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errey12
Joined: 01.16.2008

Jul 2 @ 2:44 PM ET
Now Ek has us in on Grabovski.....
- cap1681


Had read somewhere two days ago that Grabovski and Kulemin were looking to go somewhere together.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 2 @ 2:44 PM ET
if it had any reality, its a russian to play malkins wing and add more versitility. OR

OR

Top line
Kunitz-Crosby-Malkin
?-Grabowski-PH

ow bout dem apples

- ChrisMS



I will counter your russian, with German...

Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 2 @ 2:45 PM ET
Ryan is gonna have the same reaction bartley did to Downie!
- ChrisMS


Is this the right time to bring up Mike Ribeiro?

Edit: And no, I don't see a fit for Grabovski in Pittsburgh.
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 2 @ 2:45 PM ET
Molinari said that Downie has been working out this offseason with Gary Roberts.........
- cap1681

Dear god...Downie is going to murder someone.
Thorny
Location: OH
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 2 @ 2:45 PM ET
I wasn't banging the drum, just quelling the idea that Despres was some kind of polished finished product that made the Penguins significantly better.

Despres getting the chance to dominate (finally) in the AHL during the playoffs was more meaningful than 10 meaningless late season games would have been.

- hardnosed



yeah, playing 10 NHL level games isn't better than 10 AHL games. He still would have been able to play in the playoffs in the AHL.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jul 2 @ 2:46 PM ET
if it had any reality, its a russian to play malkins wing and add more versitility. OR

OR

Top line
Kunitz-Crosby-Malkin
?-Grabowski-PH

ow bout dem apples

- ChrisMS


Grabo is not coming with out kuli... it was reported before July 1st they wanted to go to same team...

Also in Maddens article he says we have 11 nhl ready D... geez
Ledgermain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Not Phoenix
Joined: 05.30.2013

Jul 2 @ 2:46 PM ET
Dear god...Downie is going to murder someone.
- 87_71_11_29


Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 2 @ 2:46 PM ET
Is this the right time to bring up Mike Ribeiro?
- Ryan_Wilson


Pretty sure you can't bring up anything worse than the handful Giroux did
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 2 @ 2:47 PM ET
can grabo play wing?

kuni - sid - dupuis/bennett
hornqvist - malkin - grabo
downie - sutter - bennett/dupuis
spaling - goc - comeau
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 2 @ 2:48 PM ET
can grabo play wing?

kuni-sid-dupuis/bennett
hornqvist/malkin-grabo
downie-sutter-bennett/dupuis
spaling-goc-comeau

- drummer829



If we somehow get Grabo, we also get Kuli... and Sutter would be out. Also would need Martin salary dumped, or Skuds dumped.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 2 @ 2:50 PM ET
Is this the right time to bring up Mike Ribeiro?
- Ryan_Wilson


he did outscore grabovski. Ironically though. I thought Grabvoski was gonna be the poor lockerroom guy after gm's stayed clear of him. turns out the reason I thought grabvoski was such a poor pick up is what got robiero canned. I took that one on the chin
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 2 @ 2:50 PM ET
Grabovski was asking for 5 years and 25M from Washington. They should have done it and not signed Orpik. I can't imagine him coming down from that price. I just don't see a fit even if Sutter and Martin are traded. He's a #2 center.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 2 @ 2:50 PM ET
If we somehow get Grabo, we also get Kuli... and Sutter would be out. Also would need Martin salary dumped, or Skuds dumped.
- Guile


i can only see this happening if sutter AND scuds go. i think it could work if martin stayed.
Thorny
Location: OH
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 2 @ 2:52 PM ET
Not sure how that comparison makes sense as it concerns whether to trade Martin or not.

It would be whether:

Ehrhoff/Letang/Martin/Scuderi/Maatta/Despres/Borts

is more likely to produce a Cup than:

Ehrhoff/Letang/Scuderi/Maatta/Despres/Borts/Dumoulin

Question remains - is next year's team a Cup team? If not, should the FO trade Ehrhoff now?

- hardnosed



The question is, how do you know...if you don't play the young guys. I mean, by all means...keep playing the Engellands of the world because they work hard in practice. You don't let Martin walk for nothing. He has stated that he want to go to FA. What we don't know is if Ehrhoff will resign or not. We know Martin isn't.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 2 @ 2:52 PM ET
Grabovski was asking for 5 years and 25M from Washington. They should have done it and not signed Orpik. I can't imagine him coming down from that price. I just don't see a fit even if Sutter and Martin are traded. He's a #2 center.
- Ryan_Wilson


So we need Sutter gone, Martin, AND Skuderi for this scenario to even have a chance pretty much?


So... back to capgeek!
Bradlee3
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tanev hit was clean.
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 2:55 PM ET
They should make the free agent period three days instead of 3 months , I want it all figured out NOW !!!!!!!!! I still think kulemin would be good for us , I know people said he's a third liner but with Malkin ? Maybe turns into 2nd liner ?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 2 @ 2:58 PM ET
Is it odd that NHL.com is not listing our signing today yet?

They only list the following for today...


JULY 2 D Kyle Quincey Detroit Detroit
JULY 2 F Carter Camper Ottawa Columbus
JULY 2 D Michael Sdao Ottawa Ottawa
JULY 2 F Dustin Jeffrey Vancouver Dallas
JULY 2 F Jason Akeson Philadelphia Philadelphia
JULY 2 F Stephen Gionta New Jersey New Jersey
JULY 2 F Steve Bernier New Jersey New Jersey
JULY 2 F Joel Rechlicz Minnesota Washington
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jul 2 @ 3:00 PM ET
The question is, how do you know...if you don't play the young guys. I mean, by all means...keep playing the Engellands of the world because they work hard in practice.
- Thorny


Engelland is gone, not sure why he keeps getting brought up.

Dumoulin/Harrington/Samuelsson will never be the player Martin is, especially as rookies.

The Penguins' best chance to win the Cup next year is to hold onto Paul Martin, he's consistently been their best defenseman. If he walks, so be it.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
Go to Grabovski's Wikipedia page....

"Born in Potsdam, Germany"

Bradlee3
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tanev hit was clean.
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 3:02 PM ET
Is it odd that NHL.com is not listing our signing today yet?

They only list the following for today...


JULY 2 D Kyle Quincey Detroit Detroit
JULY 2 F Carter Camper Ottawa Columbus
JULY 2 D Michael Sdao Ottawa Ottawa
JULY 2 F Dustin Jeffrey Vancouver Dallas
JULY 2 F Jason Akeson Philadelphia Philadelphia
JULY 2 F Stephen Gionta New Jersey New Jersey
JULY 2 F Steve Bernier New Jersey New Jersey
JULY 2 F Joel Rechlicz Minnesota Washington

- Guile

It's also not on pens app yet ?
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jul 2 @ 3:02 PM ET
Engelland is gone, not sure why he keeps getting brought up.

Dumoulin/Harrington/Samuelsson will never be the player Martin is, especially as rookies.

The Penguins' best chance to win the Cup next year is to hold onto Paul Martin, he's consistently been their best defenseman. If he walks, so be it.

- hardnosed


I guess that whole 2012/13 Season never happened.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jul 2 @ 3:03 PM ET
They should make the free agent period three days instead of 3 months , I want it all figured out NOW !!!!!!!!! I still think kulemin would be good for us , I know people said he's a third liner but with Malkin ? Maybe turns into 2nd liner ?
- Bradlee3


The Penguins tried that with another Russian winger from the Leafs.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jul 2 @ 3:04 PM ET
Go to Grabovski's Wikipedia page....

"Born in Potsdam, Germany"


- cap1681



I can't wait to see what the new food vendor menus will look like at the arena this season...brats we have LOTS of brats....oh and pretzels lots of pretzels.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jul 2 @ 3:04 PM ET
I guess that whole 2012/13 Season never happened.

- Reverend Killtaker


Note that I didn't specify a time frame. You don't believe that season was an anomaly?
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jul 2 @ 3:08 PM ET
Note that I didn't specify a time frame. You don't believe that season was an anomaly?
- hardnosed


Ok, I suggest wanted to make sure you were definitely picking and choosing the data you want to use while ignoring the actual data that would counter your conclusions.
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