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WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:56 PM ET
Buffalo isn't a winning team?
- PhillySportsGuy


They couldn't even win the draft lottery...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:56 PM ET
If his facts were the "full" facts I wouldn't call BS on him as much as I do.....his # s are correct but there are other hurdles that render them disingenuous.....you can't circumvent the cap. There are safeguards built in....no matter how hard he wishes to argue the point.
- landros 2



Please point out how the numbers that were posted circumvent the cap? Now stuff is just being made up. You tell me how, and I'll show you how that's wrong. Complete with references to back it up.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:56 PM ET
Well played sir, I did temporarily forget Orpik. Perhaps the Bolland trade weighs more for me because Vinny would have been a better option for them and at less.
- coffee junkie


I think you need to consider that Florida needed to reach the cap floor too. When a team like the Flyers overpays, it's much worse because they usually spend up to the cap.

Florida won't get anywhere near the cap ceiling. They likely will be a cap floor team throughout Bollands entire deal.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 3:57 PM ET
Well played sir, I did temporarily forget Orpik. Perhaps the Bolland trade weighs more for me because Vinny would have been a better option for them and at less.
- coffee junkie



I guess Bolland looks bad because he is a third line center really. Seems a bit much for a guy I don't think posted over 50 points ever.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:57 PM ET
Retweeted by Sarah Baicker
John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet 3m
Here are some guys yet to sign... in Goal: Brodeur, Thomas, Nabokov, Vokoun, Emery,Giguere. #SNSigningSeason

Please rank

- PhillySportsGuy


Emery
Brodeur
Thomas
Nabokov
Vokoun
Giguere

Not sure about Vokoun since he hasn't played for a year. Did well the previous year. 99.8% sure Giguere is retiring.
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jul 1 @ 3:57 PM ET
Quiet day if your a Flyers fan !!!!

So bored, I can't get that Trivago hotel commercial song out of my head....

When you think about it, that guy in the commercial with no belt is kinda creepy also.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:58 PM ET
Emery
Brodeur
Thomas
Nabokov
Vokoun
Giguere

Not sure about Vokoun since he hasn't played for a year. Did well the previous year. 99.8% sure Giguere is retiring.

- Streit2ThePoint


Interesting
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:58 PM ET
Retweeted by Sarah Baicker
John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet 3m
Here are some guys yet to sign... in Goal: Brodeur, Thomas, Nabokov, Vokoun, Emery,Giguere. #SNSigningSeason

Please rank

- PhillySportsGuy

Is Vokoun healthy?

Nabokov, Broduer, Emery, Thomas, Giggy

But I'll admit the line is thin between them, very thin

Good news is it's a buyers market, we should get a good deal
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:58 PM ET
Worst signing of the day thus far: Bolland @5.5M 5yr?

or

- coffee junkie


Orpik

no question
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 3:59 PM ET
Retweeted by Sarah Baicker
John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet 3m
Here are some guys yet to sign... in Goal: Brodeur, Thomas, Nabokov, Vokoun, Emery,Giguere. #SNSigningSeason

Please rank

- PhillySportsGuy



John Curry might be worth a look... good enough for Team USA in the past.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:00 PM ET
John Curry might be worth a look... good enough for Team USA in the past.
- Tomahawk


You always have one out of left field
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 4:00 PM ET
You always have one out of left field
- PhillySportsGuy


'Cuz I'm always out here, picking daisies.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:01 PM ET
His max bonus is only $1.5m. It's not an Iginla-type situation.
- Feanor



I thought it was 2M base and 2M in bonuses?
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:02 PM ET
John Curry might be worth a look... good enough for Team USA in the past.
- Tomahawk

didnt the Minnesota Wild sign him?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:02 PM ET
'Cuz I'm always out here, picking daisies.
- Tomahawk


That seems to be what Dom Brown does in left field as well
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:02 PM ET
I think you need to consider that Florida needed to reach the cap floor too. When a team like the Flyers overpays, it's much worse because they usually spend up to the cap.

Florida won't get anywhere near the cap ceiling. They likely will be a cap floor team throughout Bollands entire deal.

- PhillySportsGuy

I call BS on that premise. If they NEED salary then why compliance buyout Jovo or sign Bolland for 5 years. 5 years with all that wonderful youth is a receipt for disaster IMHO. He has never had a 20 goal season. I know hockey is more then goals but 5.5M for a third line center coming off injury. Terrible
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 1 @ 4:02 PM ET
You honestly think that it's reasonable that with the shortage of available quality defenseman in the League, that a quality player like Ehrhoff was only contacted by one team?
- MJL

So you are saying it is inconceivable that the first team he talked to he signed with.. and didnt look elsewhere?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:02 PM ET
I thought it was 2M base and 2M in bonuses?
- MJL


Not according to capgeek.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 4:03 PM ET
didnt the Minnesota Wild sign him?
- watsonnostaw



Haha yeah, rode the carousel w/ Bryz
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 4:03 PM ET
Jim stark is having an explosion over MacDonald on Twitter
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 1 @ 4:04 PM ET
If Hexy can get some bargain basement deals for a couple solid forwards I'll be happy.

Kulemin still available, right ?

- MrBigglesworth

Yes he is along with setoguchi,heatley,riberio,booth, grabovski and ott
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:05 PM ET
So you are saying it is inconceivable that the first team he talked to he signed with.. and didnt look elsewhere?
- jak521



Free Agency is a two way street. Teams can contact him. And lot of times it's just faxes of offers sent to an agent. I'd be willing to bet that he received a bunch of interest and offers.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 4:05 PM ET
Flyers should sign Heatley for 1 year 1 m
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:05 PM ET
Free Agency is a two way street. Teams can contact him. And lot of times it's just faxes of offers sent to an agent. I'd be willing to bet that he received a bunch of interest and offers.
- MJL


I'd bet my house on it...
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:05 PM ET
Orpik

no question

- BiggE

Agreed.

In my defence I will say:

"Between a douche and a turd sandwich"
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