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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:46 PM ET
Of course, the problem with that, is that would guarantee them eating into LTIR right away, which would guarantee Kimmo's (and all other) bonuses would hit us hard the next season.
- Tomahawk



This is where it helps to know the numbers. If we assume that Timonen's bonuses are easily obtained, and that he will make them. The Flyers would have to cut about 7M in salary off the team to ensure that they won't have a bonus overage due to Timonen's contract in 15/16.
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:46 PM ET
at this point, I can live with dany Heatley
- SuperSchennBros


Heatley was absolutely awful last season. zero gas left in the tank.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:46 PM ET
Sarah Baicker @sbaickerCSN · 15m

Sets up a likely Zepp-Stolarz pairing with the Phantoms ... Which is a lot of the letter Z, when you think about it.


THATZ A LOTZ OF Z'ZZZZ
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:46 PM ET
For those hoping the Flyers may take a run at an rfa, they have no 2nd or 3rd round pick next season.
- PhillySportsGuy

Grossmann to Columbus for our third rounder back then sign Johansen to a $5 million offer sheet!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:47 PM ET
Worst signing of the day this far: Bolland @5.5M 5yr?

or

- coffee junkie


Engellands was pretty bad too. There are a lot of bad deals.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:47 PM ET
Yes I can read cap geek as well. But thx.
- landros 2


Capgeek does not give the numbers that were posted there. As I've said multiple times. Capgeek does not give a true picture of a team's actual cap space. They select a likely roster and give an estimate of a team's cap picture for the season. They also don't keep the off season cap picture for teams.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:47 PM ET
Grossmann to Columbus for our third rounder back then sign Johansen to a $5 million offer sheet!
- TobyFlenderson


I'm sure Columbus wouldn't match that...
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:48 PM ET
This is where it helps to know the numbers. If we assume that Timonen's bonuses are easily obtained, and that he will make them. The Flyers would have to cut about 7M in salary off the team to ensure that they won't have a bonus overage due to Timonen's contract in 15/16.
- MJL


His max bonus is only $1.5m. It's not an Iginla-type situation.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:49 PM ET
I'm sure Columbus wouldn't match that...
- PhillySportsGuy

No chance, they only have like $20 million in cap space.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 3:49 PM ET
Anyone know if Andre Benoit signed? Just thinking in case grossmann is moved someone that could come in on maybe a 1 or 2 year deal
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:49 PM ET
Sarah Baicker @sbaickerCSN · 15m

Sets up a likely Zepp-Stolarz pairing with the Phantoms ... Which is a lot of the letter Z, when you think about it.


THATZ A LOTZ OF Z'ZZZZ

- Streit2ThePoint

well what else is she going to comment on her nails?
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:50 PM ET
Engellands was pretty bad too. There are a lot of bad deals.
- PhillySportsGuy

Think it's worse?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 3:50 PM ET
I'm sure Columbus wouldn't match that...
- PhillySportsGuy



Columbus would love that.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:50 PM ET
Stralman is 5/$4.5. CapGeek repeats 3 years twice making it look like 8.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:50 PM ET
The point is, nobody knows why he took what he took... It is purely speculation.
- jak521



The point is it's pretty easy to make an educated guess. And when you look around the league, at what some other players got. And recognize what kind of player Ehrhoff is. And knowing the facts of where he played perviously, and the buyout he just received. It's pretty easy to come to the conclusion of why he took the deal he did.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jul 1 @ 3:51 PM ET
This is where it helps to know the numbers. If we assume that Timonen's bonuses are easily obtained, and that he will make them. The Flyers would have to cut about 7M in salary off the team to ensure that they won't have a bonus overage due to Timonen's contract in 15/16.
- MJL


I am not implying you are in this category, but based on how bad a scenario some posters seem to think this team is in....Kimmo could be traded at the deadline to a contender for "his shot at a cup run" and we wont even see the bonus's!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:52 PM ET
Think it's worse?
- coffee junkie


Orpik might be the worst. He's cooked. Bolland is a decent player when healthy. He's not worth the money, but he's still effective. Orpik may be a net negative.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 1 @ 3:53 PM ET
The point is it's pretty easy to make an educated guess. And when you look around the league, at what some other players got. And recognize what kind of player Ehrhoff is. And knowing the facts of where he played perviously, and the buyout he just received. It's pretty easy to come to the conclusion of why he took the deal he did.
- MJL

yeah, to play with a winning team
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jul 1 @ 3:53 PM ET
Anyone know if Andre Benoit signed? Just thinking in case grossmann is moved someone that could come in on maybe a 1 or 2 year deal
- J35Bacher


I thought Edmonton locked him down yesterday
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:54 PM ET
yeah, to play with a winning team
- watsonnostaw


Buffalo isn't a winning team?
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 1 @ 3:54 PM ET
When I woke up today I didn't think the US soccer game would be the highlight of the day but it's looking like it!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:54 PM ET
I am being reasonable. When one poster said that he thought it would be cool if we could have gotten Ehrhoff for that contract another poster basically told him that it wouldnt have been the same because he took that contract just to play for that team... Nobody knows why exactly he settled for what he settled for... All that we ALL know is that he took a good bit of a cut to play for Pitt... Hell, Pitt might have been the only team that contacted him for all we know. Who knows.
- jak521



You honestly think that it's reasonable that with the shortage of available quality defenseman in the League, that a quality player like Ehrhoff was only contacted by one team?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:55 PM ET
Retweeted by Sarah Baicker
John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet 3m
Here are some guys yet to sign... in Goal: Brodeur, Thomas, Nabokov, Vokoun, Emery,Giguere. #SNSigningSeason

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coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:55 PM ET
Orpik might be the worst. He's cooked. Bolland is a decent player when healthy. He's not worth the money, but he's still effective. Orpik may be a net negative.
- PhillySportsGuy

Well played sir, I did temporarily forget Orpik. Perhaps the Bolland trade weighs more for me because Vinny would have been a better option for them and at less.
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:55 PM ET
If Hexy can get some bargain basement deals for a couple solid forwards I'll be happy.

Kulemin still available, right ?
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