We aren't worse than last year

We are a tad better

The end
- Garnie

you could have an argument if we knew what our 3rd / 4th lines looked like. We don't even have 'players x' in those slots yet. So who we're better, seems like wishful thinking.

I wanna puke knowing those are our centers going into next season
- DougGilmour_93

I wonder if they're looking at moving Kadri or Holland to the wing. I know he struggled a bit on the wing in the AHL, but I think he was a winger for a bit in Jr when he played with Tavares.

That would make our lines
JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul - Holland - Kadri
Komarov - Kontiola - Clarkson
Frattin - ??? - Ashton

They might still be pursuing Legwand, to drop Kontiola to 4th line and have Legwand play third

Kovalchuk and Yashin are next.
- 1979AD

Toronto. So hot right now, Toronto.

you could have an argument if we knew what our 3rd / 4th lines looked like. We don't even have 'players x' in those slots yet. So who we're better, seems like wishful thinking.
- clark_griswold

this very same argument can be used against your overly pessimistic thinking

try and keep that in mind.

We aren't worse than last year

We are a tad better

The end
- Garnie

Why do some of you guys put "the end" or "end of story"?

It's just gives off the vibe that you are arrogant and ignorant to anyone else opinion.

i know nothing about this guy (no one on here does) and while i think we are crap this year, and this guy will most likely be a bust, i'd still take him cheap over legwand at something like 3-4 years and $4 mil.
- clark_griswold

"I know nothing about this guy" + "most likely a bust" = Leaf fan

you could have an argument if we knew what our 3rd / 4th lines looked like. We don't even have 'players x' in those slots yet. So who we're better, seems like wishful thinking.
- clark_griswold

You're saying were not with the same parameters

Our D I believe is much better

this very same argument can be used against your overly pessimistic thinking

try and keep that in mind.
- Dozzer

agreed, we can just fill them up with KHL stars i guess.

Why do some of you guys put "the end" or "end of story"?

It's just gives off the vibe that you are arrogant and ignorant to anyone else opinion.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

My bad

The end

this very same argument can be used against your overly pessimistic thinking

try and keep that in mind.
- Dozzer

weird thing is last year you wanted to tank, i didn't. Know it's somehow reversed. I'm assuming you think we've improved.

would it really hurt to give him a shot in an offensive role, when we signed him as an offensive player?
- Feeling Glucky?

It sure hurts Kadri, and we signed him as an offensive player? the same guy who once got like 46 pts? I thought we got him for grit and compete!!???

"I know nothing about this guy" + "most likely a bust" = Leaf fan
- Canada Cup

no he's most likely a bust in the mold of rikard wallin, etc. As in, plays in the KHL for a reason.

weird thing is last year you wanted to tank, i didn't. Know it's somehow reversed. I'm assuming you think we've improved.
- clark_griswold

Print off all the comments, pin them up on your fridge and just come back on here when everything has played out.

You're saying were not with the same parameters

Our D I believe is much better
- Garnie

i think it could be said it's margainally better. "much" is a deep stretch. But this site is for opinions.

If you think our D is MUCH better, our forwards must be MUCH worse.

no he's most likely a bust in the mold of rikard wallin, etc. As in, plays in the KHL for a reason.
- clark_griswold

Some guys play there because they get 10 times as much money and it's tax free.

NHL may be the best league in the world, but for 3rd and 4th liners, the KHL pays better.

agreed, we can just fill them up with KHL stars i guess.
- clark_griswold

i guarantee you have never watched this guy play but you've already made up your mind about him

you must be one of those types who only trust when a player does well for another team for so many years.. then comes to toronto in his twilight years and disappoints

sorta like how the leafs have ALWAYS done things? you want more of the same of that?

not me.

Hansen, Higgins, Burrows + 2015 2nd for Kane + 2015 1st.
- Scooby_Doo

no he's most likely a bust in the mold of rikard wallin, etc. As in, plays in the KHL for a reason.
- clark_griswold

Prideless money grubber?

Print off all the comments, pin them up on your fridge and just come back on here when everything has played out.
- markmark

seems there's only about 3 of us on here saying we're worse than last year; won't be hard to remember which ones (me included)

Everyone's worried nobody wants to come here. We're clearly the destination of choice for all KHL players.
- Bigzby

Does that mean we're getting Kovalchuk?

Does that mean we're getting Kovalchuk?
- MCharisma91

Oh absolutely.

weird thing is last year you wanted to tank, i didn't. Know it's somehow reversed. I'm assuming you think we've improved.
- clark_griswold

i dont pretend to know actually.

those kinds of assumptions are generally reserved for the foolish.

we bring over teemu hartikainen yet to complete the finnish hat trick?

i think it could be said it's margainally better. "much" is a deep stretch. But this site is for opinions.

If you think our D is MUCH better, our forwards must be MUCH worse.
- clark_griswold

Ok you win

We suck and we haven't filled out the whole roster

8th pick overall with the team from last year.

I think we make the playoffs as long as Bernier plays equal to or better than last year

Just my gut feeling

I broke my crystal ball so I'm not 100% like you

i guarantee you have never watched this guy play but you've already made up your mind about him

you must be one of those types who only trust when a player does well for another team for so many years.. then comes to toronto in his twilight years and disappoints

sorta like how the leafs have ALWAYS done things? you want more of the same of that?

not me.
- Dozzer

I like the Kentiola signing, low risk medium reward kinda thing, I'm just worried how Carlyle is going to manage his ice time.