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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:01 PM ET
You get my point Pete. the 6 D we had worked. We weren't juggling people in or had to worry about whose in at 6th D or who plays what side blah blah. It just worked. A cup champion worthy defense.
- mrhattrick27

Yea I understand where you're coming from. But really, Dan Boyle is a great hockey player. He's old, but he still has some left in the tank. And he provides us some offense and PP QB potential which Stralman didn't offer. It's not like we let Stralman walk and replaced him with like Cory Potter.

This move is virtually a lateral move in terms of ability. Boyle offers more offense while Stralman offers more speed. I really don't even think Boyle is bad defensively at all.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:03 PM ET
They improved the offense from the defense tho..that's huge. At both 5 on 5 and the pp. His age is what's freaking everyone out
- Slimtj100

Yes, and offense from the backend is extremely important with the way we play. Dan Boyle will be threading passes through the neutral zone to Kreider in stride for countless breakaways. That's something Stralman can't do.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:03 PM ET
They improved the offense from the defense tho..that's huge. At both 5 on 5 and the pp. His age is what's freaking everyone out
- Slimtj100


See comment below man. This is my thoughts exactly.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:04 PM ET
Let's all hope I'm wrong ok? Not that I don't think Boyle will be decent but I don't see the Rangers as having improved and are taking a risk.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:04 PM ET
Yea I understand where you're coming from. But really, Dan Boyle is a great hockey player. He's old, but he still has some left in the tank. And he provides us some offense and PP QB potential which Stralman didn't offer. It's not like we let Stralman walk and replaced him with like Cory Potter.

This move is virtually a lateral move in terms of ability. Boyle offers more offense while Stralman offers more speed. I really don't even think Boyle is bad defensively at all.

- rangerdanger94


It's a lateral move I agree. For 2 years you get more offense, which we always need.

I think Klein as the 4 is the way to go and see how that works out first
RAG$4LIFE
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 10.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
You have money and spots tied up for about 4 years with essentially one spot open for Allen skjei McIlrath or anyone else you can think. If two are ready where are they gonna play? Wait! We trade one, then everyone gets all over a sather for trading them and he's hated for that too. The man can't win, I'm convinced
- Slimtj100

Things can happen at any time. Do we know john moore is gonna be here long term? Do we know Marc staal is? If we had signed stralman we would have 4 d-men locked up long term. Still very possible for a young guy to step up. I get what you're saying though
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
Let's all hope I'm wrong ok?
- mrhattrick27


What's the standard by which that is measured, however? If the Rangers don't make the SCF? Because that is hard to do and influenced by a number of other factors that don't relate to Dan Boyle/Anton Stralman.

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
I am thinking Stralman probably needed 5 for 25 to stay as a NYR, considering the whole Florida tax thing that Callahan told him all about

I didn't think they would pay any defenseman more than they are paying McDonagh that's for sure
RAG$4LIFE
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 10.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:06 PM ET
Things can happen at any time. Do we know john moore is gonna be here long term? Do we know Marc staal is? If we had signed stralman we would have 4 d-men locked up long term. Still very possible for a young guy to step up. I get what you're saying though
- RAG$4LIFE

Also I think Klein played a big role in slats letting stralman walk
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:06 PM ET
Let's all hope I'm wrong ok? Not that I don't think Boyle will be decent but I don't see the Rangers as having improved and are taking a risk.
- mrhattrick27


We shall see. Honestly think you are all overreacting.

Glass was a terrible idea which I think is the 100% majority

Moore back is the best news all day
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:07 PM ET
What's the standard by which that is measured, however? If the Rangers don't make the SCF? Because that is hard to do and influenced by a number of other factors that don't relate to Dan Boyle/Anton Stralman.
- Pete V


That would be unfair. It's gonna be a combination of eye test, finished second in the division and winning a playoff round.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:07 PM ET
I am actually a little surprised that more people aren't at least intrigued by the idea of MacDonagh and Boyle on the point on the powerplay.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:08 PM ET
I am thinking Stralman probably needed 5 for 25 to stay as a NYR, considering the whole Florida tax thing that Callahan told him all about

I didn't think they would pay any defenseman more than they are paying McDonagh that's for sure

- jimbro83


According to the beat guys this contract he signed in TB was offered to us and we said no. I'm ok with that. As I said I thought it was $20 over 5.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:09 PM ET
Another question, as of right now, seems like there is a good possibility that Hagelin-Miller-Fast maybe the Rangers third line next year. Hail to the Kids! Hope it works out.

Edit: But I still think there is some other center that is acquired.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
I am actually a little surprised that more people aren't at least intrigued by the idea of MacDonagh and Boyle on the point on the powerplay.
- Pete V


Be great for a 1st unit, Moore/Girardi for the 2nd. Please no more forwards.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
I am actually a little surprised that more people aren't at least intrigued by the idea of MacDonagh and Boyle on the point on the powerplay.
- Pete V


I just thought of something crazy...

Since McD is so fast and so good defensively...suppose Boyle plays with him?? Your 2nd pair is staal and Girardi who played together for a few years if I remember correctly. The same pair is the 3rd pair. Boyle played more minutes then anyone in game 7 vs LA, so he's still capable of logging big minutes
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
your boy tj True Blue IAmARanger ‏@TB_IAmARanger 1m
NHL NEWS: Anaheim signs Clayton Stoner for 4 years, worth $13M. -Ricky
tbreinold
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.14.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:16 PM ET
I am actually a little surprised that more people aren't at least intrigued by the idea of MacDonagh and Boyle on the point on the powerplay.
- Pete V


I absolutely am... Love it.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:17 PM ET
your boy tj True Blue IAmARanger ‏@TB_IAmARanger 1m
NHL NEWS: Anaheim signs Clayton Stoner for 4 years, worth $13M. -Ricky

- mrhattrick27

Jesus lol.

Never mind in him lol. I was thinking much cheaper. Maybe he isn't bad after all
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:18 PM ET
Worst signing ever?

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 3m
Deryk Engelland to CGY. 3 year deal worth $2.9M.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:18 PM ET
Worst signing ever?

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 3m
Deryk Engelland to CGY. 3 year deal worth $2.9M.

- mrhattrick27


Yikes
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jul 1 @ 3:18 PM ET
Tampa is my pick to win the East nest season, Yzerman is a very good GM, wish he had someone with a younger brain
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:19 PM ET
Tampa is my pick to win the East nest season, Yzerman is a very good GM, wish he had someone with a younger brain
- KreiderBomb


He also has stamkos handed to him on a silver platter

But I agree, they gonna be really good
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: AKA Nick, I wrote a song about Facebook Stalkin'
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:23 PM ET
I am actually a little surprised that more people aren't at least intrigued by the idea of MacDonagh and Boyle on the point on the powerplay.
- Pete V


Who da fuk is MacDonagh?
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:24 PM ET
Assuming Miller and Fast make the roster, and Sather pulls some magic and gets the RFA and Carcillo signed to the following deals: Zucc (3.0), Brass (4.0), Kreider (2.0), Moore (1.8), and Carcillo (.8), that would give the Rangers about $2.7 million in cap space for one more forward. Obviously, that number would go down commensurate with any increase to the above deals (which is obviously very possible, as I am assuming that Sather will bank relentlessly on his RFAs to take favorable deals).
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