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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
Vincent Lecavalier is a hockey player.
- jmatchett383


I disagree.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
Ehrhoff was only going to take that deal to play for a team that he feels is ready to win now. That's why he was willing to sign that deal in Pittsburgh.
- MJL

Must be tough, ya know, representing Christian Ehrhoff and spending all day on Hockeybuzz.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:50 PM ET
No I like calling BS.....when it's BS .
- landros 2



Later on tonight when I get home from work I'll give the exact numbers. Of both off season cap space, and space for the season. We'll find out what is BS. Deal?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:50 PM ET
Must be tough, ya know, representing Christian Ehrhoff and spending all day on Hockeybuzz.
- jak521



If you disagree, say so and why. Or this direction can be taken.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
Ek, was reporting that the Sabres may have interest in Vinny as well.
Hextall has repeatedly said that the most likely option is for Vinny to stay in Philly. so I won't be shocked if he's here another year.
Ehrhoff wanted to become Niskanen
Get on a team which will help him put up massive points for a year and then he can get paid. I doubt he would have given us even remotely the same deal. But I agree it would have been nice.

- FlyersGrace


I think they would have had to give him a deal similar to MacDonald, maybe a bit less in term.

Cant blame the player there. He made a good deal for now and for the future. Wonder where Niskanen ends. Detriot could be a sleeper.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
Vincent Lecavalier is a hockey player.
- jmatchett383

No he isn't, look at the numbers and Corsi is meaningless!
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
Wonder if there's any NTC/NMC there. It's (maybe) important to remember AMac's deal doesn't have anything. If one was included, maybe some dollars would have come off.
- eayost


Yeah, MacDonald wanted the most money possible so if he gets traded I don't want to hear any complaints from him or his agent.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
No I like calling BS.....when it's BS .
- landros 2

This is a quote from MJL from earlier in one of our threads. I forget where, but I liked it so much I kept it. I thought it clearly explained everything. He has his faults but when it comes to the cap I listen.

"Here is the deal with the Flyers cap picture. Essentially once the Flyers decide how to approach placing Pronger on LTIR, the Flyers upper limit for the season will be $73,942,429. They currently stand at $69,236,429. Giving them $4,706,000 to play with.

Now as far as the off season cap picture in concerned. Flyers were fortunate to not have that many injuries last season. So that helps with the off season cap picture. With the 10% off season exemption kicking in, the Flyers currently have $6,210,482 of off season cap space. That could change if they decide to qualify Gustafsson. Which would decrease that by 1M."
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
Vincent Lecavalier is a hockey player.
- jmatchett383



Who will be traded to Nashville for Victor Stalberg and Carter Hutton
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 1 @ 2:52 PM ET
Shut up. (frank) you're annoying.
- Flyers1218


Someone needs a nap
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:52 PM ET
Later on tonight when I get home from work I'll give the exact numbers. Of both off season cap space, and space for the season. We'll find out what is BS. Deal?
- MJL


I'll wait with baited breath.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:53 PM ET
It's actually 5 years at $4.5 million.
- Feanor


Holy crap, Capgeek has Stalman at 8/$4.5! wtf if true.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 2:54 PM ET
This is a quote from MJL from earlier in one of our threads. I forget where, but I liked it so much I kept it. I thought it clearly explained everything. He has his faults but when it comes to the cap I listen.

"Here is the deal with the Flyers cap picture. Essentially once the Flyers decide how to approach placing Pronger on LTIR, the Flyers upper limit for the season will be $73,942,429. They currently stand at $69,236,429. Giving them $4,706,000 to play with.

Now as far as the off season cap picture in concerned. Flyers were fortunate to not have that many injuries last season. So that helps with the off season cap picture. With the 10% off season exemption kicking in, the Flyers currently have $6,210,482 of off season cap space. That could change if they decide to qualify Gustafsson. Which would decrease that by 1M."

- FlyersGrace


Of course, the problem with that, is that would guarantee them eating into LTIR right away, which would guarantee Kimmo's (and all other) bonuses would hit us hard the next season.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:54 PM ET
Holy crap, Capgeek has Stalman at 8/$4.5! wtf if true.
- jstross

i think max term he can sign is 7 years
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:54 PM ET
Someone needs a nap
- funmaster18

I do!
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
This is a quote from MJL from earlier in one of our threads. I forget where, but I liked it so much I kept it. I thought it clearly explained everything. He has his faults but when it comes to the cap I listen.

"Here is the deal with the Flyers cap picture. Essentially once the Flyers decide how to approach placing Pronger on LTIR, the Flyers upper limit for the season will be $73,942,429. They currently stand at $69,236,429. Giving them $4,706,000 to play with.

Now as far as the off season cap picture in concerned. Flyers were fortunate to not have that many injuries last season. So that helps with the off season cap picture. With the 10% off season exemption kicking in, the Flyers currently have $6,210,482 of off season cap space. That could change if they decide to qualify Gustafsson. Which would decrease that by 1M."

- FlyersGrace



Yes I can read cap geek as well. But thx.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
AMac at 5 years 4.25M per with full NMC or 5 years 5M per with no clauses? Which is preferable?

I don't know to be honest, nor do I know how much one "costs".
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
Again... how don't they have money? They have assets that can potentially be liquidated. On top of the $4+ cap space they have to spend, they can trade any number of players with NTC/NMC. I listed the numbers earlier... apparently you just like arguing with MJL...
- WarriorHockey21



It's hilarious and sad how many people this applies to.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
Mighty testy in here today.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
Later on tonight when I get home from work I'll give the exact numbers. Of both off season cap space, and space for the season. We'll find out what is BS. Deal?
- MJL

lol you work mjl?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
I want Marty Broduer for one year to help mason and be a solid back up. And how great it would piss of the Devils
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
Yes I can read cap geek as well. But thx.
- landros 2


Obviously you can't... lol
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
Of course, the problem with that, is that would guarantee them eating into LTIR right away, which would guarantee Kimmo's (and all other) bonuses would hit us hard next season.
- Tomahawk

I think Timmonen's bonus is the only one which would hit us next season (not sure if anyone else has any bonuses with the Schenn re-sign). I could be wrong there. And I agree if we don't need to use it then we shouldn't. But we need that goalie so I think they are going to have to use the LTIR barring a trade.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
AMac at 5 years 4.25M per with full NMC or 5 years 5M per with no clauses? Which is preferable?

I don't know to be honest, nor do I know how much one "costs".

- eayost


It's 6 years at $5M, but I still prefer the latter.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:57 PM ET
I want Marty Broduer for one year to help mason and be a solid back up. And how great it would piss of the Devils
- J35Bacher


Not gonna happen. Flyers will be stuck with Emery again.
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