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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:54 AM ET
Link?

Bertuzzi should've been banned for life for what he did. Imho, of course.

- Scoob

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...tuzzi-suit-133149964.html

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:54 AM ET
I feel the opposite. I think Hextall actually has a plan were as Holmgren didn't. So far Hextall has accumulated 2 picks, shed 5 years of a bad contract for 3 years of a bad contract, picked up depth on the blueline on a 1 year contract and added some AHL level talent. Seems like a plan to me, just not one you like.
- jstross



I don't think it's fair to say that Holmgren didn't have a plan.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:55 AM ET
I just don't get the "anonymous" thing. Everyone knows who he is at this point.
- jmatchett383


he's given that up, no? even though he still goes by eklund.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:55 AM ET
Civil court..

He claims he would have blossomed into a top 6 winger.

- jak521


I hope he's not suing in Canada where they actually understand hockey.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
he's given that up, no? even though he still goes by eklund.
- hammarby31


That's what I meant, the Eklund thing, and not showing his face. Everyone knows his name now.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
My knee jerk reaction was to tell you to get off my ass MOAT.

And yeah I understand, there's a bunch of unknowns. I think Hexy would like to have made more changes. But I'm not upset going into the season with what we have and playing some shells games for that top line winger for G. As long as his production starts more smoothly than last years!

- FlyersGrace

Now now, let's keep it clean.

I think they'll start with Schenn up top if Vinny's still on the team. Hopefully we can move him. With the money being thrown around this season it feels kind of ridiculous that we'd have to eat salary. I'd just say no and wait it out. Someone will need him. If not now than 10-15 games into the season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
I just don't get the "anonymous" thing. Everyone knows who he is at this point.
- jmatchett383



Have you seen the podcasts? His face is there for everyone to see..
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
Then you must be glad Hartnell is gone since he had one ES goal in his last 29 playoff games.
- Feanor


i like hartnell, but i'm more than ok with him being gone. the last playoff goal i remember him scoring is the game 6 SCF tying goal late in regulation - and even that was a fluky deflection. see ya'.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:57 AM ET
That's what I meant, the Eklund thing, and not showing his face. Everyone knows his name now.
- jmatchett383


ah. and his name was easily found with a quick google search, even several years ago.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:57 AM ET
Have you seen the podcasts? His face is there for everyone to see..
- MJL


No, I refuse to do much more than skim his posts. It's like reading Tim P, but with less that I care about.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 3 @ 11:57 AM ET
Now now, let's keep it clean.

I think they'll start with Schenn up top if Vinny's still on the team. Hopefully we can move him. With the money being thrown around this season it feels kind of ridiculous that we'd have to eat salary. I'd just say no and wait it out. Someone will need him. If not now than 10-15 games into the season.

- mayorofangrytown


I'm worried if we wait 10-15 games the teams that needed him will have dreams of Connor McDavid swimming around in their heads.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
Yeah, I felt letting him go was a mistake at the time and still do.
- Scoob


and the fact that he's plying his trade for the devils makes me (frank)ing sick. dallas and boston i could live with.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
So Akeson's surprisingly low $575K cap hit just happens to mean that if the Flyers add Hagg and Straka to their roster, they would be almost exactly the amount of Pronger's cap hit over the cap ceiling. Those two players are on there just because they have the highest cap hits and are waiver exempt. As soon as the season officially starts they can be demoted to the AHL and the Flyers can call up Laughton.

FORWARDS
Brayden Schenn ($2.500m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
R.J. Umberger ($4.600m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Jason Akeson ($0.575m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) / Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Petr Straka ($0.925m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) / Nick Schultz ($1.250m)
Robert Hagg ($0.925m) /
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Ray Emery ($1.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $73,911,429; BONUSES: $1,500,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): -$4,911,429
EastBeast18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.19.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
That's because most people who call themselves Flyers fans are really just Eagles fans who love to listen to WIP and hate everything about their teams. They want to trade the entire team for the "right" players, and then once they get traded, they bemoan the trades and then want to trade the new players, and the cycle repeats.
- jmatchett383


Those people make me sick TBH. Ive been a longtime fan, i stick with team through the bad and good. They frustrate the sh!t outta me sometimes of course, but that comes with being a flyer fan.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
Now now, let's keep it clean.

I think they'll start with Schenn up top if Vinny's still on the team. Hopefully we can move him. With the money being thrown around this season it feels kind of ridiculous that we'd have to eat salary. I'd just say no and wait it out. Someone will need him. If not now than 10-15 games into the season.

- mayorofangrytown

I agree. No need to eat salary on him at all. Particularly if he has a good season and we trade him at the trade deadline.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
I'm worried if we wait 10-15 games the teams that needed him will have dreams of Connor McDavid swimming around in their heads.
- aflyerpower8


Pretty sure Buffalo has him locked up. Why else would you give Meszaros $4M this season unless you plan on sucking but meeting the cap floor?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
So now Ek has Ottawa in on Vinny.

Could they get maybe Jared Cowen? Could it be a deal for Boby Ryan where it is Vinny and a pick and we eat some salaray? Not seeing what could come back from Ottawa. Maybe Lazar if we eat salrary? Just spitballing
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
Flyers won't be able to score goals without Hartnell.

Rememeber in the lockout season when he had 8 goals all season and the Flyers offense sucked? Oh wait, they were 9th in the league in goals.

- Feanor

Vincent Lecavalier and Scott Hartnell are only useful when they put up points. How good were we last October when they both got hurt in the same game against the Phoenix Coyotes? I think its funny that you criticize my posts but cannot backup your own criticism and bring something of value and Substance to back yourself up. You pretty much take others opinions and make them your own.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
Those people make me sick TBH. Ive been a longtime fan, i stick with team through the bad and good. They frustrate the sh!t outta me sometimes of course, but that comes with being a flyer fan.
- EastBeast18


I literally (literally) get in screaming matches at games with the idiots in the next section over. Most Philadelphia sports fans really don't graph hockey all that well.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
So now Ek has Ottawa in on Vinny.

Could they get maybe Jared Cowen? Could it be a deal for Boby Ryan where it is Vinny and a pick and we eat some salaray? Not seeing what could come back from Ottawa. Maybe Lazar if we eat salrary? Just spitballing

- J35Bacher


A draft pick is what I'm hoping for.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
Used to feel bad for Steve Moore... now the guys just needs to stop.. He is now seeking $68 million dollars stemming from the Bertuzzi incident

- jak521


Unfortunate incident, but uh, isn't that an assumed risk when you get paid millions of dollars to play a physical game? No excuse for what bertuzzi did, but 68 mil?

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
I just don't get the "anonymous" thing. Everyone knows who he is at this point.
- jmatchett383

He's the Gene Simmons of the hockey world.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
So now Ek has Ottawa in on Vinny.

Could they get maybe Jared Cowen? Could it be a deal for Boby Ryan where it is Vinny and a pick and we eat some salaray? Not seeing what could come back from Ottawa. Maybe Lazar if we eat salrary? Just spitballing

- J35Bacher


IMO nothing really needs to come back outside a low pick, especially if the Flyers eat little salary.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
Vincent Lecavalier and Scott Hartnell are only useful when they put up points. How good were we last October when they both got hurt in the same game against the Phoenix Coyotes? I think its funny that you criticize my posts but cannot backup your own criticism and bring something of value and Substance to back yourself up. You pretty much take others opinions and make them your own.
- SuperSchennBros


Yeah, the Flyers were really tearing it up before they got hurt.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Minor Moves, Giroux
- bmeltzer


Bring in Reid Gardiner to camp!
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