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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:14 AM ET
Well, Pronger's making less that the league minimum the last year or two, so it's totally possible a team trying to reach the cap floor trades for him.
- jmatchett383

Can they trade him even though he is injured?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:14 AM ET
Yup, Hexy has some magic to make, no doubt. The only true relief is when Pronger's $4.9mm comes off the books...in 3 f'n years. Umberger will be gone that year as well. So just hang on!
- wolfhounds

Next two seasons are pretty blocked, but things really open up after that. I think Hexy will wait to see how these younger guys step up before they get inked again.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:16 AM ET
Can they trade him even though he is injured?
- jak521


I believe so. I know that Edmonton and LA made a trade where a physical was not required and it went through. That was the old CBA though, not sure if there's new rules in the current CBA.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jul 3 @ 11:16 AM ET
Can they trade him even though he is injured?
- jak521


I don't think so now because he has a role in the organization.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:16 AM ET
I think youarewrong got a year.

Edit: I loved the MJL unban countdown.

- jmatchett383

I think that youarewrong got a 2 yr ban but not sure when it went into effect.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:16 AM ET
Next two seasons are pretty blocked, but things really open up after that. I think Hexy will wait to see how these younger guys step up before they get inked again.
- FlyersGrace


If we retain Coburn (which I think we should), he'll probably be looking at above AMac money in 2 years.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:17 AM ET
I don't think so now because he has a role in the organization.
- KGBflyers10


Can't. You can't have any role (officially) associated with the team if you are currently signed as a player with a valid contract. Violates the CBA. Otherwise, they'd give Giroux $900K a year to play and $7M a year to be the team's assistant to the assistant of hockey operation's assistant.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:18 AM ET
If we retain Coburn (which I think we should), he'll probably be looking at above AMac money in 2 years.
- jmatchett383

I think he will be traded before that...
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
capt eo is not eklund
- -davies-

I have seen both of them in the same place at the same time and can accurately identify one of them in a police lineup.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
I think he will be traded before that...
- jak521


Well there better be a hell of a return coming, or we better have 1-2 of the young guys become a top-pair player in the next 2 seasons.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
If we retain Coburn (which I think we should), he'll probably be looking at above AMac money in 2 years.
- jmatchett383


Yup. It comes down to length, cause Coburn will be what, 30/31 when his current contract is up? And when he starts to lose a step, one of his biggest assets is taking a hit. 3 year deal.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
And so the picture hunt has continued.

RIP sweet innocent pictures.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
I have seen both of them in the same place at the same time and can accurately identify one of them in a police lineup.
- mayorofangrytown


How would you know it's Eklund? He's anonymous.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
I don't think so now because he has a role in the organization.
- KGBflyers10

Pronger can't have an offical role in the org. Theyv'e brought him in occaisonally (prolly not paid him) but he would lose his contract if he took an official role.
And yes I thought we could trade an injured player as long as both teams were completely aware of the issue. That said, I don't think we ever will.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:20 AM ET
If we retain Coburn (which I think we should), he'll probably be looking at above AMac money in 2 years.
- jmatchett383

Without a doubt.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:20 AM ET
And so the picture hunt has continued.

RIP sweet innocent pictures.

- jak521


Wait...why did my picture get deleted? It didn't show him off-ice and it wasn't "exploiting" him as I understand the definition.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Minor Moves, Giroux
- bmeltzer

I'm gonna use a quote of my own making. The Flyers are only as good as their offseason. This has not been a good offseason. To make matters worse, it's harder to make the playoffs under the new format. I truly believe unless a concrete blueprint was in place from the start, Hextall should have left his perfectly good team alone. Don't put your stamp on it just to do so. At least he had a good draft though. One of the bright spot of the summer so far.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
You just broke your last post thing... within 2 minutes...
- Guile


I meant my final comment/opinion about the administration of the website… not last post I'll ever make. :/
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
*puts shotgun in mouth.....*
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 11:22 AM ET
I think youarewrong got a year.

Edit: I loved the MJL unban countdown.

- jmatchett383

I know at least one lifer.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 3 @ 11:22 AM ET
It'll help that Akeson's on a $575k cap-hit for this season.
- Tomahawk


Wow, that low?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:22 AM ET
I meant my final comment/opinion about the administration of the website… not last post I'll ever make. :/
- eayost

I understood.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:22 AM ET
I'm gonna use a quote of my own making. The Flyers are only as good as their offseason. This has not been a good offseason. To make matters worse, it's harder to make the playoffs under the new format. I truly believe unless a concrete blueprint was in place from the start, Hextall should have left his perfectly good team alone. Don't put your stamp on it just to do so. At least he had a good draft though. One of the bright spot of the summer so far.
- SuperSchennBros


I disagree. Based on what was available and what they were getting paid, I think it was a fantastic offseason so far by not doing anything.

But if you want to use that measuring stick...how was the LA Kings' offseason last year?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 11:23 AM ET
I know at least one lifer.
- mayorofangrytown

This does not surprise me. You have the "I like criminals" mindset.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 3 @ 11:23 AM ET
I'm gonna use a quote of my own making. The Flyers are only as good as their offseason. This has not been a good offseason. To make matters worse, it's harder to make the playoffs under the new format. I truly believe unless a concrete blueprint was in place from the start, Hextall should have left his perfectly good team alone. Don't put your stamp on it just to do so. At least he had a good draft though. One of the bright spot of the summer so far.
- SuperSchennBros


The only difference right now is Hartnell/Umberger right? Everything else is the same. You think that bumps them out of the playoffs?
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