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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 2 @ 3:56 PM ET
1 year 1 mil

If he can stay healthy and play.. its a great move by the Pens.

- jak521

Meh - I'm fine with him gone. Bring on the Frenchie.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 2 @ 3:58 PM ET
They're probably acting like kids the day after Christmas, playing with their new toys!


(NOT intended to be any kind of sexual reference)

- Streit2ThePoint


I think the regret starts after 1 month of the season. It's a delayed walk of shame
Fast_Eddie_1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Vorhees, NJ
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jul 2 @ 4:01 PM ET
At this point, is he really that much worse than Vinny? At least the guy can still skate and play some D. 1-year, $2.5M... no brainer for them.
- Tomahawk


...and swim

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 2 @ 4:04 PM ET
As far as the farm system is concerned. A big topic of conversation in the past has been the lack of defense prospects. Now look at it, it's stacked. Things can change quickly in Hockey.

I don't see Hextall's plan as a 3-5 year plan. I think you can both try and win now, and keep the prospect pipeline going. You don't sacrifice one for the other. But Hextall is going to do what he feels is right to do both.

- MJL

Very happy about the D prospects they are accumulating.

I like the draft this year (from what I've read, I really don't watch these guys much).

My comment on the 3 yr plan was I heard Hextall say, in regards to the Flyers D, that they will have older guys who will be on the end of their deals when some of the prospects are about ready. He thought it would be a natural transition.

Flyers will always be a team that will try to win every year. I love that about them, but also think they sometimes can take that attitude too far, in regards to sacrificing future assets for TDL pick ups.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:05 PM ET
do you think they can find a fit for him on the team?

I really have my doubts, unless he finds some speed he didn't show last season for whatever reason.

Sure he will be better if you line him up at C with Voracek and and say Read.

But is that better then G/Jake or what lots of people would like to see BSchenn centering Jake?

- Marc D


i don't know. we obviously don't want him centering the 4th line because of $/minutes reasons, although it jump started him a bit when berooby put him there. he'll have to find a spot on the 2nd or 3rd line. other centers without speed have succeeded. handzus might be a decent example and vinny's got a much better shot than he does.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:07 PM ET
At this point, is he really that much worse than Vinny? At least the guy can still skate and play some D. 1-year, $2.5M... no brainer for them.
- Tomahawk


i don't think that guy brings anything to the table. at all.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 2 @ 4:07 PM ET
i don't know. we obviously don't want him centering the 4th line because of $/minutes reasons, although it jump started him a bit when berooby put him there. he'll have to find a spot on the 2nd or 3rd line. other centers without speed have succeeded. handzus might be a decent example and vinny's got a much better shot than he does.
- hammarby31

speaking of 2nd line Cs without speed, how do you think Brad Richards will do in CHI?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 2 @ 4:08 PM ET
speaking of 2nd line Cs without speed, how do you think Brad Richards will do in CHI?
- Marc D


Better than Handzus.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:09 PM ET

- watsonnostaw


good god, man.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:10 PM ET
...and swim


- Fast_Eddie_1




there's so much gold in here today, i can't take it.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
For 2Real

Greg Wyshynski ‏@wyshynski 14m
John Scott signs with the San Jose Sharks, presumably to punch the other 17 skaters in the face if they blow another 3-0 lead.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
speaking of 2nd line Cs without speed, how do you think Brad Richards will do in CHI?
- Marc D


exactly. now that's a puzzling move if i've ever seen one, especially for a team that believes it should have won the cup again this past season and intends on winning another this year.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
speaking of 2nd line Cs without speed, how do you think Brad Richards will do in CHI?
- Marc D


If he gets to play with Kane, I imagine he'll look better than he did with the Rangers.

I'm not sure if he's better than Shaw. Shaw is still pretty young and had 40 points last season.

Very low risk move though
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
For 2Real

Greg Wyshynski ‏@wyshynski 14m
John Scott signs with the San Jose Sharks, presumably to punch the other 17 skaters in the face if they blow another 3-0 lead.

- moylander


why do i feel like this guy is on like 4 teams at the same time?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
Better than Handzus.
- Feanor

so loved his game winning goal this spring

soft spot for Zeus
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:12 PM ET
For 2Real

Greg Wyshynski ‏@wyshynski 14m
John Scott signs with the San Jose Sharks, presumably to punch the other 17 skaters in the face if they blow another 3-0 lead.

- moylander


that'll be great him and mike brown will tear poop up
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 2 @ 4:13 PM ET
exactly. now that's a puzzling move if i've ever seen one, especially for a team that believes it should have the cup again this season.
- hammarby31

he looked like toast in the playoffs

(except against the flyers)

I mean Dom Morre took his spot in the finals
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:13 PM ET
why do i feel like this guy is on like 4 teams at the same time?
- hammarby31

because he's so big he can be
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:13 PM ET
so loved his game winning goal this spring

soft spot for Zeus

- Marc D


i do too. whenever his name comes up i always think of the clip of him on the bench when primeau ties game 6 against tampa, jumping up and down and hugging the guy next to him...or maybe it was gagne's winner...either way, it's a great moment.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 2 @ 4:14 PM ET
So a little bit of Flyers trade history...

Since 2000.

The most notable players drafted with picks the Flyers gave away in trades..

Chronologically:
Pasi Nurminen
Tim Gleason
Jordin Tootoo
Max Lapierre
Brandon Dubinsky
Joe Pavelski
Bryan Bickell
Ondrej Pavelec
Karri Ramo
Blair Jones (welcome home)
Shawn Matthias
Tom Sestito
Ryan White
Matt Martin
TJ Brennan
John Blum
Richard Panik
John Carlson
John Moore
Lucas Lessio
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 2 @ 4:15 PM ET
1 year 1 mil

If he can stay healthy and play.. its a great move by the Pens.

- jak521

Couldn't agree more. I liked him a lot with Couturier and Read to the point that I did want him to stay. I liked our team a lot prior to Downie's injury and I felt like the team really missed him.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 2 @ 4:15 PM ET
For 2Real

Greg Wyshynski ‏@wyshynski 14m
John Scott signs with the San Jose Sharks, presumably to punch the other 17 skaters in the face if they blow another 3-0 lead.

- moylander



Looks like Brian McGratton is guaranteed at least one dance partner for 2015.

(unless he planned on duking it out w/ Engelland in practice)
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 2 @ 4:16 PM ET
Couldn't agree more. I liked him a lot with Couturier and Read to the point that I did want him to stay. I liked our team a lot prior to Downie's injury and I felt like the team really missed him.
- SuperSchennBros

They did.. but I think with the Flyers adding PEB and Umberger (and potentially another forward in UFA) and with the way Akeson played in the playoffs.. he wasnt worth the risk of cap space loss
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 2 @ 4:17 PM ET
Couldn't agree more. I liked him a lot with Couturier and Read to the point that I did want him to stay. I liked our team a lot prior to Downie's injury and I felt like the team really missed him.
- SuperSchennBros


He was terrible from Christmas onwards. Time to move on.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 2 @ 4:18 PM ET
So a little bit of Flyers trade history...

Since 2000.

The most notable players drafted with picks the Flyers gave away in trades..

Chronologically:
Pasi Nurminen
Tim Gleason
Jordin Tootoo
Max Lapierre
Brandon Dubinsky
Joe Pavelski
Bryan Bickell
Ondrej Pavelec
Karri Ramo
Blair Jones (welcome home)
Shawn Matthias
Tom Sestito
Ryan White
Matt Martin
TJ Brennan
John Blum
Richard Panik
John Carlson
John Moore
Lucas Lessio

- jak521


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