Send Grabner and a pick and/or a prospect for Evander Kane. Then Bailey and a 6th rounder to Toronto for Phaneuf. My wish is still that Garth pulls off a blockbuster deal to land Boychuck and Marchand...



Kane Tavares Okposo
Kulemin Nielsen Grabo
Lee Strome Nelson
Martin Cizikas Clutterback

Hamonic De Haan
Phaneuf Reinhart
Visnoysky Strait

Halak
Johnson
- bjpgallagher

Grabner and a pick or prospect for Kane? He is gonna cost a whole lot more then that.

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What???

We need D.. not more forwards.. We can not one of your best commodities for something we already have in spades.

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- XxNYIxX

No more forwards. If the Isles can get Kane and Bogosian without giving up all the prospects than fine, otherwise the focus needs to be on D.

Wait..... Did I read your post correctly, did you try to offer Yandle for 3 players of Frans, Grabs, Bales???
Which rereading it over & over, you did. Unless the Yotes are throwing in some high end picks, like a 1st or a couple of 2nds, just don't see it happening.
- Ur Not Me

Watching alot of the both teams, I cant see how Bailey has much trade value. Frans has improved each year and has become a real solid NHL player. Grabner has speed and is a good penalty killer. It seems like a lot but Yandle is affordable & is a 50 point defenseman that can run a power play point. I dont see the Islanders power play point as a strength next year.

The consensus around the Islanders and there fan base seems to be that Strome, Lee and Nelson are going to be studs and are untouchable. If that is true, someone in the forward group will have to go. If the Coyotes throw a complimentary player into that trade it would be possible, but a 1st rounder and a top 2 pairing dman for 3 complimentary players seems a bit much.

I think the Leafs could retain $ 1M which makes this a very good long term deal for a top 2D

But the Leaf will want Strome and thats for sure..
- sarasotamike

i bet you can guess what else is for sure....

Bailey and Nielson at most. Can't have a whole line for one guy who isn't great in his own end.
- Isles_since_6

Grabner and Nielson have the most value in that trade. I agree Yandle is not a defensive dman but he does exceed the point totals of many forwards at an affordable price. Considering what defenseman on the market are getting, Yandle is 27 and signed at a reasonable number.

I think Yandle would make the Isles power play top 5 in the NHL.

Grabner and Nielson have the most value in that trade. I agree Yandle is not a defensive dman but he does exceed the point totals of many forwards at an affordable price. Considering what defenseman on the market are getting, Yandle is 27 and signed at a reasonable number.

I think Yandle would make the Isles power play top 5 in the NHL.
- scatch38

but thats what we need...a defensive defenseman...i dont think yandle is the answer

Watching alot of the both teams, I cant see how Bailey has much trade value. Frans has improved each year and has become a real solid NHL player. Grabner has speed and is a good penalty killer. It seems like a lot but Yandle is affordable & is a 50 point defenseman that can run a power play point. I dont see the Islanders power play point as a strength next year.

The consensus around the Islanders and there fan base seems to be that Strome, Lee and Nelson are going to be studs and are untouchable. If that is true, someone in the forward group will have to go. If the Coyotes throw a complimentary player into that trade it would be possible, but a 1st rounder and a top 2 pairing dman for 3 complimentary players seems a bit much.
- scatch38

Frans was if i remember correct a top 5 second line centers in the league last year. Grabner is one hell of a penalty killer and a second line 20 goal scorer. Josh is a gifted player that gets "a little" better every year.. A change of teams would do him wonders... The three of them for one player... and not "star" player would be very hard to swallow & very lopsided in the Yotes favor. He is a fantastic D-men... but hes not upper echelon.

XxNYIxX

I think the Leafs could retain $ 1M which makes this a very good long term deal for a top 2D

But the Leaf will want Strome and thats for sure..
- sarasotamike

Well I want lots of things. Doesnt mean ill get them though.

but thats what we need...a defensive defenseman...i dont think yandle is the answer
- LetsGoIsles

Defensive dmen are on the way in the system. Top 4 defensive dman would be an elite dman. Otherwise you can pick up a guy like Butler from Calgary on the cheap.

Frans was if i remember correct a top 5 second line centers in the league last year. Grabner is one hell of a penalty killer and a second line 20 goal scorer. Josh is a gifted player that gets "a little" better every year.. A change of teams would do him wonders... The three of them for one player... and not "star" player would be very hard to swallow & very lopsided in the Yotes favor. He is a fantastic D-men... but hes not upper echelon.

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- XxNYIxX

I believe he was top 3

Watching alot of the both teams, I cant see how Bailey has much trade value. Frans has improved each year and has become a real solid NHL player. Grabner has speed and is a good penalty killer. It seems like a lot but Yandle is affordable & is a 50 point defenseman that can run a power play point. I dont see the Islanders power play point as a strength next year.

The consensus around the Islanders and there fan base seems to be that Strome, Lee and Nelson are going to be studs and are untouchable. If that is true, someone in the forward group will have to go. If the Coyotes throw a complimentary player into that trade it would be possible, but a 1st rounder and a top 2 pairing dman for 3 complimentary players seems a bit much.
- scatch38

The issue w/the islanders is that we need defensive Dmen, like another poster mentioned. Yandle would definitely help the PP but the biggest NEED is more of a defensive minded Dman.
Frans would immediately be Yotes 2C & help the PK. With him improving every year and having 2yrs left on contract on the cheap becomes valuable. Grabs has skill just think his problem is mental ( he just needs to stop thinking and just react ) but Bailey I would agree w/u but think a change of scenery would help him, just like Turris situation.

Frans was if i remember correct a top 5 second line centers in the league last year. Grabner is one hell of a penalty killer and a second line 20 goal scorer. Josh is a gifted player that gets "a little" better every year.. A change of teams would do him wonders... The three of them for one player... and not "star" player would be very hard to swallow & very lopsided in the Yotes favor. He is a fantastic D-men... but hes not upper echelon.

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- XxNYIxX

I agree upper echelon dmen would be Doughty, Keith, Chara, etc. But those guys would never be had for any of the players mentioned on the Islanders side, and Yandle had more points than all of them but Chara. Grabner is not a second line player, never has been on the Islanders. He is a speedy player that really succeeds on the PK. Andy Hilbert had second line minutes on the islanders too but I cant title him a second liner with 11 goals, same can be said for Shawn Bates. Nielson again is a great player, but management went out and got a second line center in Grabo to move him to the third line. So I wouldnt compare him to an elite top second line center because he wouldn be on th 2014 Islanders or Coyotes.

Josh Bailey has potential with new scenery but that is not a huge selling point to a trade partner. I was a big pro Bailey player when the Islanders drafted him but he isnt going to get any better on the Island. Maybe he can settle on another team hopefully.

I'm just defining each player as they are good and bad. Its hard to trade guys you like but if you were trading Yandle from your team you would expect a lot for good reason.

The issue w/the islanders is that we need defensive Dmen, like another poster mentioned. Yandle would definitely help the PP but the biggest NEED is more of a defensive minded Dman.
Frans would immediately be Yotes 2C & help the PK. With him improving every year and having 2yrs left on contract on the cheap becomes valuable. Grabs has skill just think his problem is mental ( he just needs to stop thinking and just react ) but Bailey I would agree w/u but think a change of scenery would help him, just like Turris situation.
- Ur Not Me

I think the Islanders should go towards the cheaper defensive dmen out there on the market if thats what is truly needed. I like a guy like Chris Butler or Douglas Murray. I am not sure that would thrill the fans though.
Frans would slide into the third line center with the Coyotes following Vermette's huge year and the fact that Hanzal has been a consistent 2C his whole career.
I am a Bailey fan and I think successful or not, he needs to move to another team to find himself.
Grabner has great speed but I think with some more skill and mental toughness he might convert on more of those breakaways he creates with his speed.
Hoping both teams pleay well this year

I agree upper echelon dmen would be Doughty, Keith, Chara, etc. But those guys would never be had for any of the players mentioned on the Islanders side, and Yandle had more points than all of them but Chara. Grabner is not a second line player, never has been on the Islanders. He is a speedy player that really succeeds on the PK. Andy Hilbert had second line minutes on the islanders too but I cant title him a second liner with 11 goals, same can be said for Shawn Bates. Nielson again is a great player, but management went out and got a second line center in Grabo to move him to the third line. So I wouldnt compare him to an elite top second line center because he wouldn be on th 2014 Islanders or Coyotes.

Josh Bailey has potential with new scenery but that is not a huge selling point to a trade partner. I was a big pro Bailey player when the Islanders drafted him but he isnt going to get any better on the Island. Maybe he can settle on another team hopefully.

I'm just defining each player as they are good and bad. Its hard to trade guys you like but if you were trading Yandle from your team you would expect a lot for good reason.
- scatch38

Points aren't all that, we need someone that can play defense

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Points aren't all that, we need someone that can play defense

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- XxNYIxX

I agree, but Yandle isnt a liability at D. He is also young enough to improve. Radek Martinek is great defensively but I think you would rather the closest to a complete defenseman

I agree, but Yandle isnt a liability at D. He is also young enough to improve. Radek Martinek is great defensively but I think you would rather the closest to a complete defenseman
- scatch38

NO.... if Radek was 6 years younger and not made of glass.. i would take him over most d-men in the league

XxNYIxX

I think the Islanders should go towards the cheaper defensive dmen out there on the market if thats what is truly needed. I like a guy like Chris Butler or Douglas Murray. I am not sure that would thrill the fans though.
Frans would slide into the third line center with the Coyotes following Vermette's huge year and the fact that Hanzal has been a consistent 2C his whole career.
I am a Bailey fan and I think successful or not, he needs to move to another team to find himself.
Grabner has great speed but I think with some more skill and mental toughness he might convert on more of those breakaways he creates with his speed.
Hoping both teams pleay well this year
- scatch38

By opinion only.... I think that Snow might consider the cheaper option of Butler/Murray which the fanbase would be ok with. But still think a Bailey + for Phaneuf is what Snow may want. I think he's set w/the F position for now, unless a trade came across where Snow cant deny it.

I agree, but Yandle isnt a liability at D. He is also young enough to improve. Radek Martinek is great defensively but I think you would rather the closest to a complete defenseman
- scatch38

Martinek played very well at D, even Columbus signed him after us, just that he gets injured to much. That was his only downfall.

NO.... if Radek was 6 years younger and not made of glass.. i would take him over most d-men in the league

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- XxNYIxX

lol he is made of glass. 6 years ago he was steady. But you bring up another good point in health. Yandle has no history of injuries

Martinek played very well at D, even Columbus signed him after us, just that he gets injured to much. That was his only downfall.
- Ur Not Me

A complete defenseman adds offense as well. I agree in Radek playing good defense and blocking shots. There is certainly a place for that on a winning team, but we can both agree he provided no offense.

By opinion only.... I think that Snow might consider the cheaper option of Butler/Murray which the fanbase would be ok with. But still think a Bailey + for Phaneuf is what Snow may want. I think he's set w/the F position for now, unless a trade came across where Snow cant deny it.
- Ur Not Me

How would you feel about Phaneuf? I think Toronto wants a lot for him, but probably would be willing to take less to unload his contract

A complete defenseman adds offense as well. I agree in Radek playing good defense and blocking shots. There is certainly a place for that on a winning team, but we can both agree he provided no offense.
- scatch38

We dont need him to.

XxNYIxX

lol he is made of glass. 6 years ago he was steady. But you bring up another good point in health. Yandle has no history of injuries
- scatch38

Bro, I'm a big Yandle fan, and would want him on my team today, but the way the isles are constructed right now, adding the NHL depth to make this team deeper/stronger at F's, the isles just need D, defensive D. Now if Yandle could come at a reasonable cost, yes I would want him, but I think the Yotes value him high (which I would too) to where I just don't see a match???

How would you feel about Phaneuf? I think Toronto wants a lot for him, but probably would be willing to take less to unload his contract
- scatch38

I only want Phaneuf at the expense of Bailey +
if that is not the deal/trade then I have no issues not taking him.
My point being that Phaneuf is making $7M for 7yrs and at the age of 30.
To me that contract/him are good for the next 4yrs maybe 5th, but to pay someone $7M on the last 2-3yrs is crazy when he'll be 35-37yrs old... sorry just my opinion.

Plus don't care want TOR would want, there are the ones who put themselves in that position. hence like the isles put themselves in the DP situation.

Bro, I'm a big Yandle fan, and would want him on my team today, but the way the isles are constructed right now, adding the NHL depth to make this team deeper/stronger at F's, the isles just need D, defensive D. Now if Yandle could come at a reasonable cost, yes I would want him, but I think the Yotes value him high (which I would too) to where I just don't see a match???
- Ur Not Me

I think the Isles are deep at F, wouldnt see why a match wouldnt be found with a team that is deep at D. Dan Boyle is worse defensively and old but that seemed to be what the Islanders are going at. Just my opinion