giving up 0 assets.

great work. each player is paid within .5 million as they should be.
- big_dion

now we know why grabo wasnt signed right away..agent had to work out a deal for both players... the nobody wants him arguments were great

As soon as their kids are ready he is gone probably through buyout. He is brutal in his own end, how any of you missed the blatant giveaways is beyond me, the gifts he gave the Bruins in the playoffs should have sounded the warning bell to all watching, well it did, he was bought out.
- LeafMan

lou its simple, how you dont see it is beyond me.

randy and grabo hated eachother, end of story.

now we know why grabo wasnt signed right away..agent had to work out a deal for both players... the nobody wants him arguments were great
- senstroll

exactly.. its pretty obvious now that him and kuli wanted to play together

Don't lick off all the windex ...

Save some for the other people on the short bus !


- .HOHO.

next time you post, try to hit puberty before hitting submit

I would like to see where he was before the team collapse.

I would like to see how his partners compared to the other guys' partners.

I would like to see what the other 30 #1 d-men would get in a contract signed today.

... and I don't like Phaneuf and would be more than happy to see him gone.
- Aetherial

Collapses, I count three now going back to pre-playoffs, are on his watch. That doesn't improve his value/worth.

There's a few all-star duos out there (Piet/Bouw, Keith/Seabrook), but lionshare of #1 Ds out there make their partner's better.

The dollar's not the problem, its that he's the worst of the league's highest paid defensemen.

Agree with you on that front with regards to him leaving, but the alternative, notwithstanding Rielly or Gardiner stepping into that role, leaves little to be desired.

he was being used in a defensive shut down role.. which was stupid on carlyle's part.

grabo is a pure offense forward.. just one of those euros

you pair a guy like that with responsible wingers with some offensive upside and you got a good solid second line.

but try to use grabo as a checking centre? thats on the coach.
- Dozzer

He is gone and that is all that matters, he is an average player nothing more but is a great ice cleaner though being on his ass all game, I will give him that.

He is gone and that is all that matters, he is an average player nothing more but is a great ice cleaner though being on his ass all game, I will give him that.
- LeafMan

dont worry lou we have frattin back leafs will be top 5 for sure.

Collapses, I count three now going back to pre-playoffs, are on his watch. That doesn't improve his value/worth.

There's a few all-star duos out there (Piet/Bouw, Keith/Seabrook), but lionshare of #1 Ds out there make their partner's better.

The dollar's not the problem, its that he's the worst of the league's highest paid defensemen.

Agree with you on that front with regards to him leaving, but the alternative, notwithstanding Rielly or Gardiner stepping into that role, leaves little to be desired.
- gravyface

Oh yeah, we're f'd. I was just defending the fact that people seem to think he is a horrible hockey player and way overpaid. He isn't, on either count.

You want to change the culture... fire Carlyle and get rid of Phaneuf. I don't think we get a better player in return, but it sure as hell isn't working with Phaneuf here so why continue down that road? This is the arguement I made before they signed him.

Rudy Gay was the best player in the trade the Raptors made and the turn around in that team's attitude and effort was instantaneous.

Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl 59s
Isles fans, when you look at Kulemin, think about the system he was in last season. Now look at the success he had playing with Grabovski.

Of course you would...





...now that Kulemin is gone
- Pecafan Fan

kulemin scored 30 in 1 season, it may never happen again.

but i'd be suprised to see Komarov score 30 goals in his NHL career.

Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl 59s
Isles fans, when you look at Kulemin, think about the system he was in last season. Now look at the success he had playing with Grabovski.
- gravyface

im interested to see who they toss on the wing there. grabo can play wing now too so could be interesting - maybe grabner

kulemin scored 30 in 1 season, it may never happen again.

but i'd be suprised to see Komarov score 30 goals in his NHL career.
- big_dion

Man how the (frank) did Kulemin score 30 goals.

Thats I'll I take away from this.

Oh yeah, we're f'd. I was just defending the fact that people seem to think he is a horrible hockey player and way overpaid. He isn't, on either count.

You want to change the culture... fire Carlyle and get rid of Phaneuf. I don't think we get a better player in return, but it sure as hell isn't working with Phaneuf here so why continue down that road? This is the arguement I made before they signed him.

Rudy Gay was the best player in the trade the Raptors made and the turn around in that team's attitude and effort was instantaneous.
- Aetherial

You know what?

The Phaneuf situation reminds me a lot of Koivu.
He was loved by some, but hated by others. He wasn't a #1 Center, but was slotted in that position because the team had no one better to play at that position. He never won anything but his teams were mediocre at best.

Man how the (frank) did Kulemin score 30 goals.

Thats I'll I take away from this.
- Leafland

grabovski

Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl 59s
Isles fans, when you look at Kulemin, think about the system he was in last season. Now look at the success he had playing with Grabovski.
- gravyface

He's had what...25 goals the past 3 seasons combined?

Oh yeah, we're f'd. I was just defending the fact that people seem to think he is a horrible hockey player and way overpaid. He isn't, on either count.

You want to change the culture... fire Carlyle and get rid of Phaneuf. I don't think we get a better player in return, but it sure as hell isn't working with Phaneuf here so why continue down that road? This is the arguement I made before they signed him.

Rudy Gay was the best player in the trade the Raptors made and the turn around in that teams attitude and effort was instantaneous.
- Aetherial

I have a feeling that if Leafs are out of the playoff picture come March, this indeed will happen, at least RC and Nonis will be gone. I have no doubt that Shanny is looking for assitant coaches that can step in (Tony Granato) and take over the helm if need be.

He's had what...25 goals the past 3 seasons combined?
- Gunslinger

He played quite a bit with Lupul and Kadri as well.

next time you post, try to hit puberty before hitting submit
- big_dion

So says the guy that spends his day on HB sucking off Grabovski

Piss off

You know what?

The Phaneuf situation reminds me a lot of Koivu.
He was loved by some, but hated by others. He wasn't a #1 Center, but was slotted in that position because the team had no one better to play at that position. He never won anything but his teams were mediocre at best.
- Pecafan Fan

give dion help
dion get better

caveman fist pump chest ***

I have a feeling that if Leafs are out of the playoff picture come March, this indeed will happen, at least RC and Nonis will be gone. I have no doubt that Shanny is looking for assitant coaches that can step in (Tony Granato) and take over the helm if need be.
- gravyface

But we got Frattin back?

He played quite a bit with Lupul and Kadri as well.
- LeafMan

yep, because clarkson 5.5 is a joke.

give dion help
dion get better

caveman fist pump chest ***
- big_dion

Exactly.

He's had what...25 goals the past 3 seasons combined?
- Gunslinger

Playing PK and 3rd line minutes mostly.

I would've rather we put Kulemin on the wing and passed on Clarkson: the latter is a good Taranna boy, but their output is really not much different when you put ice-time and linemates into perspective.

grabovski
- big_dion

Praise be.

So says the guy that spends his day on HB sucking off Grabovski

Piss off
- .HOHO.

maybe you need another laughing emoticon in that post to get the point across