it will be xmas day today when vinny&grossssmannn are gone

I think he's good offensively. He seemed to be on his way to being a good player. I don't know what happened
- PhillySportsGuy

I'd like a defenseman to be good at defense primarily and then worry about offense. If you can't, you're not good. If Mark Streit looks like a shutdown defender compared to you, and you're a defenseman, you don't belong in the NHL.

Factoring in the injury history of that lineup, I'm gonna go ahead and say they'd likely win the NHL draft lottery.
- johndewar

Injury is a big problem.


Now, my next question is, after looking at this, how many of these guys would you want on the FLyers?

I have a feeling Flyers sign Keaton Ellerby at some point in next few days as their 7th defenseman.
- sulshawn

I'd be happy if the Philadelphia Wings signed Ellerby, because Keaton Ellerby sounds like a fantastic lacrosse name.

it will be xmas day today when vinny&grossssmannn are gone
- SMS4016

As long as I get to watch A Christmas Story for 24 hours straight, I'm happy.

Injury is a big problem.


Now, my next question is, after looking at this, how many of these guys would you want on the FLyers?
- nails

If money was no issue, 7:
Jokinen
Grabovski
Pouliot
Goc
Stralman
Fayne
Hiller

Injury is a big problem.


Now, my next question is, after looking at this, how many of these guys would you want on the FLyers?
- nails

I've always like Marty Havlat, but I think he's declining and always hurt.

Otherwise, I'd pass on the lot of them.

Really? You don't say...

- BiggE

Well if that's the response why compare him to another player using goals and points?

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- jmatchett383

Page ruiner

Page ruiner
- jak521

At least I chopped it back.

As long as I get to watch A Christmas Story for 24 hours straight, I'm happy.
- jmatchett383

no such luck. you WILL be right here trying like the rest of us to figure out what the hell philly is doing

As long as I get to watch A Christmas Story for 24 hours straight, I'm happy.
- jmatchett383

it will be xmas day today when vinny&grossssmannn are gone
- SMS4016

Dunno if you'll get it. I STILL LIKE GROSSMANN. As much as he's maligned on this board we need a player like him until the kids are ready to go.
I'd be sad to see him go. For the right deal though I could part with just about anyone.

If money was no issue, about 5.
- jmatchett383

yup.
most of the other NHL teams feel the same way.
so those 5 guys are probably getting paid more than you would want to spend and the guys that I excluded, the better ones, are really getting more than you want to spend.
(frank) this free agent group. Even if we were to move Vinny and/or Grossman, we are going to overpay in $ and term for their replacement and then be pissed next year

Well if that's the response why compare him to another player using goals and points?
- MJL

I think the point is that certain enforcers are able to chip in some points every once in a while. Teams don't sign an enforcer to score goals, but it's nice thing when they can give you 5 goals and 15 points during the season.

I think the point is that certain enforcers are able to chip in some points every once in a while. Teams don't sign an enforcer to score goals, but it's nice thing when they can give you 5 goals and 15 points during the season.
- PhillySportsGuy

And those type of player normally are players who play regularly, and cost more.

Dunno if you'll get it. I STILL LIKE GROSSMANN. As much as he's maligned on this board we need a player like him until the kids are ready to go.
I'd be sad to see him go. For the right deal though I could part with just about anyone.
- FlyersGrace

I'd rather move Streit, and sign Erhoff than sign Grossmann. In fact, if Alt is playing well for the Phantoms by mid season, I'd think about moving AMac for some more scoring on the wing and/or a decent draft pick and go with:
Coburn-Erhoff
Timonen-Schenn
Grossmann-Alt

I've always like Marty Havlat, but I think he's declining and always hurt.

Otherwise, I'd pass on the lot of them.
- johndewar

If Havlat were able to play, say, 2 healthy 75 game season with G and V, that would be good money. maybe a bit soft though.

I think the point is that certain enforcers are able to chip in some points every once in a while. Teams don't sign an enforcer to score goals, but it's nice thing when they can give you 5 goals and 15 points during the season.
- PhillySportsGuy

Thanks. I thought it was obvious.

Dunno if you'll get it. I STILL LIKE GROSSMANN. As much as he's maligned on this board we need a player like him until the kids are ready to go.
I'd be sad to see him go. For the right deal though I could part with just about anyone.
- FlyersGrace

speed. speed. speed

Guys I may check on today:

TJ Brennan
TJ Galiardi
Leo Komarov
Chad Johnson
Thomas Griess
Peter Meuller


I can't name any bigger ones until I move some salray. If Ducks want a rugged stay at home d then Grossmann would be perfect. Maybe you can get someone like Matt Beleskey or Patrick Maroon back as they can fill in on third line and Beleskey seemed to do well riding shotgun with getzlaf and perry. Or maybe a Sami Vatanen

why not move Grossman first?
- nails

yeah i am done with big slow stay at home dmen.

I'd rather move Streit, and sign Erhoff than sign Grossmann. In fact, if Alt is playing well for the Phantoms by mid season, I'd think about moving AMac for some more scoring on the wing and/or a decent draft pick and go with:
Coburn-Erhoff
Timonen-Schenn
Grossmann-Alt
- BiggE

I like those in theory.. but who are your 7th and 8th Dmen? Because Timonen is pretty much worn down and worn out, and Grossman is a cringe-worthy hit away from being out with a knee injury for weeks...

If Havlat were able to play, say, 2 healthy 75 game season with G and V, that would be good money. maybe a bit soft though.
- nails

If they did sign Havlat, at least they could finally make him "eat his lunch"


I miss Hitch sometimes

I'd rather move Streit, and sign Erhoff than sign Grossmann. In fact, if Alt is playing well for the Phantoms by mid season, I'd think about moving AMac for some more scoring on the wing and/or a decent draft pick and go with:
Coburn-Erhoff
Timonen-Schenn
Grossmann-Alt
- BiggE

ghost will be on this roster