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DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:52 PM ET
If they had a legit shot at either Bogosian or Byfuglien I would still pursue those avenues outside of that I am happy.

I would consider Couts for Bogo, not for Buf and noone is off limits (in this scenario) save Claude.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:52 PM ET
Just about every mediocre to bad team in the East made improvements today. Im sorry but I cant share the enthusiasm. It could be a rough year with this roster as i with what everyone has done around us.
- hereticpride


Lots of people are talking about standing pat, and not spending any money. That all sounds good right now. Until the games start, and fans see where the needs are. Then the tune changes. They need this, they need that. The GM didn't get this done. Now they overpay at the deadline. Patience is easy until it's required to exercise it.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jul 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
For me when I read about his lateral movement, especially on the PK. I think it's about time that this team shores up it's discipline and takes a hell of a lot less penalties. And they also need to drastically improve the team defense, and find consistency there. If they can do that, Emery will be fine. And he brings a lot of intangibles to the team that are a big help.
- MJL


Yeah that's true. But I think he also doesn't have great vision seeing the puck cross the ice. He seems to react slowly and than move slowly immediately afterwards.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
I'm sure they'll circle back to it when the budget isn't so (frank)ed.... meanwhile, lot of un(frank)ing left to do.
- Tomahawk


I really want them to move VL though. Bringing him back would be such a waste. They'd throw him on Schenns line again and it'd be like groundhog day.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
For me when I read about his lateral movement, especially on the PK. I think it's about time that this team shores up it's discipline and takes a hell of a lot less penalties. And they also need to drastically improve the team defense, and find consistency there. If they can do that, Emery will be fine. And he brings a lot of intangibles to the team that are a big help.
- MJL


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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
Niskanen 500k more per year than MacDonald. Try and spin it
- PLindbergh31

And didnt cost picks either.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
I'm sure they'll circle back to it when the budget isn't so (frank)ed.... meanwhile, lot of un(frank)ing left to do.
- Tomahawk


Specifically, what is the un(frank)ing left to do?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 5:54 PM ET
I really want them to move VL though. Bringing him back would be such a waste. They'd throw him on Schenns line again and it'd be like groundhog day.
- PhillySportsGuy



I'm praying to RJ that the center Bryan Murray was talking about was Vinny.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:54 PM ET
Niskanen 500k more per year than MacDonald. Try and spin it
- PLindbergh31


Why does it need to be spun?


And the first thing I'll spin is to correct you on the numbers. It's 750K more per year.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 5:54 PM ET
Niskanen 500k more per year than MacDonald. Try and spin it
- PLindbergh31


Mac got 34% less money.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:54 PM ET
For me when I read about his lateral movement, especially on the PK. I think it's about time that this team shores up it's discipline and takes a hell of a lot less penalties. And they also need to drastically improve the team defense, and find consistency there. If they can do that, Emery will be fine. And he brings a lot of intangibles to the team that are a big help.
- MJL


those are areas - discipline especially - they need to fix regardless of who is net, but i agree...it will help emery a lot to not be constantly put in that position. it would also help if they give him some goal support. he got virtually nothing all season long. he's still capable of stealing games too.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 5:55 PM ET
Lots of people are talking about standing pat, and not spending any money. That all sounds good right now. Until the games start, and fans see where the needs are. Then the tune changes. They need this, they need that. The GM didn't get this done. Now they overpay at the deadline. Patience is easy until it's required to exercise it.
- MJL

My frustration stems more from the fact that the Vinny contract realisticly kept us out of this entire FA crop, not from a lack of patience.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 5:55 PM ET
I'm praying to RJ that the center Bryan Murray was talking about was Vinny.
- Tomahawk




When I first read this, I thought you were talking about Umberger. I was like WHat the (frank) is he talking about
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:56 PM ET
My frustration stems more from the fact that the Vinny contract realisticly kept us out of this entire FA crop, not from a lack of patience.
- hereticpride


so if they had the space and maneuverability....who did you want that went elsewhere?
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:56 PM ET
Also think next time someone like Stamkos is a free agent, UFA or not, guaranteed 40+ goal guys are as rare as shutdown d-men. We should have maybe taken the hit ans signed him when we had the chance.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 5:56 PM ET
so if they had the space and maneuverability....who did you want that went elsewhere?
- hammarby31

Orpik
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:57 PM ET
Niskanen 500k more per year than MacDonald. Try and spin it
- PLindbergh31


He's 250K more than Orpik, and they signed him on the same day. How do you spin that?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:57 PM ET
My frustration stems more from the fact that the Vinny contract realisticly kept us out of this entire FA crop, not from a lack of patience.
- hereticpride


I disagree with that. The Lecavalier contract has not kept the Flyers out of the entire FA crop. The Flyers had about 4.7M to work with before signing Emery.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 5:58 PM ET


When I first read this, I thought you were talking about Umberger. I was like WHat the (frank) is he talking about

- PhillySportsGuy



Church of Umburgler
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:58 PM ET
He's 250K more than Orpik, and they signed him on the same day. How do you spin that?
- eayost


No what the spin is? It's the Flyers so there is nothing but negativity. Not to mention a lack of understanding about what's going on.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 5:59 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 5m
Evgeny Nabokov signs a one-year deal with TB.

Goc back with Pitt too
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 6:00 PM ET
Belgium finally scores!
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jul 1 @ 6:00 PM ET
My frustration stems more from the fact that the Vinny contract realisticly kept us out of this entire FA crop, not from a lack of patience.
- hereticpride


Hexy is making a point probably. I just thought we had a shot at making a playoff run. I guess we still kind of do, if RJ, Raffl, Akeson, Laughton and this Bellemare guy really step up their game.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:00 PM ET

- eayost[/img]

He's a Flyer and I love him! The legend of having two black hockey players on this team continues baby!!!
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:00 PM ET
I disagree with that. The Lecavalier contract has not kept the Flyers out of the entire FA crop. The Flyers had about 4.7M to work with before signing Emery.
- MJL


It's cool. Facts mean nothing.
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