Not sure what people expected of him but he def was one of our better players last postseason. IMO he was everything TK should have been but never was. Even as a 13th, Id rather him than Adams. Problem is he is UFA and Megna is RFA and they are effectively fighting for the same spot.
- Rawdog9755

This is only a problem if Gibbons is dead set on a one way deal, which I think someone would offer him. Anyways, as much as I like Gibby on the 4th and the PK, give me Megna. Our top 6 prospect pool is nonexistent and he's the only thing we have that's close.

Megna is fine. Gibbons too.

Gibbons won't be around much longer. He's an UFA and now that the dust is beginning to settle, someone's going to make a pitch to him and hope he's their poor man's Zuccarello.
- coohill

its what I am afraid of. I'd give him the 1 way deal if I was the pens.

The idea of a Kane-Crosby-Hornqvist, Kunitz-Malkin-Kulemin top 6 has me a little excited. Would make the Pens very hard to play against, without losing their scoring ability.

That was from the playoffs this year as well.
- Ryan_Wilson

What if we are able to deal Adams as the extra bonus in a deal involving Martin/Sutter/Skuds (yes, im keeping hopeful on Skuds going). Then we can keep Megna and Gibbons with the one being that extra forward spot.

That have any chance whatsoever of Adams being padded onto a deal? Or just an out there idea by me -_-

The idea of a Kane-Crosby-Hornqvist, Kunitz-Malkin-Kulemin top 6 has me a little excited. Would make the Pens very hard to play against, without losing their scoring ability.
- cap1681

Ixnay Kulemin and add Bennett and I'm extremely happy. No need to pay Kulemin if we get Kane.

Christ, the infatuation with a major character issue in E Kane is amazing here. Great young player, no doubt. Again, Mario sent Neal out of town due to character issues but want Kane? Four good assets for him is terrible asset management. Last time I checked, our farm system could use some good prospects and picks to help make up for our former GM's failures.

Martin, Sutter, Despres and a 1st for Kane is utterly ridiculous. That is three players that would fill roles in our lineup for one and two of those are on defense. Makes lousy sense.

Pens need to lock up Gibbons. Versatile player who brings more to the table than Adams and Megna.

I'm not sold on moving Sutter, but if you move him I would like to see a package deal with Martin for something bigger, maybe Patrick Marleau and a high pick.

Ixnay Kulemin and add Bennett and I'm extremely happy. No need to pay Kulemin if we get Kane.
- Victoro311

Bennett is too much of a question mark. Kulemin brings a two way game that will mesh well with Malkin. He's big, physical, and has an offensive upside that wasn't utilized in Toronto.

Christ, the infatuation with a major character issue in E Kane is amazing here. Great young player, no doubt. Again, Mario sent Neal out of town due to character issues but want Kane? Four good assets for him is terrible asset management. Last time I checked, our farm system could use some good prospects and picks to help make up for our former GM's failures.

Martin, Sutter, Despres and a 1st for Kane is utterly ridiculous. That is three players that would fill roles in our lineup for one and two of those are on defense. Makes lousy sense.
- Oneonta Penguin

It is pretty rich that you of all people rail on others for character issues.

Brandon Sutter proved to be more than an average third line player once he was given some competent wingers. Ryan Kesler would have struggled with Pyatt and Glass, or Megna on his wing. I guess he would be average too. Disagree with the average comment. He isn't great, but he isn't average with right material with him. If Sutter is average, I guess our third and fourth line players suck.

It is pretty rich that you of all people rail on others for character issues.
- Ryan_Wilson

Ryan... shhhhh... you can't use logic in an internet debate. Havn't you learned this by now?

Anyways, as much as I like Gibby on the 4th and the PK, give me Megna. Our top 6 prospect pool is nonexistent and he's the only thing we have that's close.
- Victoro311

Megna is not a top 6 talent.

The closest guys in the system with top six potential (besides Kapanen) are Dea and Sundqvist. Dea will be in his first year at WBS, Sundqvist is looking at one more year in Sweden. The size that Sundqvist would add helps, though he is a natural center.

Bennett is too much of a question mark. Kulemin brings a two way game that will mesh well with Malkin. He's big, physical, and has an offensive upside that wasn't utilized in Toronto.
- cap1681

My not being sold on Kulemin aside, right now we have one gaping hole in our top 6 and a question mark in Bennett. The plan right now is to fill that gaping hole with Kulemin, a move that can only be made possible cap wise with a move or having one of our RFA (Sutter) agree to a deal that he probably won't find favorable. That's fine. Not my ideal but fine.

If we trade for Kane we fill that gaping hole and maintain the cap situation that we have right now. This is the same cap situation that's making signing Kulemin tough. I think we'd be better off going with the question mark and the cap relief than moving mountains to sign a middling talent with the same to less upside as Beau.

It is pretty rich that you of all people rail on others for character issues.
- Ryan_Wilson

Pretty ignorant of you to continue to say black athletes with an exuberant personality must have character issues too. I think Kane has a problem and it has been reported by various people too. I guess they are lying? Got it.

Christ, the infatuation with a major character issue in E Kane is amazing here. Great young player, no doubt. Again, Mario sent Neal out of town due to character issues but want Kane? Four good assets for him is terrible asset management. Last time I checked, our farm system could use some good prospects and picks to help make up for our former GM's failures.

Martin, Sutter, Despres and a 1st for Kane is utterly ridiculous. That is three players that would fill roles in our lineup for one and two of those are on defense. Makes lousy sense.
- Oneonta Penguin

Err, it seems to me that others are infatuated with the hockey ability of E Kane, and you're the one caught up on his "major character issues".

Pretty ignorant of you to continue to say black athletes with an exuberant personality must have character issues too. I think Kane has a problem and it has been reported by various people too. I guess they are lying? Got it.
- Oneonta Penguin

I don't think that's what he was saying, but whatever floats your boat Hoss.

Err, it seems to me that others are infatuated with the hockey ability of E Kane, and you're the one caught up on his "major character issues".
- BulliesPhan87

I'm also caught up in the shortcomings of our roster AND our farm system. Trading four assets for Evander Kane is absolutely dumb.

Megna is not a top 6 talent.

The closest guys in the system with top six potential (besides Kapanen) are Dea and Sundqvist. Dea will be in his first year at WBS, Sundqvist is looking at one more year in Sweden. The size that Sundqvist would add helps, though he is a natural center.
- hardnosed

Sorry. Let me clarify. I meant immediately. Dea, Sundqvist, and Kapanen are years away. If we get into a pinch and we need to insert a guy in house to our top 6 those three guys will not be called upon.

My not being sold on Kulemin aside, right now we have one gaping hole in our top 6 and a question mark in Bennett. The plan right now is to fill that gaping hole with Kulemin, a move that can only be made possible cap wise with a move or having one of our RFA (Sutter) agree to a deal that he probably won't find favorable. That's fine. Not my ideal but fine.

If we trade for Kane we fill that gaping hole and maintain the cap situation that we have right now. This is the same cap situation that's making signing Kulemin tough. I think we'd be better off going with the question mark and the cap relief than moving mountains to sign a middling talent with the same to less upside as Beau.
- Victoro311

The Pens would actually get some cap relief in the Kane trade discussed. Trading Martin (5M) and Sutter (3+M) for Kane (5.25M) would leave enough money for Kulemin.

Err, it seems to me that others are infatuated with the hockey ability of E Kane, and you're the one caught up on his "major character issues".
- BulliesPhan87

I just want him cheaper than Martin, Sutter, and a 1st... as in, Martin, Sutter, and a kicker.

I'm also caught up in the shortcomings of our roster AND our farm system. Trading four assets for Evander Kane is absolutely dumb.
- Oneonta Penguin

For a second, I'd like to de-escalate the trash talk (or at least put this as an aside to it) and ask a serious question: how far are you willing to go to rebuild to pipeline? Would you sacrifice years of Malkin and Crosby's prime to have a stronger farm for tomorrow?

I just want him cheaper than Martin, Sutter, and a 1st... as in, Martin, Sutter, and a kicker.
- Guile

What about Despres instead of that 1st?

Pretty ignorant of you to continue to say black athletes with an exuberant personality must have character issues too. I think Kane has a problem and it has been reported by various people too. I guess they are lying? Got it.
- Oneonta Penguin

I agree 100%. I have no clue what Kane's character is like, to me that's a non factor. But I do know that he is a top F talent in the league buried in the Peg. Bringing him to Pitt would be nice and all, but when you have Kane, 87, 71 that's a lot of chiefs and type A's which usually doesn't work well. See the AV's team that had Sakic, Forsberg, Kariya, Teemu.

If 87 can make Dupes a top wing, Kane is not necessary. I think there are better/cheaper options out there we are not considering.

What about Despres instead of that 1st?
- BulliesPhan87

The only reason I don't think that would happen, is a team would be taking Martin, with 1 year left, and 2 RFAs... seems like risky deal for them to take. I assume they'd want a different prospect as a kicker, or a 2nd or 3rd round pick (in how I value Kane).