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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:41 AM ET
Prediction:

Flyers will possibly do something to their roster today. Regardless of that action or inaction, some people will like it and some people will not like as much.

- jmatchett383


Also, it will likely involve hockey players.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:41 AM ET
How would you guys feel about trading a pick/prospect (3rd/Straka) and trying to get Jakob Markstrom out of Vancouver?
- jmatchett383


Vinny?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:41 AM ET
Why is Dave Bolland trying to command some kind of high money, long term deal? Can anyone clue me in here?
- eayost


2010, 2013
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:41 AM ET
How would you guys feel about trading a pick/prospect (3rd/Straka) and trying to get Jakob Markstrom out of Vancouver?
- jmatchett383


They may ask who straka is
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
How would you guys feel about trading a pick/prospect (3rd/Straka) and trying to get Jakob Markstrom out of Vancouver?
- jmatchett383


I would have interest. Flyers have no 2nd or 3rd rounder next year though. I would like to see them stop dealing picks.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
Why is Dave Bolland trying to command some kind of high money, long term deal? Can anyone clue me in here?
- eayost

Because it seems at least one team wants to give him that deal
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
They may ask who straka is
- funmaster18


Just using an example. However, being as he was picked 55th overall in 2010, they may have a clue of who he is.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
I would have interest. Flyers have no 2nd or 3rd rounder next year though. I would like to see them stop dealing picks.
- PhillySportsGuy


I have no problem with dealing picks if the player you're getting is young enough and projects to be better than what you'd expect to get with the pick.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
Why is Dave Bolland trying to command some kind of high money, long term deal? Can anyone clue me in here?
- eayost


It's not about how much he's worth. It's about what someone will pay him.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
Because it seems at least one team wants to give him that deal
- BulliesPhan87


It sounds like the Leafs have made a bunch of offers of like 5Y 5M AAV or so…. and he wants MORE? The hell? He's never scored 20 goals
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
I have no problem with dealing picks if the player you're getting is young enough and projects to be better than what you'd expect to get with the pick.
- jmatchett383


I agree. Markstrom seems like he's ready to get some NHL action though. Would you rather have him split time with Stolarz in the AHL or get 15-20 games backing up Mason?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
It sounds like the Leafs have made a bunch of offers of like 5Y 5M AAV or so…. and he wants MORE? The hell? He's never scored 20 goals
- eayost

Hey, if they're willing to give him that money, he'd be crazy to pass it up.

Edit: I get what you're saying though, it is a lot of cash for Bolland
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 10:45 AM ET
Pronger's injury was more of a fluke though. He suffered the concussion from taking a stick to the eye. It was a cumulative effect like Savard.

There really is no way to fix it. I was hoping they'd wipe the slate clean for both teams. It was fairly obvious that both players weren't faking. They were both still playing at a very high level prior to the injury.

- PhillySportsGuy



Maybe they can find a way to have something like LTIR but a little different. Something like a Long Term Disability List. You can place a guy on there with a career ending injury. Has to go through all the LTIR protocal things and be medically not cleared. If placed on there then you get paid but the money doesn't count against the cap. Maybe you can only put so much money on this list and if over then have to use LTIR.


funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
Just using an example. However, being as he was picked 55th overall in 2010, they may have a clue of who he is.
- jmatchett383


why haven't I heard much noise about him?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
I agree. Markstrom seems like he's ready to get some NHL action though. Would you rather have him split time with Stolarz in the AHL or get 15-20 games backing up Mason?
- PhillySportsGuy


Crap...I totally meant to say Joacim Eriksson. Me=stupid.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
It works out that I'm very free starting at noon eastern time as well
- eayost

So is hextall
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:47 AM ET
why haven't I heard much noise about him?
- funmaster18


Because he plays for the Phantoms and was a UFA signing after a strong overage season.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:47 AM ET
Because he plays for the Phantoms and was a UFA signing after a strong overage season.
- jmatchett383


I've heard plenty about other flyers prospects
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:48 AM ET
Maybe they can find a way to have something like LTIR but a little different. Something like a Long Term Disability List. You can place a guy on there with a career ending injury. Has to go through all the LTIR protocal things and be medically not cleared. If placed on there then you get paid but the money doesn't count against the cap. Maybe you can only put so much money on this list and if over then have to use LTIR.
- J35Bacher


It could be used for circumvention though. You can't tell a player how badly he's hurt. Especially, with head injuries. Whats to stop Hossa from retiring at 40 and saying his head hurts and he can't play?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
Crap...I totally meant to say Joacim Eriksson. Me=stupid.
- jmatchett383




Yeah. I didn't want to poop on your trade proposal, but I thought Straka+3rd was pretty low for a legit goalie prospect
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
I agree and I'm not saying the Flyers are circumventing the cap at all. The intent of the rule was to prevent teams from signing veterans for term longer than reasonable given their age. So it wasn't the case with Pronger/Savard, but their teams are still dealing with the liability....how does the league free the teams without setting the precedent that moving an older player to LTIR can be used to avoid the intended rule?

Medical opinion is not something that rules handle well.

- magmoo


The intent of the LTIR rule was not to prevent teams from signing veterans for term longer then reasonable given their age. That is the 35+ rule. A team has to document the injury medically to obtain LTIR status for a player.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
I've heard plenty about other flyers prospects
- funmaster18


Well, he was 7th on the team in scoring (4th in Pts/GP) as an AHL rookie. I suggest you read up more on our farm system if that's the case.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:49 AM ET


Yeah. I didn't want to poop on your trade proposal, but I thought Straka+3rd was pretty low for a legit goalie prospect

- PhillySportsGuy


That's what I was thinking. Makes more sense if te wrong goalie was mentioned
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
Why is Dave Bolland trying to command some kind of high money, long term deal? Can anyone clue me in here?
- eayost



Cup-winning goal = millionz
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
trade Lecav!
Sign Vanek!

VANEK OR BUST!!!
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