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- As_I_See_It

We already hate Dion and Nazeem for their attitudes. This guy will start an Ontario civil war.

... no that is clearly not what you are saying.

What you did say was that the Leafs lost their best possession players and therefore got worse.

By that logic, the Leafs would be a worse team than 2013 if some of the best players in the game played for them, who had worse possession stats than MacArthur or Grabovski.

You cannot have your arguement one way and your advanced stats have some glaring exceptions/holes.
- Aetherial

i said its not a surprise they were a worse team...
Mac and Grab can also score also

your other point makes no sense to what I was saying

Must get rid of phaneuf

Komarov at just under 3mil...what a (frank)ing joke

Was there even a lockout?
- AdamFrench

To be honest, 3rd line winger and go-to PKer... the deal isn't bad at all. Third line importance is growing, look at Pouliot.

Komarov?
- ILoveLamp

He's being BOUGHT OUT

I am sure word gets around though.

Clearly something is making Toronto an unattractive destination. My guess is that it is a combination of Canadian Taxes, ridiculous media attention, the captain who is pretty clearly disliked around the league, and decades of consistently abysmal management.

I am not surprised at all that he wouldn't waive to come here. I am more surprised that anyone would sign with the Leafs at this point.
- Aetherial

It didn't seem to bother Clarkson last year.

Is there a problem in Nashville? Is the captain hated? Is the spotlight of the media too harsh? Is the team not committed to winning?

Oh my God, Spezza refused to go there!

How could Gorges possibly know about the locker room dynamic?

He's never been in the Leafs' locker room.
- Atomic Wedgie

Players write letters to each other

Komarov at just under 3mil...what a (frank)ing joke

Was there even a lockout?
- AdamFrench

Pretty comfortable with it based off of his Olympic play. Maybe a tad too high, but were not Chicago where players take less to play/compete for a cup.

To be honest, 3rd line winger and go-to PKer... the deal isn't bad at all. Third line importance is growing, look at Pouliot.
- mcleafs

You think Pouliot is a good signing for the Oilers?

This is the signing you picked out?

umm
Orpik, Bolland and just about everyone else.
- LeafMan

Other idiots did those though.

Dale Tallon must be related to Bolland somehow, first he seems to purposefully wait beyond the deadline of contracts giving him his overpriced (at the time) first deal, now he straight up makes it rain on him.

Must get rid of phaneuf
- Lee Denault

Basically would guarantee missing the playoffs. I dont like him either.

To be honest, 3rd line winger and go-to PKer... the deal isn't bad at all. Third line importance is growing, look at Pouliot.
- mcleafs

When was he a third liner or a go-to PKer?

Komarov at just under 3mil...what a (frank)ing joke

Was there even a lockout?
- AdamFrench

apparently 6 teams wanted him...drove the price up...but he was one player Nonis was not gonna lose...wish he had that passion for 1st line players and defense!!

understood ...

Yes, LA agreed with the stats. Colorado was a glaring exception.

Leafs beat the stats for more than 100 games, but I keep seeing the 15 game sample, when the starting goalie went down, as a pro-stats example.

Has anyone looked at a correlation between player size and success? I bet LA is pretty close to the top?
- Aetherial

last season the leafs were 38-44 .. the year before 26-23
so not even .500 team

I am not sure where you keep seeing the 15 game sample..as the evidence.

You think Pouliot is a good signing for the Oilers?
- Pecafan Fan

As a player, yes.

The contract is high, as is the term, but my only point is that our concepts of 3rd line valuations are becoming antiquated. 3rd line + great PK is becoming pretty damn important to teams.

How could Gorges possibly know about the locker room dynamic?

He's never been in the Leafs' locker room.
- Atomic Wedgie

Cause players never talk.

When was he a third liner or a go-to PKer?
- AdamFrench

He is going to be a 3rd line winger now, and he was always a go-to PKer during 2012.

I just saw Drew Mac signed in Carolina. Pity.

You think Pouliot is a good signing for the Oilers?
- Pecafan Fan

When Komarov and Engelland get 3 mill.... Yes

Guys, Nylander is going to steal the show, and be the third member of our 2nd line with Kadri and Lupul!

Cause players never talk.
- Fakepartofme

So he hates the Leafs. Hates them so much that he refuses to play for them.

Yet he has small talk with Leafs players all the time, who fill him in on how bad the dressing room is?

OK, that makes perfect sense.

Zubrus to Leafs for Franson

I just saw Drew Mac signed in Carolina. Pity.
- mykokes

its alright. we will sign a cheap backup for bernier when reims is traded, then gibson and sparks will handle the AHL

Guys, Nylander is going to steal the show, and be the third member of our 2nd line with Kadri and Lupul!
- mykokes

Would be such a desperate move

He is going to be a 3rd line winger now, and he was always a go-to PKer during 2012.
- mcleafs

I see.

In 2012 the main PKers were McClement and Kulemin though, with Bozak taking the draw and sprinting to the bench when he had a chance. Komarov was the fourth guy in.