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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 30 @ 9:35 PM ET
Finally, some reinforcements.
- BetterCallSaul


You just wait
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 30 @ 9:35 PM ET
But what forward? We don't have any under contract that I'd be willing to move for Gorges, a guy who doesn't want to be here and who's team can't wait to get rid of.
- gravyface


Maybe the rights to someone? A half assed prospect?
coolehmon41
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:37 PM ET
Of that list, only gauthier and Franson would be ok in my book
- Feeling Glucky?



I wouldnt be okay with Gauthier. I see the way u guys clown the kid and Im not sure why. He's a 19 yr old, 6'5 center with boat loads of confidence who is getting better. Why not wait a few years before we do something stupid and give him up for nothing.
coolehmon41
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:37 PM ET
Maybe the rights to someone? A half assed prospect?
- systemtool



Komarov
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:38 PM ET
Maybe the rights to someone? A half assed prospect?
- systemtool



Gauthier...go with the french thing...
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 30 @ 9:38 PM ET
I wouldnt be okay with Gauthier. I see the way u guys clown the kid and Im not sure why. He's a 19 yr old, 6'5 center with boat loads of confidence who is getting better. Why not wait a few years before we do something stupid and give him up for nothing.
- coolehmon41


#Leafs
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:38 PM ET
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06/30/2014 Michael Del Zotto (D) Nashville Predators Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA https://twitter.com/TSNBo...status/483713597734805504 0
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06/30/2014 James Martin (D) Calgary Flames Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724590&navid=DL|CGY|home 0
06/30/2014 David Eddy (F) Calgary Flames Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724590&navid=DL|CGY|home 0
06/30/2014 T.J. Galiardi (F) Calgary Flames Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724590&navid=DL|CGY|home 0
06/30/2014 Paul Byron (F) Calgary Flames Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724590&navid=DL|CGY|home 0
06/30/2014 Steve Quailer (F) Los Angeles Kings Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA https://twitter.com/LAKin...status/483685484489875456 0
06/30/2014 Jonathan Parker (F) Los Angeles Kings Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA https://twitter.com/LAKin...status/483685484489875456 0
06/30/2014 James Livingston (F) Los Angeles Kings Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA https://twitter.com/LAKin...status/483685484489875456 0
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Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D...
Joined: 08.07.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:39 PM ET
I hear ya. I recently did some good and earned a vacay on my own. Im totally cashing in.
- systemtool

Ness and I pretty much never had vacay in our life so we will both enjoy it when we get the chance.

Also, she is not like everyone else's nag of a wife... she will swill back the booze a party like us also. She's Albertan for (frank)sakes!
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:39 PM ET

- AdamFrench


except that adam French dude
LeafsFan23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld, ON
Joined: 07.23.2009

Jun 30 @ 9:40 PM ET
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06/30/2014 Adam Comrie (D) San Jose Sharks Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA http://sharks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724637&navid=DL|SJS|home 0
06/30/2014 Sena Acolatse (D) San Jose Sharks Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA http://sharks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724637&navid=DL|SJS|home 0
06/30/2014 Ryan White (F) Montréal Canadiens Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA https://twitter.com/Canad...status/483717302677143552 0
06/30/2014 Peter Delmas (G) Montréal Canadiens Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA https://twitter.com/Canad...status/483717302677143552 0
06/30/2014 Robert Czarnik (F) Montréal Canadiens Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA https://twitter.com/Canad...status/483717302677143552 0
06/30/2014 Michael Del Zotto (D) Nashville Predators Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA https://twitter.com/TSNBo...status/483713597734805504 0
06/30/2014 Josh Beaulieu (F) Evansville Icemen Retired http://evansvilleicemen.c...beaulieu-assistant-coach/ 0
06/30/2014 Olivier Roy (G) Calgary Flames Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724590&navid=DL|CGY|home 0
06/30/2014 James Martin (D) Calgary Flames Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724590&navid=DL|CGY|home 0
06/30/2014 David Eddy (F) Calgary Flames Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724590&navid=DL|CGY|home 0
06/30/2014 T.J. Galiardi (F) Calgary Flames Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724590&navid=DL|CGY|home 0
06/30/2014 Paul Byron (F) Calgary Flames Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724590&navid=DL|CGY|home 0
06/30/2014 Steve Quailer (F) Los Angeles Kings Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA https://twitter.com/LAKin...status/483685484489875456 0
06/30/2014 Jonathan Parker (F) Los Angeles Kings Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA https://twitter.com/LAKin...status/483685484489875456 0
06/30/2014 James Livingston (F) Los Angeles Kings Unknown No qualifying offer, will become a UFA https://twitter.com/LAKin...status/483685484489875456 0
06/30/2014 Josh Caron (F) Minnesota Wild Unknown

- AdamFrench


Now this is how you make a post !!! More scrambled than scrambled eggs
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:42 PM ET
You also don't trade Vezina-winning goalies for Andrew (frank)ing Raycroft.
- Not_Stee

Which vezina winning goalie at the time did the leafs trade for raycroft?

Hey I am not defending the Leafs history (that was a different management) but this whole spazzing out over every single move is ludicrous. You see the people going nuts because we bought out tim Gleason? Tim (frank)ing gleason. Tim gleason man. Uproar because tim Gleason will not be on our team next year. The trade for Gunnarsson. Uproar. Gunnarsson .

The guy has done (frank) all in years. Cannot do one aspect of the game well.major uproar.

We will have months, if not years of stats of how many goals kuli scores with malkin. How that affects the Leafs, I do not know. Of course he will score more with malkin than holland and Clarkson, but no, we will (frank)ing hear about it for a long long time
xxCHRISTOFIRExx
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Could Kessel do the Kessel run
Joined: 04.28.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:42 PM ET
Well Mackenzie furry muff, Dreger, not so much.if they wanna pay subban 8 milly willy then I wouldnsuggest as little salary going back as poss. Could be Gauthier. Could be Leivo. Could be verhague. Could be them and picks. Could be just picks. Franson, finn, percy. At the end of the day, its josh georges. As bad as we view Leaf management, tim, david and brendan have been around the game long enough to know you don't trade one of your centres when you only have two.
- walshyleafsfan


Ya I can't see it being a piece with actually value to this roster now. I could see it being Franson and a prospect. I wouldn't pay them anymore.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:42 PM ET
Now this is how you make a post !!! More scrambled than scrambled eggs
- LeafsFan23

It's the swath of poop going to free agency.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:44 PM ET
This should make everyone feel better.

FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Josh Leivo ($0.793m)
David Clarkson ($5.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Kenny Ryan ($0.715m)
Jerry D'Amigo ($0.851m) / Peter Holland ($1.000m) / Carter Ashton ($0.850m)
Jamie Devane ($0.700m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m) / Michael Del Zotto ($5.700m)
Roman Polak ($2.750m) / Cody Franson ($2.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($2.500m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m)
Petter Granberg ($0.800m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
Martin Brodeur ($1.500m)
BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)
Tim Gleason ($0.833m)
RETAINED SALARIES (0.29% of upper limit)
Carl Gunnarsson ($0.200m—6.35%)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,935,500; BONUSES: $1,082,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $64,500
Atreides
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Kelowna
Joined: 11.05.2009

Jun 30 @ 9:45 PM ET
A feasible deal is

Clarkson + 3rd-7th rd pick + retained salary (1 mil - 2.5 mil of 5.25 cap hit) for Gorges.

Depending on how much cap is retained, the pick changes.

So... Clarkson, 3rd, Leafs retain 1 mil (Habs take a 4.25 cap hit) for Gorges (3.9 cap hit goes to Leafs, Leafs have cap hit 4.9 mil from transaction)

(At this point, the Leafs are buying some of the Habs capspace for a 3rd rounder)

Or

Clarkson, 4th, Leafs retain 1.5 mil (Habs take a 3.75 cap hit) (down 150K from previous 3.9 mil), (3.9 cap hit goes to Leafs, Leafs have 5.4 mil cap hit from txn)

Or

Clarkson, 5th, Leafs retain 2.0 mil (Habs take a 3.25 cap hit) (down 650K from previous 3.9 mil cap), (3.9 cap hit goes to Leafs + 2 mil, Leafs have 5.9 mil cap hit from transaction),

At this point, Clarkson is making a salary equal to what he's roughly worth when he's playing to the best of his ability. Montreal may potentially be willing to do that deal, save 650K in cap & gain a draft pick.


I would not trade Lupul for Gorges.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 30 @ 9:47 PM ET
This should make everyone feel better.

FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Josh Leivo ($0.793m)
David Clarkson ($5.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Kenny Ryan ($0.715m)
Jerry D'Amigo ($0.851m) / Peter Holland ($1.000m) / Carter Ashton ($0.850m)
Jamie Devane ($0.700m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m) / Michael Del Zotto ($5.700m)
Roman Polak ($2.750m) / Cody Franson ($2.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($2.500m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m)
Petter Granberg ($0.800m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
Martin Brodeur ($1.500m)
BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)
Tim Gleason ($0.833m)
RETAINED SALARIES (0.29% of upper limit)
Carl Gunnarsson ($0.200m—6.35%)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,935,500; BONUSES: $1,082,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $64,500

- Leafland

MDZ at 5.7?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:48 PM ET
MDZ at 5.7?
- MTL1

Seems perfect for a guy not even retained by his team.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:48 PM ET
MDZ at 5.7?
- MTL1


Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 30 @ 9:49 PM ET
Which vezina winning goalie at the time did the leafs trade for raycroft?

Hey I am not defending the Leafs history (that was a different management) but this whole spazzing out over every single move is ludicrous. You see the people going nuts because we bought out tim Gleason? Tim (frank)ing gleason. Tim gleason man. Uproar because tim Gleason will not be on our team next year. The trade for Gunnarsson. Uproar. Gunnarsson .

The guy has done (frank) all in years. Cannot do one aspect of the game well.major uproar.

We will have months, if not years of stats of how many goals kuli scores with malkin. How that affects the Leafs, I do not know. Of course he will score more with malkin than holland and Clarkson, but no, we will (frank)ing hear about it for a long long time

- walshyleafsfan


Dude,

The buyouts last year
The Clarkson signing
Swapping d-men, but taking salary and giving up yet another draft choice
The Phaneuf contract, which they are trying to unload before it even kicks in
The Lupul contract
The Liles contract swapped for the Gleason contract
Buying out the Gleason contract so an up against the cap team can pay for nothing for the next 4 years (not that keeping him was any better, but it is still bad management all the way back to the Liles contract)
Mishandling Reimer to the point where there will be no return at all.

so yeah, there is reason to panic. This organization has proven they have no clue.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 30 @ 9:49 PM ET
Ness and I pretty much never had vacay in our life so we will both enjoy it when we get the chance.

Also, she is not like everyone else's nag of a wife... she will swill back the booze a party like us also. She's Albertan for (frank)sakes!

- Not_Stee


Yea man, you guys need to get away. Especially to a cheap island getaway with everything included. As relaxing and stress free as it gets.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 30 @ 9:50 PM ET
A feasible deal is

Clarkson + 3rd-7th rd pick + retained salary (1 mil - 2.5 mil of 5.25 cap hit) for Gorges.

Depending on how much cap is retained, the pick changes.

So... Clarkson, 3rd, Leafs retain 1 mil (Habs take a 4.25 cap hit) for Gorges (3.9 cap hit goes to Leafs, Leafs have cap hit 4.9 mil from transaction)

(At this point, the Leafs are buying some of the Habs capspace for a 3rd rounder)

Or

Clarkson, 4th, Leafs retain 1.5 mil (Habs take a 3.75 cap hit) (down 150K from previous 3.9 mil), (3.9 cap hit goes to Leafs, Leafs have 5.4 mil cap hit from txn)

Or

Clarkson, 5th, Leafs retain 2.0 mil (Habs take a 3.25 cap hit) (down 650K from previous 3.9 mil cap), (3.9 cap hit goes to Leafs + 2 mil, Leafs have 5.9 mil cap hit from transaction),

At this point, Clarkson is making a salary equal to what he's roughly worth when he's playing to the best of his ability. Montreal may potentially be willing to do that deal, save 650K in cap & gain a draft pick.


I would not trade Lupul for Gorges.

- Atreides


Sorry to burst your bubble - but the Habs are not trading for clarkson
I know he bleeds blue and all but no thanks
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:50 PM ET
MDZ at 5.7?
- MTL1

I see his potential....
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 30 @ 9:50 PM ET
This should make everyone feel better.

FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Josh Leivo ($0.793m)
David Clarkson ($5.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Kenny Ryan ($0.715m)
Jerry D'Amigo ($0.851m) / Peter Holland ($1.000m) / Carter Ashton ($0.850m)
Jamie Devane ($0.700m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m) / Michael Del Zotto ($5.700m)
Roman Polak ($2.750m) / Cody Franson ($2.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($2.500m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m)
Petter Granberg ($0.800m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
Martin Brodeur ($1.500m)
BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)
Tim Gleason ($0.833m)
RETAINED SALARIES (0.29% of upper limit)
Carl Gunnarsson ($0.200m—6.35%)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,935,500; BONUSES: $1,082,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $64,500

- Leafland


Del Zotto??
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 30 @ 9:51 PM ET
Ya I can't see it being a piece with actually value to this roster now. I could see it being Franson and a prospect. I wouldn't pay them anymore.
- xxCHRISTOFIRExx

Thats all i would give up, they save a couple mill.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 30 @ 9:51 PM ET
Seems perfect for a guy not even retained by his team.
- AdamFrench

Maybe he meant 570k
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