well if that wasn't the worst piece of poop I've ever read on this joke of a website...
- steponmytoe

disagree


read this


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/seasonticket.php

I think Garth Snow should be relieved of his duties. This started to become apparent when he signed Dipietro to that ridiculous deal but he has continued to make mistakes by going after Ryan Smythe when it was apparent there was no way he was going to re-sign with them. But the worst was the Vanek trade because Moulson is a pretty damn good player that would have stayed with the Islanders if Snow didn't burn that bridge. Snow is one of the main reasons the islanders rarely make the playoffs
- wheresthesoda

i can say with a straight face there is NOTHING about this post that i agree with. its actually quite remarkable.

The Isles need a true rebuild. Commit to it and don't try to rush it. Change the culture from within and the free agents will come.
- Glatt-iator

huh??

you are claiming that they rushed this rebuild??...you may will be on an island if this is in fact your argument.

I'd have to disagree and Buffalo showed that with the signings they were able to make, while being the undisputed worst team all of last season.

Can the argument be made that we overpaid somewhat, yes, though not along the lines of Orpik to the Caps.....I would say our overpay amounts were pretty modest.

The question I have for the Islanders is that are the additions made(assuming this is mostly it) enough to get out of the lottery and maybe contend for a playoff spot. Maybe I'm wrong(and I'm not trolling) but I just don't see it. Nabokov was good, that will help but it looks like it's really going to be up to the rookies/kids to start stepping it up..... That'll be the decider in my opinion

What a bunch of $#!+ that article was. Dee- you really don't know what the problem is? That probably is true since you wrote in that article that "Garth won't be taken advantage of" and that "Wang won't overpay". Their track records state otherwise...Mouslon & Vanek trades, Yashin and DiPietro contracts...but why not overlook the obvious. This will be the last year for your blog box access so you certainly don't want to rock that boat do you.

More BS from the Islanders unpaid intern for life= Dee.

There is a reason why no one will sign here and it isn't because Garth is offering great deals and players are saying no. It is because the Islanders are offering Wang's money and after 15 years of ownership, he's the worst owner in the NHL and no one wants HIS money.

I give Wang credit for keeping the Isles on LI in 2000. But now, if he wants to save the franchise, he must SELL it. He and his name are toxic in the NHL. We will not be able to bring in quality FAs or even front office talent while he owns the team. If he loves the Islanders and its fans, he MUST sell.

I'd have to disagree and Buffalo showed that with the signings they were able to make, while being the undisputed worst team all of last season.

Can the argument be made that we overpaid somewhat, yes, though not along the lines of Orpik to the Caps.....I would say our overpay amounts were pretty modest.

The question I have for the Islanders is that are the additions made(assuming this is mostly it) enough to get out of the lottery and maybe contend for a playoff spot. Maybe I'm wrong(and I'm not trolling) but I just don't see it. Nabokov was good, that will help but it looks like it's really going to be up to the rookies/kids to start stepping it up..... That'll be the decider in my opinion
- nikel

free agency is 1 day old...we have 100 days till opening night...well discuss this at that point. thanks for stopping by

Being a Rangers fan here on Long Island, I see and know may Islander fans. In fact my girlfriend is one of them. I have had many battles with Isles fans, but I respect them because they do have some true loyal fans who have stuck around through this mess. I think this article was well written and is right on the money. Think about other teams that are in the same boat - Winnipeg, Phoenix/Arizona, Calgary, and now Toronto apparently. People are tired of going to franchises that continue to have losing seasons. Hence why these teams struggle to sign players on the first day of free agency.....unless you overpay people like teams like Florida and Edmonton did. It was interesting to read Art Staple reporting that Isles did reach out to players such as Vanek, Iginla, Richards and Dan Boyle, but they should have also been looking into someone younger like Paul Statsny. How nice would he, at his age, been a great player on this team? You want take a gamble? Throw a few bucks at Dany Heatley for you probably can get him on the cheap side and he knows how to put the puck in the net. Take a chance on Del Zotto. He has shown flashes in the past to be offensive and he has played with Tavares before. You need some defenseman with NHL experience, but you do also need defensive defensemen.

Charles Wang needs to sell the team. His biggest flaw was believing in an unproven GM like Snow WAY TOO LONG! Let someone come in who can address and fix the issues.

Snow needs to go. He is not an attractive GM and he has done very little in improving this team over the years. Yes, he has made some nice take-a-chance signings like Moulson, Parenteau, Grabner, etc., but you can't get away with these types of signings every year with the hope they will turn into stars. You could have brought back Moulson for a million-per-year. A player that never wanted to leave, liked it here and played well with your top superstar, who now has a missing link. But you thought that was too much. That's so stupid. You need scoring and he can help, but let's just ink 4th liners instead. Snow did solidify the goaltending, but you still need veteran leadership, defense and goal scoring. That's still a lot to find. Sorry man, your time was up years ago. Bring in a well-named GM who can attract some big names like Yzerman is doing in Tampa right now.

Capuano should have a short leash. He is liked by his players, but my question is you took this team and drove them into the playoffs two seasons ago. You pretty much had the same team last year with a few tweaks. How come you couldn't get the same message across to this team that saw too many underachievers? If this team starts off on a bad note this season, you need to look for an experienced, perhaps a little more disciplined coach. Enough with the rookie NHL coaching experiments.

Tavares will be requesting a trade soon if he sees no improvements. He is a top NHL star in my mind that every team would want. As much as they need to show some respect to him, show some respect to the loyal fans who have suffered so much over the years (excluding the second half two years ago with the playoff run). Figure it out and get it done. You can't go into Brooklyn looking like the same ol', same ol' and expect miracles when you get there.

Do SOMETHING!

So let me ask a question....Let's say that on May 1st, Charles Wang fired Garth Snow and hired Darcy Reiger (sp?). He has two months to get acclimated for July 1st.

Fast forward to July 1st. He calls Vanek, Boyle and Richards. Are you telling me that these guys sign? I'm not sure what else Garth can do? He offered more money to several players and they said now. Should he have offered Vanek 9 million for 7 years? We cursed his predecessor for doing that to Yashin?

I'm honestly asking for answers cause I just don't understand what people think should happen. You think this changes really if Wang sells the team?

What a bunch of $#!+ that article was. Dee- you really don't know what the problem is? That probably is true since you wrote in that article that "Garth won't be taken advantage of" and that "Wang won't overpay". Their track records state otherwise...Mouslon & Vanek trades, Yashin and DiPietro contracts...but why not overlook the obvious. This will be the last year for your blog box access so you certainly don't want to rock that boat do you.

More BS from the Islanders unpaid intern for life= Dee.

There is a reason why no one will sign here and it isn't because Garth is offering great deals and players are saying no. It is because the Islanders are offering Wang's money and after 15 years of ownership, he's the worst owner in the NHL and no one wants HIS money.

I give Wang credit for keeping the Isles on LI in 2000. But now, if he wants to save the franchise, he must SELL it. He and his name are toxic in the NHL. We will not be able to bring in quality FAs or even front office talent while he owns the team. If he loves the Islanders and its fans, he MUST sell.
- islander4cups

stop crying its embarrassing...if the islanders start winning, people will start signing. it really is that simple.

So let me ask a question....Let's say that on May 1st, Charles Wang fired Garth Snow and hired Darcy Reiger (sp?). He has two months to get acclimated for July 1st.

Fast forward to July 1st. He calls Vanek, Boyle and Richards. Are you telling me that these guys sign? I'm not sure what else Garth can do? He offered more money to several players and they said now. Should he have offered Vanek 9 million for 7 years? We cursed his predecessor for doing that to Yashin?

I'm honestly asking for answers cause I just don't understand what people think should happen. You think this changes really if Wang sells the team?
- clebo99

There is a very good chance things change if Charles sells the team. A new owner brings in a new sense of hope and may have the top FA's giving the Isles a new look. There were reports Barroway was going to bring in top people to run the show and stay out of the way. Nothing is 100% for sure and until a new owner comes in we will not know.

free agency is 1 day old...we have 100 days till opening night...well discuss this at that point. thanks for stopping by
- LetsGoIsles[/

Ok.....point taken, but how many difference makers would you say are going to be left in the FA pool past the next few days?

So let me ask a question....Let's say that on May 1st, Charles Wang fired Garth Snow and hired Darcy Reiger (sp?). He has two months to get acclimated for July 1st.

Fast forward to July 1st. He calls Vanek, Boyle and Richards. Are you telling me that these guys sign? I'm not sure what else Garth can do? He offered more money to several players and they said now. Should he have offered Vanek 9 million for 7 years? We cursed his predecessor for doing that to Yashin?

I'm honestly asking for answers cause I just don't understand what people think should happen. You think this changes really if Wang sells the team?
- clebo99

Tim Murray got the kind of vets to sign in Buffalo that always pass on Buffalo come July 1st. He also got a well-respected defenseman to waive a no-trade to come to Buffalo He also deftly dealt with expiring assets, and re-stocked the cupboard with prospects and picks. A new GM can do wonders for a team...especially one with the stigma facing the Isles.

[quote=LetsGoIsles]free agency is 1 day old...we have 100 days till opening night...well discuss this at that point. thanks for stopping by
- nikel[/

Ok.....point taken, but how many difference makers would you say are going to be left in the FA pool past the next few days?

not many...but how many teams will be over the cap? how many teams will also need players to fill positions? there can certainly be trades...im not overly concerned...yet

So is what you are saying that the deep holes were indeed not filled?

Dee Karl: Why No Us?
Lots of Reasons
- Dee Karl

So let me ask a question....Let's say that on May 1st, Charles Wang fired Garth Snow and hired Darcy Reiger (sp?). He has two months to get acclimated for July 1st.

Fast forward to July 1st. He calls Vanek, Boyle and Richards. Are you telling me that these guys sign? I'm not sure what else Garth can do? He offered more money to several players and they said now. Should he have offered Vanek 9 million for 7 years? We cursed his predecessor for doing that to Yashin?

I'm honestly asking for answers cause I just don't understand what people think should happen. You think this changes really if Wang sells the team?
- clebo99

They can't sign the top UFA's. The perfect blueprint for the Islanders to follow is what Jim Nill has done in the last 2 years with Dallas. Instead of overspending on free agents, he goes the trade route...think Tyler Seguin type player that has a long term deal in place. Its a hell of a lot easier said than done but the Isles have assets that probably should be traded for talent that can win now and for years to come, instead of waiting 4 years from now especially with the move to Brooklyn.

So is what you are saying that the deep holes were indeed not filled?
- smellmyfinger

1) could yesterdays title been any more appropriate for this guy?
2) you already made this joke and no one commented for a reason...let it go.

Being a Rangers fan here on Long Island, I see and know may Islander fans. In fact my girlfriend is one of them. I have had many battles with Isles fans, but I respect them because they do have some true loyal fans who have stuck around through this mess. I think this article was well written and is right on the money. Think about other teams that are in the same boat - Winnipeg, Phoenix/Arizona, Calgary, and now Toronto apparently. People are tired of going to franchises that continue to have losing seasons. Hence why these teams struggle to sign players on the first day of free agency.....unless you overpay people like teams like Florida and Edmonton did. It was interesting to read Art Staple reporting that Isles did reach out to players such as Vanek, Iginla, Richards and Dan Boyle, but they should have also been looking into someone younger like Paul Statsny. How nice would he, at his age, been a great player on this team? You want take a gamble? Throw a few bucks at Dany Heatley for you probably can get him on the cheap side and he knows how to put the puck in the net. Take a chance on Del Zotto. He has shown flashes in the past to be offensive and he has played with Tavares before. You need some defenseman with NHL experience, but you do also need defensive defensemen.

Charles Wang needs to sell the team. His biggest flaw was believing in an unproven GM like Snow WAY TOO LONG! Let someone come in who can address and fix the issues.

Snow needs to go. He is not an attractive GM and he has done very little in improving this team over the years. Yes, he has made some nice take-a-chance signings like Moulson, Parenteau, Grabner, etc., but you can't get away with these types of signings every year with the hope they will turn into stars. You could have brought back Moulson for a million-per-year. A player that never wanted to leave, liked it here and played well with your top superstar, who now has a missing link. But you thought that was too much. That's so stupid. You need scoring and he can help, but let's just ink 4th liners instead. Snow did solidify the goaltending, but you still need veteran leadership, defense and goal scoring. That's still a lot to find. Sorry man, your time was up years ago. Bring in a well-named GM who can attract some big names like Yzerman is doing in Tampa right now.

Capuano should have a short leash. He is liked by his players, but my question is you took this team and drove them into the playoffs two seasons ago. You pretty much had the same team last year with a few tweaks. How come you couldn't get the same message across to this team that saw too many underachievers? If this team starts off on a bad note this season, you need to look for an experienced, perhaps a little more disciplined coach. Enough with the rookie NHL coaching experiments.

Tavares will be requesting a trade soon if he sees no improvements. He is a top NHL star in my mind that every team would want. As much as they need to show some respect to him, show some respect to the loyal fans who have suffered so much over the years (excluding the second half two years ago with the playoff run). Figure it out and get it done. You can't go into Brooklyn looking like the same ol', same ol' and expect miracles when you get there.

Do SOMETHING!
- musicnutz

Exactly. Snow has done a "decent" job replenishing prospect pool and finding a couple of gems Grabner, Moulson etc... But he hasn't had the ability to take the team to the next level. I'm for one very disappointed he hasn't been able to get that veteran defenseman and top six forward yet. He did plug a big hole in goal. They have one of the best hockey players in the world and still can't attract players to play here. You right i think getting someone as GM with star power/talent would do it. Like Dee mentioned losing for 20 something years doesn't help as well. I still think they have the potential to make playoffs next year....i might have my did hard fan goggles on

It seems the Sablanders are seeing separation between a rising Sabres and a falling Islanders. Why? The new GM in Buffalo. It is amazing that the Sabres still suck but everyone is so optimisitic because we now have Tim Murray running the show. A littel advice - get rid of Snow.
- FieldOfGreen

Rising sabres? Really? Prospects do not make a team. When and if they turn out you will have a point.

1) could yesterdays title been any more appropriate for this guy?
2) you already made this joke and no one commented for a reason...let it go.
- LetsGoIsles

Couldn't help myself. Especially when the following days title is "Why no us"

They can't sign the top UFA's. The perfect blueprint for the Islanders to follow is what Jim Nill has done in the last 2 years with Dallas. Instead of overspending on free agents, he goes the trade route...think Tyler Seguin type player that has a long term deal in place. Its a hell of a lot easier said than done but the Isles have assets that probably should be traded for talent that can win now and for years to come, instead of waiting 4 years from now especially with the move to Brooklyn.
- wheresthesoda

I don't disagree...but we do have a great stockpile of up and comers its almost like we want to wait for that. Do we trade Bailey and Donovan for Phaneuff? Again, the last time we did these kinds of things with Yashin and Peca we apparently got fleeced because Spezza became who he did and so did Chara.

I don't disagree...but we do have a great stockpile of up and comers its almost like we want to wait for that. Do we trade Bailey and Donovan for Phaneuff? Again, the last time we did these kinds of things with Yashin and Peca we apparently got fleeced because Spezza became who he did and so did Chara.
- clebo99

I'm all for not trading all the prospects, but we also do not want to throw them to the wolves without quality vet players for support.

Couldn't help myself. Especially when the following days title is "Why no us"
- smellmyfinger

I think that guy might be Garth Snow and he's really upset that he trades picks for players rights than offer them more money and an additional year only to go to there rival

I don't disagree...but we do have a great stockpile of up and comers its almost like we want to wait for that. Do we trade Bailey and Donovan for Phaneuff? Again, the last time we did these kinds of things with Yashin and Peca we apparently got fleeced because Spezza became who he did and so did Chara.
- clebo99

Your also mentioning a time when the Islanders were a consistent playoff team

I think that guy might be Garth Snow and he's really upset that he trades picks for players rights than offer them more money and an additional year only to go to there rival
- wheresthesoda

ohhh you....so upset that you had one of the silliest posts ive seen throughout the past 2 days:

I think Garth Snow should be relieved of his duties. This started to become apparent when he signed Dipietro to that ridiculous deal

wasnt garth; wang has taken credit(?) for that signing

but he has continued to make mistakes by going after Ryan Smythe when it was apparent there was no way he was going to re-sign with them.

remind me who they traded for the guy? and where did the islanders finish that year? worth the risk.

But the worst was the Vanek trade because Moulson is a pretty damn good player that would have stayed with the Islanders if Snow didn't burn that bridge.

most people agree that the way the vanek deal worked out, it wasnt a good deal, but it has nothing to do with moulson; that guy quite simply isnt good and 5 for $25 is a joke!! sabres will regret that. bank on it.

Snow is one of the main reasons the islanders rarely make the playoffs
- wheresthesoda

he legit started from zero, had another GM been here, do i think he might have done things a little quicker? ya probably. what it have been a significant difference? i dont think so.