senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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what kind of stats...they are 2 different types of players
I think Polak is going to be a Mark Fraser type player...but better.
- Garnie
the ones that matter in this case where you can look past the bad season.. he had a bad season..one of the worst d. stats on the leafs..I still dont like the move |
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peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON Joined: 06.08.2012
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Meh, it's 200k. Peanuts and rather insignificant. I don't think 200k from a 69 million dollar salary cap is something to get hung up on. As for the 4th, sure it would have been nice keeping it...but it's a 4th freaking round pick. Those get tossed around like candy in todays NHL. I wasn't excited about having to pay it to make the swap, but we're more desperate for this move than they are, so whatever. Not a big deal. - systemtool
A dollar is worth a million when you're talking to the Leafs about cap space. |
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Phaneuf + Kadri + Lupul
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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thats fair
to me its just the compounding of these moves by nonis...that show to me at least...he really is lost now... he is just rotating the same crap in and out..its not really about Gunnarson.. just more questionable moves - senstroll
Yea...I hear ya. Still early in the offseason to worry too much. Kinda hard though to make major changes to the team without trading a JVR, Kadri, Kessel, Gards, Bernier, 1st rounders or Rielly. Tough spot to be in. |
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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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yeah but Spezza really bent them over the table and gave them a good (frank)ing. it was going to be hard enough to get a return on him anyway. but now knowing that this guy will simply reject most deals unless it's to one of his 2-3 preferred destinations? they're (frank)ed. if you're Dallas... what are you gonna offer? you're going to offer a pile of poop. - DoubleDown
Agreed. Although i'm not keen on the Sens, i don't like what he has done (or MSL for that matter) |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Can't tell if sarcastic or not? I hope so. - peddy-93
not sarcastic...was just a legit question..big time leaf fan..but not a big time watcher of the minor/OHL players etc.
isn't Nylander like 5'9"? |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Yea...I hear ya. Still early in the offseason to worry too much. Kinda hard though to make major changes to the team without trading a JVR, Kadri, Kessel, Gards, Bernier, 1st rounders or Rielly. Tough spot to be in. - systemtool
ya well say goodbye to JVR. to Montreal for Gorges. sucker. |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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ya well say goodbye to JVR. to Montreal for Gorges. sucker. - DoubleDown
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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the ones that matter in this case where you can look past the bad season.. he had a bad season..one of the worst d. stats on the leafs..I still dont like the move - senstroll
that's fair...not a big move..hopefully Polak comes in an erases the doubt |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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Phaneuf + Kadri + Lupul
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Barkov and Kulikov - MaximusAurelius
No and this is with my dislike of Phaneuf on the Leafs. |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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A dollar is worth a million when you're talking to the Leafs about cap space. - peddy-93
Okay....still peanuts compared to the overall numbers. |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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ya well say goodbye to JVR. to Montreal for Subban. sucker. - DoubleDown
*fixed* |
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Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Bolton, ON Joined: 09.11.2010
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You've said that before
J/k - walshyleafsfan
usually looks over his shoulder when he says it though.
i kid, i kid. |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Agreed. Although i'm not keen on the Sens, i don't like what he has done (or MSL for that matter) - walshyleafsfan
i can't stand the Senators. i think that entire organization and its fans is the NHL equivalent of a 14-year-old girl. but that's just bullpoop what he's doing. he's a punk and a female dog. |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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ya well say goodbye to JVR. to Montreal for Gorges. sucker. - DoubleDown
At least we kept our 1st! Progress! |
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lotempio8119
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: niagara falls Joined: 01.10.2012
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My thoughts are we should probably bring in a D man who can compliment Dion. Is Gardiner ready to play top minutes? Maybe Rielly can too? Im not opposed to bringing in Boyle on a 2 year deal.
I'd also swap out Franson for Gorges. |
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Gunnerson - Polak = Gagner - Purcell
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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I don't mind trading Gunnar for Polak, but is Polak an upgrade over Gunnar that warrants a 4th and retaining salary? Don't think so. - peddy-93
If you think Gunnar and Polak are about equal then really the Leafs spent a 4th to gain 200k in cap space.
Gunnar = 3.15
Polak + retained = 2.95
conclusion - this trade is being overanalyzed to death. The most important part of this trade is that Gardiner and Rielly are now the best LH dmen on the roster (for now) which should mean more opportunity for both. |
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Why didn't we take Ritchie...the guys a beast compared to that little midget we drafted? - Garnie
Excuse me? |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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i can't stand the Senators. i think that entire organization and its fans is the NHL equivalent of a 14-year-old girl. but that's just bullpoop what he's doing. he's a punk and a female dog. - DoubleDown
Post of the day.
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Not_Yan
St Louis Blues |
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Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes. Joined: 04.19.2013
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i can't stand the Senators. i think that entire organization and its fans is the NHL equivalent of a 14-year-old girl. but that's just bullpoop what he's doing. he's a punk and a female dog. - DoubleDown
Agreed. He should have accepted the Nashville deal IMHO. He was very well paid by the Sens and requested a trade to a smaller hockey market. No Canadian teams? Fine, but saying no to Nashville? GFY Spezza. |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Excuse me? - Nylanders_Flow
sorry there little guy, didn't see you |
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lotempio8119
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: niagara falls Joined: 01.10.2012
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Phaneuf + Kadri + Lupul
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Barkov and Kulikov - MaximusAurelius
Love that people are still willing to give up on Kadri still. 50 point season last year and still was inconsistent. |
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peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON Joined: 06.08.2012
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not sarcastic...was just a legit question..big time leaf fan..but not a big time watcher of the minor/OHL players etc.
isn't Nylander like 5'9"? - Garnie
You should watch videos on Nylander, his offensive instincts, skating and puck skills are elite. He also has a very good wrist shot. The most offensively talented player in the draft. |
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Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Bolton, ON Joined: 09.11.2010
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Why didn't we take Ritchie...the guys a beast compared to that little midget we drafted? - Garnie
trying to get a Pantene sponsorship... free shampoo's for the hotel in leafs square. |
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