year?
- Tumbleweed

because that was a freak injury.

People say PDO is a luck stat, but for my money, the only real "luck" that affects a team over the course of a season is injuries to key players.

tell me when i have female doged. I have said we're bad. How is that female doging? saying im fine with a lottery pick is not female doging.

ive had it with this crap! 67! fire nonis and carlyle! - that's whining.

im fine with a lotter pick and hopefully we can let some kids develop along the way.
- clark_griswold

kind of the definition of it actually.. its your tone.. not what you say

team wont be a lottery, we will be 7-10th place.

your being a negative nancy, thats what it all boils down to.
- big_dion

i thought last year we'd be 6-10. Im not just down on the buds, i think all Canadian teams this year are looking bad. Real bad. I'd be surprised if any of them make it (which is even worse than last year)

i agree, bernier 100%

gardiner is great, i like him, but he may get moved eventually cause we have so much great D.
- big_dion

Yeah I'm ok with trading Gardiner if you're upgrading our C position, other than that, no.

Only if he was sent back down to the Marlies. Or did he have a 2 way contract?
- peddy-93

1 way or 2 way, it doesn't matter with regards to waivers, all it means is they make different amounts of $ in the different leagues.


I know they got rid of teh half salary retained when a guy gets nabbed on re-entry, but I keep forgetting if players still had to go through waivers to come up from the AHL

core isnt about skill.. its a mentality
- Dozzer

few grasp the mental aspect of it all.

Hense a world and a nation filled with negativity.

alright!

i am gonna go ban crazy if the insults do not stop

now. i dont care who you are.. next direct insult that has nothing to do with the topic at hand (ie: name calling) and you're gone for the week.

LM and i am too damned busy to deal with it so the rope has been shortened

Don't know if it has been touched upon but Holland is out of options, it is the Leafs, waiver or trade.
- LeafMan

Leafs.

Don't know if it has been touched upon but Holland is out of options, it is the Leafs, waiver or trade.
- LeafMan

Just read Kentiola played wing in his brief stint with Chicago and did well. Maybe move him to wing and keep Holland centre.

1 way or 2 way, it doesn't matter with regards to waivers, all it means is they make different amounts of $ in the different leagues.


I know they got rid of teh half salary retained when a guy gets nabbed on re-entry, but I keep forgetting if players still had to go through waivers to come up from the AHL
- Feeling Glucky?

I think players only go through waivers when getting sent back to the AHL.

kind of the definition of it actually.. its your tone.. not what you say
- Dozzer

you mean an opinion? how do you decipher tone over typing? either way i guess i have to agree with everyone on here or im bringing the group down. i just see a big difference with certain posters like HH and everyone else, and don't think im being an HH

Nobody knows the answer. Fact is he did get injured and the team was unable to overcome the injury.

What makes you think he won't be on the injured list for significant time next year?
- Tumbleweed

What do you feel was most likely though. Based on how the team played with/without Bernier.

Ok, lets put it this way:

Do a complete replay of last season, except in the last 20 games, Bernier's still in net, and playing like he did in the previous 3/4s of the season.

Do you think the Leafs miss the palyoffs? All they had to do was go .500 to get in.
- Feeling Glucky?

yes

Dude bros, we lost all our perennial all stars.

Raymond
Bolland
Kulimen
McClement
Ranger
Gleason

I don't know where we go from here or how we will find any replacements meeting the impressive standard of the players above.

Do you know how hard it is to find players with no offensive skill and the willingness to travel.

We're doomed dude bros.

you mean an opinion? how do you decipher tone over typing? either way i guess i have to agree with everyone on here or im bringing the group down. i just see a big difference with certain posters like HH and everyone else, and don't think im being an HH
- clark_griswold

no, not at all.. he was an obnoxious ass... just go back and read some of your posts.. and tell me they dont come across as defeative.

people want to feel good about the team, just let them.. you dont have to respond to every positive thing they have to say

you mean an opinion? how do you decipher tone over typing? either way i guess i have to agree with everyone on here or im bringing the group down. i just see a big difference with certain posters like HH and everyone else, and don't think im being an HH
- clark_griswold

No you're not.

I just think you're being overly negative, and ignoring some of the positives.

yes
- senstroll

would have still missed, agree. Bernier would have helped but not enough.

tell me when i have female doged. I have said we're bad. How is that female doging? saying im fine with a lottery pick is not female doging.

ive had it with this crap! 67! fire nonis and carlyle! - that's whining.

im fine with a lotter pick and hopefully we can let some kids develop along the way.
- clark_griswold

It's the energy you give off. You may not see it but we do.

because that was a freak injury.

People say PDO is a luck stat, but for my money, the only real "luck" that affects a team over the course of a season is injuries to key players.
- Feeling Glucky?

Because bernier was the only goalie in the league to have someone fall on him last year?

No you're not.

I just think you're being overly negative, and ignoring some of the positives.
- Feeling Glucky?

well said.. its not all bad

i agree, bernier 100%

gardiner is great, i like him, but he may get moved eventually cause we have so much great D.
- big_dion

James Mirtle @mirtle
Kontiola: "It happened largely due to family matters but it is also due to fact that this could be my last chance to win the Stanley Cup."


Good one...that guy funny..

The Finnish feisty line. Komarov.Kontiola.Hartikanen

yes
- senstroll

no

Shelter him, we weren't going anywhere anyways, give they guy a shot.
- peddy-93

Who would do that with franson rielly and gards in the line up already..