B2B76
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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Yea either way it sucks lol. i really don't know how they are gonna pull this off. I want a lot of the same team back but that looks like a pipe dream right now - TPC
I just remember most of us blowing off all the changes 2 yrs ago by saying the core of the team was intact, but we saw how much harder it was even making the playoffs that next season. I love continuity, hate change. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Imagine if they actually decided to keep Richards? - TPC
I had that thought this morning, I don't see how it would have been possible even if we won the Cup and Richards been Conn Smythe |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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I just remember most of us blowing off all the changes 2 yrs ago by saying the core of the team was intact, but we saw how much harder it was even making the playoffs that next season. I love continuity, hate change. - B2B76
Yea, the Rangers showed last year what makes them successful is depth and being able to roll 4 lines throughout the game. Crazy to think that dominate 4th line we had is all about gone. |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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I had that thought this morning, I don't see how it would have been possible even if we won the Cup and Richards been Conn Smythe - jimbro83
Yea really. Rangers really lucked out he didn't get hurt at all along the way. |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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Yea, the Rangers showed last year what makes them successful is depth and being able to roll 4 lines throughout the game. Crazy to think that dominate 4th line we had is all about gone. - TPC
If Moore & Boyle are gone I can see Carcillo now coming back cheap (who else really is offering him much at this point?), Ryan Carter & one of our own kids filling out the extra wing. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Dan Boyle’s top five is reportedly Tampa Bay, Detroit, Toronto, the Rangers and Montreal. (Darren Dreger) |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Dan Boyle’s top five is reportedly Tampa Bay, Detroit, Toronto, the Rangers and Montreal. (Darren Dreger) - jimbro83
Was just about to post this....got me |
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KreiderBomb
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo Joined: 06.02.2014
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Agree totally Jan. I hate that this team goes through so much upheavel every offseason, enough! It took the team until the playoffs to really finally get it together, same as the year before before flaming out in the Boston series.
Our entire 4th line seems to be destined to be gone. Dom Moore actually might be the biggest loss in my opinion. It sucks having so much money tied up in a few players. - B2B76
What sucks is that if Moore wasn't a Ranger this past season and played how he played he'd be one tomorrow with a Salary north of $2 million, Sather blows, he continues to low ball his own players while kicking them in the groin |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Dan Boyle’s top five is reportedly Tampa Bay, Detroit, Toronto, the Rangers and Montreal. (Darren Dreger) - jimbro83
It wouldn't surprise me if MSL is pushing hard for the Rangers to bring in Boyle |
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MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers |
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Location: outside philthadelphia, PA Joined: 04.17.2007
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It wouldn't surprise me if MSL is pushing hard for the Rangers to bring in Boyle - TPC
for sub 3 million i'm game.. guy is getting old and i'm willing to give him a flyer at 2 years 6mil max! |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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for sub 3 million i'm game.. guy is getting old and i'm willing to give him a flyer at 2 years 6mil max! - MeltingPlastic
You would hope as long as he got the 2 years, he would take a little less as long as he could go somewhere where he had a chance to win a cup. But that doesn't seem to be the theme nowadays |
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KreiderBomb
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo Joined: 06.02.2014
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It wouldn't surprise me if MSL is pushing hard for the Rangers to bring in Boyle - TPC
If we let Stralman walk I'd rather kick the tires on Ehrhoff, lefty or not |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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If we let Stralman walk I'd rather kick the tires on Ehrhoff, lefty or not - KreiderBomb
I think he gets close to 6 million per...gonna be a bidding war for his services |
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KreiderBomb
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo Joined: 06.02.2014
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I think he gets close to 6 million per...gonna be a bidding war for his services - TPC
Well if that's the case I hope he draws attention away from Stralman |
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TPC
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Well if that's the case I hope he draws attention away from Stralman - KreiderBomb
He could, no one knew he was gonna be available til yesterday. Might give Sather a second chance to make a pitch for Stralman. |
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Slimtj100
New York Rangers |
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Sather needs to be very creative this summer
Like trading 1 player for 2 (ie- the Gaborik trade). I'm constantly looking at rosters and for instance Calgary. Both glencross and obrien are UFAs next year. Combined they make about 4.5. Would they like Moore and a prospect or pick for them? Not enough? I'd think Moore would be attractive to them because he's younger. Something like that would give is depth, grit an toughness all at once. Sure we get a bit older (both are 30) but among everything else with cap issues etc, Sather needs to focus on improving an address holes.
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Blueshirts16
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Location: Rangers Sweep Icelanders...go , NY Joined: 07.28.2009
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I've listened to this interview multiple times and have read about it. I might be te only one but I do not see where or when the jabs were thrown. He's actually right! Zucc has only had one good year which does hurt his negotiating. Pouliot has been a disappointment since he was drafted with only a couple if good seasons. He should stay keep doing well and maybe get paid later. Kreider has been up and down and very inconsistent although he has tremendous upside so he will have to be paid what guys his age and same talent level are getting which shouldn't be a problem. Stralman is looking to bank and I'm not so sure he's worth it, as good as he's been here. I think that these guys should take good contracts, stay together and try to win rather them cash in. But I'm just a fan |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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I've listened to this interview multiple times and have read about it. I might be te only one but I do not see where or when the jabs were thrown. He's actually right! Zucc has only had one good year which does hurt his negotiating. Pouliot has been a disappointment since he was drafted with only a couple if good seasons. He should stay keep doing well and maybe get paid later. Kreider has been up and down and very inconsistent although he has tremendous upside so he will have to be paid what guys his age and same talent level are getting which shouldn't be a problem. Stralman is looking to bank and I'm not so sure he's worth it, as good as he's been here. I think that these guys should take good contracts, stay together and try to win rather them cash in. But I'm just a fan - Blueshirts16
Don't but it. Slats has a history of for some reason bullying his own guys to save a buck not realizing it can really hurt him (us!) down the road. There's just no need for it. And the MSG buttboy crew always goes along for the ride, talking about leverage. He hammered Dubi a few yrs back, Stepan of course last yr, there's just no need to do it. |
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Slimtj100
New York Rangers |
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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I've listened to this interview multiple times and have read about it. I might be te only one but I do not see where or when the jabs were thrown. He's actually right! Zucc has only had one good year which does hurt his negotiating. Pouliot has been a disappointment since he was drafted with only a couple if good seasons. He should stay keep doing well and maybe get paid later. Kreider has been up and down and very inconsistent although he has tremendous upside so he will have to be paid what guys his age and same talent level are getting which shouldn't be a problem. Stralman is looking to bank and I'm not so sure he's worth it, as good as he's been here. I think that these guys should take good contracts, stay together and try to win rather them cash in. But I'm just a fan - Blueshirts16
This is what I don't understand, as far as Stralman. He's considered to get overpaid this summer by most if not all people. Most fans want the rangers to sign him because he had a decent season last year and a pretty good season this season for us. But if you put him on a different team under with same circumstance with his play, if we overpaid for him...it's pretty much a guarantee the same people that want him to stay, they would freak out because we overpayed. My point is, just because he's a ranger doesn't make him this great player that he should be overpaid because he's currently on the team. Wether we overpay for own players or someone elses it's the same thing, a dumb move.
Edit: it's the exact situation as Prust was. I was pissed they didn't keep him, and I was in the minority with it. The fact was it was to much for that particular player..Stralman shouldnt be overpaid to keep him either |
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Don't but it. Slats has a history of for some reason bullying his own guys to save a buck not realizing it can really hurt him (us!) down the road. There's just no need for it. And the MSG buttboy crew always goes along for the ride, talking about leverage. He hammered Dubi a few yrs back, Stepan of course last yr, there's just no need to do it. - B2B76
This is true, but realistically, we need to realize that our ufas asking prices are at an alltime high because of the scf run. If we pay them everything they want and then get ousted in the 1st or 2nd round a couple times, we'll be kicking ourselves. Its not a guarantee we make it to the scf let alone ecf again. It takes some luck along with the depth. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Larry Brooks
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Told that Islanders have been looking into Del Zotto, whose rights will either be dealt today by Nashville or who will not be qualified. |
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gkmkiller
New York Rangers |
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Location: Oceanside, CA Joined: 06.07.2009
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Guys, relax. I know we want to keep as much of the team together as possible but change is inevitable; particularly with the team's cap situation. And let's not talk about how much money we have tied up in just a few players. Most teams do that. You want to look at specifics?
St. Louis: More or less same AAV as the guy we dealt for him but little doubt St. Louis is the better player. Would you rather have Cally back at the contract he got with Tampa or more?
Nash: Yes, his cap hit is high but he is an elite talent. 40-goal scorers don't come available often and they are never cheap unless you get them on their ELC.
Hank: Would it have been better had he taken a bit less? Of course, even an extra $500K would have helped right now. But if we had let it go all the way to July, would we have made it to the Cup Final? Perhaps the ongoing distraction of the contract would have affected his play. Regardless, hard to find fault with the extension. Best player locked up for the foreseeable future.
Girardi: Again, a precious commodity in that he is a RH shot and is a legit, to-4 guy. Hard to find as we all should know well. Why do you think an aging Dan Boyle has five teams very interested in him? Why do you suppose Stralman turned down $4MM per from the Rangers just a little more than two years removed from not having a job. Remember, Toronto did not want him back and he couldn't even make the Devils roster after a training camp tryout.
As for trading Dorsett; chances are Carcillo will be back and will do roughly the same job for half the cost.
I would love Moore back but maybe he's asking for more money than I would have expected him to ask for.
We've talked endlessly about graduating our prospects. Well guess what, now we'll find out if they are good enough after all. |
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This is true, but realistically, we need to realize that our ufas asking prices are at an alltime high because of the scf run. If we pay them everything they want and then get ousted in the 1st or 2nd round a couple times, we'll be kicking ourselves. Its not a guarantee we make it to the scf let alone ecf again. It takes some luck along with the depth. - rangerdanger94
My main argument was that Sather failed by not signing these players before they reached free agency. Granted, it's a give and take and not all would be back, but can you honestly say Moore or Pouliot wouldn't have signed during the season? In addition, what about the way he negotiates with his own players, as seen with Stepan and Zuccarello plus others? It's the overall package that is concerning. I agree, certain players have an overinflated sense of self and value, partly due to the SCF run, but a lot of that could have been obviated with smarter and timelier negotiating. |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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This is true, but realistically, we need to realize that our ufas asking prices are at an alltime high because of the scf run. If we pay them everything they want and then get ousted in the 1st or 2nd round a couple times, we'll be kicking ourselves. Its not a guarantee we make it to the scf let alone ecf again. It takes some luck along with the depth. - rangerdanger94
Exactly.
This is when that youth everyone wants to keep every year is gonna be worthy of holding on too
Everyone of these UFAs is replaceable by one way or another. The main core is here signed and still in or nearing its prime. Assuming the RFA situation is not a disaster I'm really not concerned. The 4th line for instance has plentiful options out there. The new term is continuity, and I do agree it would be nice, but is continuity worth overpaying for?? I completely disagree with that. You have 82 games to establish continuity with different people. |
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Guys, relax. I know we want to keep as much of the team together as possible but change is inevitable; particularly with the team's cap situation. And let's not talk about how much money we have tied up in just a few players. Most teams do that. You want to look at specifics?
St. Louis: More or less same AAV as the guy we dealt for him but little doubt St. Louis is the better player. Would you rather have Cally back at the contract he got with Tampa or more?
Nash: Yes, his cap hit is high but he is an elite talent. 40-goal scorers don't come available often and they are never cheap unless you get them on their ELC.
Hank: Would it have been better had he taken a bit less? Of course, even an extra $500K would have helped right now. But if we had let it go all the way to July, would we have made it to the Cup Final? Perhaps the ongoing distraction of the contract would have affected his play. Regardless, hard to find fault with the extension. Best player locked up for the foreseeable future.
Girardi: Again, a precious commodity in that he is a RH shot and is a legit, to-4 guy. Hard to find as we all should know well. Why do you think an aging Dan Boyle has five teams very interested in him? Why do you suppose Stralman turned down $4MM per from the Rangers just a little more than two years removed from not having a job. Remember, Toronto did not want him back and he couldn't even make the Devils roster after a training camp tryout.
As for trading Dorsett; chances are Carcillo will be back and will do roughly the same job for half the cost.
I would love Moore back but maybe he's asking for more money than I would have expected him to ask for.
We've talked endlessly about graduating our prospects. Well guess what, now we'll find out if they are good enough after all. - gkmkiller
You pacifist you |
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