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Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:40 PM ET
But sign 38 year old Dan Boyle for more than 27 year old Anton Stralman. Am i doing this right?
- tomburton99


2 years not 5. So that's 3 years your holding up skiej for example
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:41 PM ET
We've now officially turned Anton Stralman into Bobby Orr, and Dan Boyle into Roman Hamerlik.

Put me in the camp of preferring Boyle on the short term, rather than a 5 year deal for Stralman, which the organization may regret when a few of these prospects we all love so much take the next step.

I'm not trying to be crabby here, but what about Anton Stralman's long term track record makes this guy so irreplaceable?

- Pete V


I think I need to log off for a bit lol
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 1 @ 2:42 PM ET
right handed powerplay quarterback, that's why they chose Boyle over Stralman
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 1 @ 2:42 PM ET
Real_ESPNLeBrun: Correction on Stralman contract with Lightning: It's $22.5 M over 5 years
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:43 PM ET
We sign Stralman you trade staal..your still not happy.

McD
Girardi
Klein
Moore
Staal

Are all long term here...you gonna have 6 long term guys?...it's the dumbest thing in the world
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:44 PM ET
The organization that arguably saved his career offered him 4 years/16 million (according to accounts), and he went to Tampa for not much more annually, although he got the extra year. Perhaps some of this can be placed on Anton Stralman. Maybe he just wasn't that in to us.
RAG$4LIFE
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 10.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:44 PM ET
We've now officially turned Anton Stralman into Bobby Orr, and Dan Boyle into Roman Hamerlik.

Put me in the camp of preferring Boyle on the short term, rather than a 5 year deal for Stralman, which the organization may regret when a few of these prospects we all love so much take the next step.

I'm not trying to be crabby here, but what about Anton Stralman's long term track record makes this guy so irreplaceable?

- Pete V

Stralman is as steady as they come and proved he can play here and fit in perfectly. To let him walk, while his contract demands were beyond reasonable, for a 38 year old who's nearly at the end of his tank makes zero sense to me. And let's not forget the 500k who could go to brass zucc kreider or moore.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:44 PM ET
We've now officially turned Anton Stralman into Bobby Orr, and Dan Boyle into Roman Hamerlik.

Put me in the camp of preferring Boyle on the short term, rather than a 5 year deal for Stralman, which the organization may regret when a few of these prospects we all love so much take the next step.

I'm not trying to be crabby here, but what about Anton Stralman's long term track record makes this guy so irreplaceable?

- Pete V

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:44 PM ET
right handed powerplay quarterback, that's why they chose Boyle over Stralman
- jimbro83

Stralman had a total of 13 points last year and 1 goal. He was ripped on a lot during the season. He did have an amazing playoffs but can he repeat that for 5 years? Boyle for 2 years is fine with me. The Rangers need more offense from the blue line. Boyle brings that. Klein can fill in later in games to bring more of that defensive presence.

I get the hate over Glass, but I am perfectly fine with Dan Boyle.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:45 PM ET
Stralman is as steady as they come and proved he can play here and fit in perfectly. To let him walk, while his contract demands were beyond reasonable, for a 38 year old who's nearly at the end of his tank makes zero sense to me. And let's not forget the 500k who could go to brass zucc kreider or moore.
- RAG$4LIFE


So you would've traded staal? Or blocked our prospects from playing in the NHL?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:45 PM ET
Stralman is as steady as they come and proved he can play here and fit in perfectly. To let him walk, while his contract demands were beyond reasonable, for a 38 year old who's nearly at the end of his tank makes zero sense to me. And let's not forget the 500k who could go to brass zucc kreider or moore.
- RAG$4LIFE

What if he wanted to leave? Sather had $16M over 4 years on the table since the start of the summer and Stralman said no. Maybe Stralman wants to get out of NY.

Let's also not forget the whole no state income tax thing in Florida.
RAG$4LIFE
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 10.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:45 PM ET
Real_ESPNLeBrun: Correction on Stralman contract with Lightning: It's $22.5 M over 5 years
- jimbro83

Hmmm. Okay I might be okay with it now lol
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:46 PM ET
Stralman had a total of 13 points last year and 1 goal. He was ripped on a lot during the season. He did have an amazing playoffs but can he repeat that for 5 years? Boyle for 2 years is fine with me. The Rangers need more offense from the blue line. Boyle brings that. Klein can fill in later in games to bring more of that defensive presence.

I get the hate over Glass, but I am perfectly fine with Dan Boyle.

- TPC

I think that the peak of Stralman's career was this past Spring. Still rock solid, but that level on play is unsustainable for him over 5 years IMO.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:46 PM ET
We've now officially turned Anton Stralman into Bobby Orr, and Dan Boyle into Roman Hamerlik.

Put me in the camp of preferring Boyle on the short term, rather than a 5 year deal for Stralman, which the organization may regret when a few of these prospects we all love so much take the next step.

I'm not trying to be crabby here, but what about Anton Stralman's long term track record makes this guy so irreplaceable?

- Pete V


Our D core has been really good for a while. I wanted to lock up those 4 and for once have a core that we keep for more than 2 years. I'm tired of turn over. The guy proved he could play and play extremely well here, even in the playoffs. Which our higher paid players did not do. That doesn't mean I don't like the higher paid guys we locked up, some struggled in the playoffs. While he was consistent.

We got as far as we did on our depth and defense. Depth took a hit and we took one of the consistent performers on our defense out for an unknown. Neither you, I, Sather, or TJ can say how Boyle is going to perform in NY. But I know Stralman was consistent and could play well here.

I am just tired of seeing a new team with some new veteran guy being brought in here, year after year after year, that had his better years in another jersey. I want to keep our own players for once.
RAG$4LIFE
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 10.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:46 PM ET
What if he wanted to leave? Sather had $16M over 4 years on the table since the start of the summer and Stralman said no. Maybe Stralman wants to get out of NY.

Let's also not forget the whole no state income tax thing in Florida.

- rangerdanger94

Certainly possible. I just see something like this and automatically blame sather. Don't think anyone could blame me. He did end up getting 4.5 per so I'm not too upset about it. Glass however was just a brainless signing.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:47 PM ET
Stralman is as steady as they come and proved he can play here and fit in perfectly. To let him walk, while his contract demands were beyond reasonable, for a 38 year old who's nearly at the end of his tank makes zero sense to me. And let's not forget the 500k who could go to brass zucc kreider or moore.
- RAG$4LIFE


This is not direct to you, but for about a 20 game stretch during the season, there were alot of people not saying that Stralman was as steady as they come. There were alot of people that wanted him benched. There were alot of people that were wondering if the Rangers should pull their 3 year/9 million offer.

But, I do agree, he is steady and was a very good defensemen for the Rangers, for the most part. But, do I want to be locked into steady for 5 years at $22.5 million, when I am already locked in long term to most of the defense core, with Staal still due to be signed. No, I don't.


RAG$4LIFE
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 10.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:47 PM ET
So you would've traded staal? Or blocked our prospects from playing in the NHL?
- Slimtj100

Um what?
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:48 PM ET
Our D core has been really good for a while. I wanted to lock up those 4 and for once have a core that we keep for more than 2 years. I'm tired of turn over. The guy proved he could play and play extremely well here, even in the playoffs. Which our higher paid players did not do. That doesn't mean I don't like the higher paid guys we locked up, some struggled in the playoffs. While he was consistent.

We got as far as we did on our depth and defense. Depth took a hit and we took one of the consistent performers on our defense out for an unknown. Neither you, I, Sather, or TJ can say how Boyle is going to perform in NY. But I know Stralman was consistent and could play well here.

I am just tired of seeing a new team with some new veteran guy being brought in here, year after year after year, that had his better years in another jersey. I want to keep our own players for once.

- mrhattrick27
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It's a core 4 except Klein is the 4th. Now we have a solid pp QB to boot.
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:48 PM ET
What it tells me is the prospects like skiej Allen etc are gonna be counted on...it's the youth. All you guys kill me..don't trade the youth, but also don't let them come up n play. I can't figure it out
- Slimtj100


You can never have too much depth. If Girardi or McDonaugh go down with an injury we will all be crying for more defensive depth.

The youth aren't competing for Stralman's spot anyway. They are competing for Staal, Klein, and J Moore's spots. Let them force one of those guys out of the lineup before passing on a reasonable contract for a RHD that works well in the Rangers system. Walk away from Staal next season if necessary.It's not all on lockdown. It's not like Staal or Stralman couldn't be moved if one of the young guys proves their worth.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:48 PM ET
Um what?
- RAG$4LIFE


Your missing the point..sigh
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:48 PM ET
Not enough Kool Aid out there to convince me that Sather struck out looking today, epic failure, same old Rangers, maybe in 10 years we'll get it right, I just feel bad for Hank, still has to carry the burden of this team' success
RAG$4LIFE
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 10.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
This is not direct to you, but for about a 20 game stretch during the season, there were alot of people not saying that Stralman was as steady as they come. There were alot of people that wanted him benched. There were alot of people that were wondering if the Rangers should pull their 3 year/9 million offer.

But, I do agree, he is steady and was a very good defensemen for the Rangers, for the most part. But, do I want to be locked into steady for 5 years at $22.5 million, when I am already locked in long term to most of the defense core, with Staal still due to be signed. No, I don't.

- Pete V

Understand your point completely. I just really, really liked our top 4 the way it was and didn't really see the need for a switch up. Stralman was arguably our best d-man in the playoffs. Got off to a rough start but I'll miss the guy
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:50 PM ET
You can never have too much depth. If Girardi or McDonaugh go down with an injury we will all be crying for more defensive depth.

The youth aren't competing for Stralman's spot anyway. They are competing for Staal, Klein, and J Moore's spots. Let them force one of those guys out of the lineup before passing on a reasonable contract for a RHD that works well in the Rangers system. Walk away from Staal next season if necessary.It's not all on lockdown. It's not like Staal or Stralman couldn't be moved if one of the young guys proves their worth.

- Maskdman3


So you'd rather trade staal just say it lol. Klein has a great contract for a few years
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:50 PM ET
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It's a core 4 except Klein is the 4th. Now we have a solid pp QB to boot.

- Slimtj100


There is a reason Klein was and is on the 3rd pair. And everyoen makes it out like Klein has some magical NTC I don't know about. If Skej or anyone else is good enough to surpass him he'd be dealt away. It isn't that hard to understand. You aren't married to Kevin (frank)ign Klein.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:50 PM ET
MDZ still out there, eh?
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