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fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:04 PM ET
Dude, with all the poop we do with our kids, if we didn't have a date night once in awhile we'd be in jail.
- Jsaquella

I can only imagine. No kid here yet, but we're hoping to make an addition to the family soon
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:05 PM ET
Sexy jail?
- Deasr1


Nope. At least not the kind of sexy I prefer.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:05 PM ET
Engelland, Niskanen and Orpik combined for $70M
- PhillySportsGuy

poop I can't believe I forgot about those
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:05 PM ET
Who is Jori Lehtera of St. Louis? He's coming over to play this year, and St. Louis fans are already penciling him in as the #2 C over Berglund.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:06 PM ET
OOooooooOOOOOOooooOO…So you wish to lace up the tether and wail away? Challenge accepted
- PhillySportsGuy

I can wail against the tether with the best of them.


GAME ONNNNNNNNN!!!!
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:07 PM ET
You have to admit, if that L3 got caught against the wrong line, it would be worth the price of admission
- AllInForFlyers


Our division would not-coincidentally have all the Hart finalists.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:09 PM ET
That was some nifty sleight of hand there... now give me back my Akeson
- Tomahawk


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:09 PM ET
Who is Jori Lehtera of St. Louis? He's coming over to play this year, and St. Louis fans are already penciling him in as the #2 C over Berglund.
- JAKEw1234


Blues drafted him in 2008 but couldn't sign him. Supposed to be a real good player who put up points in the KHL and Finnish leagues.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:10 PM ET
Who is Jori Lehtera of St. Louis? He's coming over to play this year, and St. Louis fans are already penciling him in as the #2 C over Berglund.
- JAKEw1234

Here he is with timonen, destroying team USA in the Olympic Bronze Medal Game

Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:10 PM ET
Who is Jori Lehtera of St. Louis? He's coming over to play this year, and St. Louis fans are already penciling him in as the #2 C over Berglund.
- JAKEw1234



Jori Dopita
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:10 PM ET
As a player he's like Adam Hall, but younger, more skilled, slighty more mobile, and not as good at FO's.

He's basically an upgrade to VDV.

- Tomahawk

Does he play wing?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:12 PM ET
Does he play wing?
- JAKEw1234



Aye.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:14 PM ET
You have to admit, if that L3 got caught against the wrong line, it would be worth the price of admission
- AllInForFlyers

That's why Imo you put Read-Vinny-Simmonds on lb
And Umberger-Couts-Raffl on l3.

Read and Simmonds should over come vinny's deficiencies, $and the 3rd line should provide solid d and some offense
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:15 PM ET
Eddie Lack @eddielack · 8h
Hey @RyanMiller3039 I'm open for dinner #datenight

I love Eddie Lack
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:16 PM ET
Aye.
- Tomahawk

Nice so he's a just a better in all ways Adam Hall. Get that man a sweater.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:16 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy

still a distant second to orpiks new deal for the biggest bust of the day
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:19 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy


Bewbs
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:20 PM ET
Eddie Lack @eddielack · 8h
Hey @RyanMiller3039 I'm open for dinner #datenight

I love Eddie Lack

- JAKEw1234



Luongo responded to miller and lack saying something like "don't do it - IT'S A TRAP" Then sent a emoticon tweet to miller showing the vancouver weather. Good stuff.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:33 PM ET
still a distant second to orpiks new deal for the biggest bust of the day
- stayinthefnnet

ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:35 PM ET
I'm not sure what happened to Tallon today. I know he would have to overpay FAs to come to Miami, but those contracts to Bolland and Mitchell are ridiculous. Bolland at $5.5 million/yr is insanity.

I do think Niskanen got over paid. Almost $6 million/yr for 7 years for a d-man that didn't get any time on the PK last year. I defer to the judgment of Ken Holland to back out of bidding process with Niskanen to believe the Craps over paid.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:36 PM ET
I'm 100% with you. Ideally he is moved. He simply doesn't fit with the roster.


The money off the cap would be swell, too

- Jsaquella


That's the rub. People are just putting out alternatives to a buyout or eating too much salary. Not a cup team. if you can't get fair trade, figure it out and move forward with him in the lineup. No more patch and try to win.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:37 PM ET
I'm not sure what happened to Tallon today. I know he would have to overpay FAs to come to Miami, but those contracts to Bolland and Mitchell are ridiculous. Bolland at $5.5 million/yr is insanity.

I do think Niskanen got over paid. Almost $6 million/yr for 7 years for a d-man that didn't get any time on the PK last year. I defer to the judgment of Ken Holland to back out of bidding process with Niskanen to believe the Craps over paid.

- ravishingone


Yep, and yet people suggested he took a below market contract.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:37 PM ET
Per moorese7en of Reddit, your remaining major FAs:

Centers
Mikhail Grabovski - 2nd line center, can play wing
Steve Ott - 3rd line center, can play wing
Olli Jokinen - 3rd line center
David Legwand - 3rd line center, could be a 2nd line center if your team lacks
Derek Roy - could be a 2nd line center, but he's regressed a lot
Mike Ribeiro - off-the-ice trouble, but good offensively...not so much defensively
Michal Handzus - 4th line center, reliable
Adam Hall - great FO, gritty, 4th liner
Andrei Loktionov - no qualifying from CAR, might go to Russia
Mike Santorelli - decent 3rd liner, got hurt early last year
Ryan White - good 4th line center
Wingers
Dany Heatley - 1st line (frank)in' all star
Ville Leino - lol, jk
David Booth - probably a 3rd liner at best, worth the risk at the right price
Dustin Penner - 3rd line power forward
Daniel Winnik - decent 3rd/4th liner
T.J. Galiardi - 3rd liner, meh
Dan Alfredsson - most likely DET or retire
Radim Vrbata - probably the top FA remaining
Nikolai Kulemin - good forward, probably a 3rd liner unless with Malkin
Lee Stempniak - journeyman, probably 3rd liner
Defense
Joni Pitkanen - is he even healthy?
Sami Salo - most likely to retire
Nick Schultz - 3rd pairing at best
Derek Morris - aging defenseman
Michael Del Zotto - can't seem to develop
Jamie McBain - 3rd pairing at best
Goalies
Martin Brodeur - just wants to play hockey, decent backup
Tim Thomas - same as Marty
Ilya Bryzgalov - rumoured to be signing with NASA to go to the moon
Tomas Vokoun - if healthy, a good backup...I'd like him to play it safe and retire

There are some forwards on this list that I would like the Flyers to explore. Judging by some of the contracts today, along with Philly being a desirable market, I could definitely see us getting one of those forwards at a very respectable cap hit and term. I'd pursue Kulemin, Vrbata, and Booth especially. Get one of those guys at 2-2.5m and Hexy will have made a great signing. Any more than that and you would hope Hexy would move on, assuming he's even contacted or will contact these guys.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:37 PM ET
I'm not sure what happened to Tallon today. I know he would have to overpay FAs to come to Miami, but those contracts to Bolland and Mitchell are ridiculous. Bolland at $5.5 million/yr is insanity.

I do think Niskanen got over paid. Almost $6 million/yr for 7 years for a d-man that didn't get any time on the PK last year. I defer to the judgment of Ken Holland to back out of bidding process with Niskanen to believe the Craps over paid.

- ravishingone

watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:38 PM ET
Per moorese7en of Reddit, youre remaining major FAs:

Centers
Mikhail Grabovski - 2nd line center, can play wing
Steve Ott - 3rd line center, can play wing
Olli Jokinen - 3rd line center
David Legwand - 3rd line center, could be a 2nd line center if your team lacks
Derek Roy - could be a 2nd line center, but he's regressed a lot
Mike Ribeiro - off-the-ice trouble, but good offensively...not so much defensively
Michal Handzus - 4th line center, reliable
Adam Hall - great FO, gritty, 4th liner
Andrei Loktionov - no qualifying from CAR, might go to Russia
Mike Santorelli - decent 3rd liner, got hurt early last year
Ryan White - good 4th line center
Wingers
Dany Heatley - 1st line (frank)in' all star
Ville Leino - lol, jk
David Booth - probably a 3rd liner at best, worth the risk at the right price
Dustin Penner - 3rd line power forward
Daniel Winnik - decent 3rd/4th liner
T.J. Galiardi - 3rd liner, meh
Dan Alfredsson - most likely DET or retire
Radim Vrbata - probably the top FA remaining
Nikolai Kulemin - good forward, probably a 3rd liner unless with Malkin
Lee Stempniak - journeyman, probably 3rd liner
Defense
Joni Pitkanen - is he even healthy?
Sami Salo - most likely to retire
Nick Schultz - 3rd pairing at best
Derek Morris - aging defenseman
Michael Del Zotto - can't seem to develop
Jamie McBain - 3rd pairing at best
Goalies
Martin Brodeur - just wants to play hockey, decent backup
Tim Thomas - same as Marty
Ilya Bryzgalov - rumoured to be signing with NASA to go to the moon
Tomas Vokoun - if healthy, a good backup...I'd like him to play it safe and retire

There are some forwards on this list that I would like the Flyers to explore. Judging by some of the contracts today, along with Philly being a desirable market, I could definitely see us getting one of those forwards at a very respectable cap hit and term. I'd pursue Kulemin, Vrbata, and Booth especially. Get one of those guys at 2-2.5m and Hexy will have made a great signing. Any more than that and you would hope Hexy would move on, assuming he's even contacted or will contact these guys.

- JAKEw1234


Pitkanens career is over, cant even get his surgically rebuilt foot in a skate
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