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Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:07 PM ET
I, for one, am not surprised how quiet they were. They have some space to make moves. But, who really fit the team style that would have been affordable? There are still a few names out there that can help. It's not like we had till 6 today to sign people. VL can still be moved. Don't the Islanders and Sabers need like a poop ton of cap to be signed. I, as stated before, will wait till the team plays it's first game to see what the finished product is. Hexy looks to be eyeing a cup in the next couple years not this summer.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:08 PM ET
Nothing of value was lost.
- feelingkettle


Well, there's Lukin.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jul 1 @ 6:08 PM ET
Ehrhoff and Niskanen on the open market available to all 30 teams, are making on the average less than Andrew MacDonald. Holmgren was bidding against Holmgren tho, so it wasn't a fair fight.

LAUGH-A-BLE

- PLindbergh31


Both players took discounts for whatever reason. AMac signed for a slight overpayment.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:08 PM ET
Niskanen
Ehrhoff
I would rather have Iginla with the contract he just signed over Vinny as it's a better overall fit for the team.

Other minor moves to bolster the 4th line/ D depth.

- hereticpride


where would iginla fit?

erhoff would have been worth a flyer for one season at that price. niskanen, i don't like any 7 year contract. period. way too long.

lack of room is probably a good thing. they've got some new guys and youngsters coming in - i want to see what they have. no need to go crazy like a sailor on leave at whore island.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 1 @ 6:08 PM ET
Well, there's Lukin.
- tangent_man

He can always move to Cuba.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:09 PM ET
Well, there's Lukin.
- tangent_man

he's in i think Mississippi
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 6:10 PM ET
Both players took discounts for whatever reason. AMac signed for a slight overpayment.
- FlyersSteve118


Why didn't they take discounts to play in Philadelphia?
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:10 PM ET
Both players took discounts for whatever reason. AMac signed for a slight overpayment.
- FlyersSteve118

There were plenty of over-payments out there. Couple of guys who took less to win are guys that got bought out and have the money coming. Nistikian, or however it's spelled, is not winning a cup in Washington. They need to over haul that offense some.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:11 PM ET
Ehrhoff and Niskanen on the open market available to all 30 teams, are making on the average less than Andrew MacDonald. Holmgren was bidding against Holmgren tho, so it wasn't a fair fight.

LAUGH-A-BLE

- PLindbergh31


So now you've taken two players, averaged out their cap hit, to come up with this premise? There obviously hasn't been any thought given to this, such as why Ehrhoff took the deal he did with the Pens. That is what is laughable.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:11 PM ET
He can always move to Cuba.
- feelingkettle


He hits the casinos around the Gulf often, so he may not have even been in-state.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 6:12 PM ET
2-0
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:12 PM ET
Why didn't they take discounts to play in Philadelphia?
- PLindbergh31


Think it over and tell us why!
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:12 PM ET
Preds and Flyers Still Talking... (E4)
"Could be Vinny Lecavalier as they are trying to make something happen still I am told"
- Eklund

There's hope for the whiners out there.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:13 PM ET
Both players took discounts for whatever reason. AMac signed for a slight overpayment.
- FlyersSteve118


Hard to say they took a discount when the top guy 'only' went for $5.75M. Think the number of dmen available in the trade market is pretty high right now, coupled with the unexpected $69M ceiling, and the UFA's just not being all that good dampened the amount of money teams were willing to throw at these guys.
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jul 1 @ 6:13 PM ET
''Flyers sign Georges Laracque. The enforcer signed a 3-year deal that pays him 1.4M avg annually.''

per Justin Kidding of the Jersey Shore times
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 6:13 PM ET
I'll say it: If I was Christian Ehrhoff and I just finished the season on one of the worst teams the NHL has iced in the last 20 years or so, I would take a little less to go a team that won its division, too

He's got his buyout money to make up the difference
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jul 1 @ 6:14 PM ET
Why didn't they take discounts to play in Philadelphia?
- PLindbergh31


No Crosby. No Ovechkin.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:15 PM ET
Preds and Flyers Still Talking... (E4)
"Could be Vinny Lecavalier as they are trying to make something happen still I am told"
- Eklund

There's hope for the whiners out there.

- Deasr1


And when we have to eat salary and take a decent cap hit in return, there will still be no satisfaction.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:15 PM ET
Think it over and tell us why!
- MJL

What do you think about a 2 year deal for Lee Stempniak to play with Coots and Read?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:15 PM ET
What do you think about a 2 year deal for Lee Stempniak to play with Coots and Read?
- Deasr1


4th liner
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 6:16 PM ET
And when we have to eat salary and take a decent cap hit in return, there will still be no satisfaction.
- tangent_man


I'll be satisfied, because I would be flat-out amazed if the Flyers get out of that one "clean"
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jul 1 @ 6:16 PM ET
Hard to say they took a discount when the top guy 'only' went for $5.75M. Think the number of dmen available in the trade market is pretty high right now, coupled with the unexpected $69M ceiling, and the UFA's just not being all that good dampened the amount of money teams were willing to throw at these guys.
- Tomahawk


Well for Niskanen yeah. But Ehrhoff took an obvious discount, but that kind of makes sense.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:17 PM ET
2-1
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:17 PM ET
I'll be satisfied, because I would be flat-out amazed if the Flyers get out of that one "clean"
- AllInForFlyers


Me too, but you mentioned the whiners.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:17 PM ET
Hard to say they took a discount when the top guy 'only' went for $5.75M. Think the number of dmen available in the trade market is pretty high right now, coupled with the unexpected $69M ceiling, and the UFA's just not being all that good dampened the amount of money teams were willing to throw at these guys.
- Tomahawk


Willie Mitchell got 4.25M a year
Andrej Meszaros got 4.125 a year
Brooks Orpik got 5.5M a year

There's no question as the top defenseman on the market, that Niskanen took a discount. As did Ehrhoff.
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