- Pecafan Fan

Oh come on, there is no way I would be fooled into believing this was a female cop... the jaw is too square.

Carlyle hated him and he was pushed to #3 centre.
- RogerRoeper

Yeah I know....same reason I can see Kadri not lasting. Hence, I think we should parlay him into Patrick Sharp now if we can.

now i'm gonna have to watch the rant again because i miss it. I hope we hear more of this again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg76F_5uitY
- ash146

Haha, it's AWESOME

People still moaning about losing Grabovski, unreal.
- LeafMan

Sorry I'm bitter.

but can't you see how wrong he proved me? he proved we got so much better.
- clark_griswold

Can I try?, I live my life through anonymous interweb users approval..its a moral thing ive been trying lately

People still moaning about losing Grabovski, unreal.
- LeafMan

I miss Clark, but I am not moaning about it.. And it is person. Mostly.

There were at least 10 worse turnover machines on the team......
- Phenom

did you get that from watching the games?

Oh come on, there is no way I would be fooled into believing this was a female cop... the jaw is too square.
- Aetherial

Dosnt matter , you still check

rule 1 - better to be safe than sorry

Noodles also specifically asked about the specific toughness on the 4th line, and that's when Nonis essentially said we can't just have that. We have it coming up in the Marlies (referenced Broll) but there needs to be more than just toughness.

Basically Orr is going to scratched or buried for most of the season.

People still moaning about losing Grabovski, unreal.
- LeafMan

Yep...

Sorry I'm bitter.
- Phenom

He is nothing to be bitter about, he wasn't all that good in any role.

People still moaning about losing Grabovski, unreal.
- LeafMan

Someone whined about Jason Blake just last week.

The leafs are definitely tanking this season.

Bring back Komorov. Not a bad move. Not significant though.

Gunnarson for Polak won't change anything drastic.

We know what we got with Frattin. Nothing to rave about.

Robidas is a 37 year old coming off a broken leg on a three year contract when the leafs are no where near a contender yet. Terrible signing.

So in all the leafs pretty much did nothing after proclaiming big changes were coming.
Our top two lines remain unchanged with no number 1 center and we still don't have a top pairing D to play with Dion.

So far this is not a very good off season and leaf fans can expect much of the same in terms of results for next season. So the only explanation I can come up with is we're tanking and that big Culture Change management ranted about is still nowhere to be seen.

People still moaning about losing Grabovski, unreal.
- LeafMan

amazing really. Guy that no other GM wants yet he is just passed over (the GMs don't know what they are doing). The hockeybuzz crowd is right on grabo.

did you get that from watching the games?
- senstroll

Mostly.

People still moaning about losing Grabovski, unreal.
- LeafMan

I think its more to do with our GM/Coach who continually talk about compete ... and they misused and bought out a strong "compete" player who fought and possessed the puck..

so the 2nd year in a row they are fixing the compete

Go leafs!

Someone whined about Jason Blake just last week.
- Not_Stee

Hes still my burn I use on people who puck hog playing puck


"(frank)ing pass Jason Blake"
"nice grade school wrister from the blue line Jason Blake"

amazing really. Guy that no other GM wants yet he is just passed over (the GMs don't know what they are doing). The hockeybuzz crowd is right on grabo.
- clark_griswold

Can't forget, last 2 gm's to sign Grabovski were fired less than 12 months after signing him.

He is nothing to be bitter about, he wasn't all that good in any role.
- LeafMan

Maybe I got the ole Leaf blinders on....but I liked him. I think he had what it takes to be part of a championship team....if used correctly. He was a beast against Boston.

Maybe I got the ole Leaf blinders on....but I liked him. I think he had what it takes to be part of a championship team....if used correctly. He was a beast against Boston.
- Phenom

He wasnt a beast, he just wasnt a baby about getting flattened, one thing about him his he takes a (frank)ing poop kicking and always gets back up

Maybe I got the ole Leaf blinders on....but I liked him. I think he had what it takes to be part of a championship team....if used correctly. He was a beast against Boston.
- Phenom

Beast as in he was on the ice for most of the goals against? He is gone and thankfully won't be back.

amazing really. Guy that no other GM wants yet he is just passed over (the GMs don't know what they are doing). The hockeybuzz crowd is right on grabo.
- clark_griswold

Grabo is still getting paid by the leafs... he can sit and wait again for a good deal.
whats the rush..the leafs are paying him to play against them

and for the record.. I think some guys on the internet could run and NHL team better than Nonis.

The leafs are definitely tanking this season.

Bring back Komorov. Not a bad move. Not significant though.

Gunnarson for Polak won't change anything drastic.

We know what we got with Frattin. Nothing to rave about.

Robidas is a 37 year old coming off a broken leg on a three year contract when the leafs are no where near a contender yet. Terrible signing.

So in all the leafs pretty much did nothing after proclaiming big changes were coming.
Our top two lines remain unchanged with no number 1 center and we still don't have a top pairing D to play with Dion.

So far this is not a very good off season and leaf fans can expect much of the same in terms of results for next season. So the only explanation I can come up with is we're tanking and that big Culture Change management ranted about is still nowhere to be seen.
- davecervo

we're not even tanking, that's why im baffled. if you are tanking you don't sign komarov for 3 mil (that eats up cap space for when you are good). Also, you don't sign robidas for 3 years at $3 - you sign him for 1 at big $ so you can move him at the deadline. You also move Dion for anything to get worse (while you can - at the draft).

Big changes mean "let's get some guys from the past" apparently. I was optimistic with the $3 mil cleared up from the gleason buyout; instead we go status quo with Robidas (who is pretty similar to Gleason).

I have no idea what Nonis is trying to do and doubt he does. If you don't fire the coach, you change the roster. He did neither other than tinker.

we're not even tanking, that's why im baffled. if you are tanking you don't sign komarov for 3 mil (that eats up cap space for when you are good). Also, you don't sign robidas for 3 years at $3 - you sign him for 1 at big $ so you can move him at the deadline. You also move Dion for anything to get worse (while you can - at the draft).

Big changes mean "let's get some guys from the past" apparently. I was optimistic with the $3 mil cleared up from the gleason buyout; instead we go status quo with Robidas (who is pretty similar to Gleason).

I have no idea what Nonis is trying to do and doubt he does. If you don't fire the coach, you change the roster. He did neither other than tinker.
- clark_griswold

then you dont sign anyone...you overpay to acquire at FA day..those are reasonable rates your numbers or deals would end up with NOBODY

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