Renaud Lavoie@renlavoietva
Paul Stastny and the Avalanche were not able to get a deal done. He'll hit the market tomorrow. #tvasports


Welp let silly season begin

Renaud Lavoie@renlavoietva
Paul Stastny and the Avalanche were not able to get a deal done. He'll hit the market tomorrow. #tvasports


Welp let silly season begin
- TPC

I think the Rangers are asking themselves right now whether they think they can win with Stepan and Brassard as there number 1 and 2 guys, and that is why Stastny is a possibility (although still not likely)

If Pouliot signs in Winnipeg...Elton John needs to re-write his song:

"He's got electric mooooooves...but hes in the boooooooox, I read it in the hockeyyyy neeeeeeews... ooh ho ohhh
Be-Be-Be-Benny and the Jetssss"...haha

I think the Rangers are asking themselves right now whether they think they can win with Stepan and Brassard as there number 1 and 2 guys, and that is why Statsney is a possibility (although still not likely)
- Pete V

I think St. Louis, Nashville and Dallas are going to drive up the price of Stastny. Hopefully those 3 force the Rangers to throw in the towel.

I think the Rangers are asking themselves right now whether they think they can win with Stepan and Brassard as there number 1 and 2 guys, and that is why Stastny is a possibility (although still not likely)
- Pete V

I just hope they lock up Moore first so if they do go on the full court press tomorrow, Moore can't slip away

I think the Rangers are asking themselves right now whether they think they can win with Stepan and Brassard as there number 1 and 2 guys, and that is why Stastny is a possibility (although still not likely)
- Pete V

Eh...I was all in on Statsny before I saw the salary issues but if they could somehow get him and keep brassard Stepan D Moore Kreider Zucc I'd love it. Otherwise I think id pass. So I don't see anyway it's possible.

For shyts n giggles

Kreider-Stastny-Nash
Hagelin-Brassard-Zucc
Miller-Stepan-St Louis
Carter-Moore-Fast

McD-Girardi
Staal-Klein
Moore-xxxx
Diaz

I think I would try CK with brass and zucc and hags with nash/step

I just hope they lock up Moore first so if they do go on the full court press tomorrow, Moore can't slip away
- TPC

I keep asking...Can Moore play a full season at 3rd line minutes? If he could that would be a huge help. Then you could sign Stralman and someone better then Poukiot for the wing most likely

I think St. Louis, Nashville and Dallas are going to drive up the price of Stastny. Hopefully those 3 force the Rangers to throw in the towel.
- tomburton99

I understand the want to stay far away from Stastny if he gets $7M+ per year, but realistically, who else is available that could take this team up another level? We just made the SCF. We bought out a key center of that team. Most likely, we're going to lose a few key forwards like Pouliot and Boyle and Stralman. If we don't make a move for some talented players, like a Stastny, then this team will take a major step back.

Again, I understand why everyone is weary of Stastny...but he makes this team better than last year's. If we go into next season with the same roster minus the guys I mentioned before, we're worse and likely out in the 1st or 2nd round once the playoffs come around.

It would be a safe guess assuming this is MSL's last year as a NY Ranger as well. We gotta go for it again...all out.

To appease the Stralman camp lol.

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
xxxx - Brassard - Zucc
Hagelin - Moore - St. Louis
Carter - Miller - Fast

McD-Girardi
Staal-Stralman
Moore-Klein
DZ

Need 2nd line winger

To appease the Stralman camp lol.

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
xxxx - Brassard - Zucc
Hagelin - Moore - St. Louis
Carter - Miller - Fast

McD-Girardi
Staal-Stralman
Moore-Klein
DZ

Need 2nd line winger
- Slimtj100

Gotta get MSL a better center to play with...if we did go with a lineup like that, I say we move Kreider down to the Brass/Zucc line and move MSL up with Stepan and Nash.

I understand the want to stay far away from Stastny if he gets $7M+ per year, but realistically, who else is available that could take this team up another level? We just made the SCF. We bought out a key center of that team. Most likely, we're going to lose a few key forwards like Pouliot and Boyle and Stralman. If we don't make a move for some talented players, like a Stastny, then this team will take a major step back.

Again, I understand why everyone is weary of Stastny...but he makes this team better than last year's. If we go into next season with the same roster minus the guys I mentioned before, we're worse and likely out in the 1st or 2nd round once the playoffs come around.

It would be a safe guess assuming this is MSL's last year as a NY Ranger as well. We gotta go for it again...all out.
- rangerdanger94

I agree. By hell or high water a 3rd line center would really improve our chances. We have trouble scoring still which peeps forget


It just seems impossible to find a center good enough to fit into the cap

Gotta get MSL a better center to play with...if we did go with a lineup like that, I say we move Kreider down to the Brass/Zucc line and move MSL up with Stepan and Nash.
- rangerdanger94

Them what if you bump up Hagelin with brassard and Zucc..Moore is LW on 3rd line and you get Perrault or something

I keep asking...Can Moore play a full season at 3rd line minutes? If he could that would be a huge help. Then you could sign Stralman and someone better then Poukiot for the wing most likely
- Slimtj100

I don't think moore can play 3rd line center all year. My guess is somewhere around 30 points. He can fill in a game here and there but would be exposed over an 82 game season.

I agree. By hell or high water a 3rd line center would really improve our chances. We have trouble scoring still which peeps forget


It just seems impossible to find a center good enough to fit into the cap
- Slimtj100

I do think that Miller would be successful as a 3rd line center as he's looked best playing as the center, but he won't help pivot the 3rd line to a Stanley Cup. If we want to make a legit run next season, we need Stepan - X - Brassard and that X has to be a guy like Stastny or even Ribeiro.

I understand the want to stay far away from Stastny if he gets $7M+ per year, but realistically, who else is available that could take this team up another level? We just made the SCF. We bought out a key center of that team. Most likely, we're going to lose a few key forwards like Pouliot and Boyle and Stralman. If we don't make a move for some talented players, like a Stastny, then this team will take a major step back.

Again, I understand why everyone is weary of Stastny...but he makes this team better than last year's. If we go into next season with the same roster minus the guys I mentioned before, we're worse and likely out in the 1st or 2nd round once the playoffs come around.

It would be a safe guess assuming this is MSL's last year as a NY Ranger as well. We gotta go for it again...all out.
- rangerdanger94

I agree with you. I think MSL will re-sign for a couple more years, but when they acquired him and gave up a couple of first rounders to do so, they pretty much announced that they are going for it now. They need to be aggressive to sustain or make themselves better, and if that means doing something that may not look so good 5-6 years down the line so be it. But, pulling against that is the fact that being aggressive at the top of the lineup will require some young guys to really step up.

I don't think moore can play 3rd line center all year. My guess is somewhere around 30 points. He can fill in a game here and there but would be exposed over an 82 game season.
- nyrangers9479

I didn't think so either just wondering what people thought

Them what if you bump up Hagelin with brassard and Zucc..Moore is LW on 3rd line and you get Perrault or something
- Slimtj100

My reaction to that suggestion is....

We'll be so mediocre.

I agree with you. I think MSL will re-sign for a couple more years, but when they acquired him and gave up a couple of first rounders to do so, they pretty much announced that they are going for it now. They need to be aggressive to sustain or make themselves better, and if that means doing something that may not look so good 5-6 years down the line so be it. But, pulling against that is the fact that being aggressive at the top of the lineup will require some young guys to really step up.
- Pete V

Yea, but then you look at the Kings and they were sparked to their Cup win by youngsters like Pearson and Toffoli. We need that out of Miller and Fast.

I think for this team to have any legit postseason success, Brassard needs to be our 3rd line center. If he's a center in our top 6, that spells serious trouble for us.

Now, if we can swing him for Spezza somehow (with Ottawa retaining $2-2.5M of Spezza's remaining cap hit), I think Spezza - Stepan is a good enough 1-2 punch down the middle to make up for a lack of center depth down below. I'd at least feel a hell of a lot more confident with a center lineup of Spezza - Stepan - Miller - Moore than Stepan - Brassard - Miller - Moore. The difference between those 2 lineups should be clear.

I agree with you. I think MSL will re-sign for a couple more years, but when they acquired him and gave up a couple of first rounders to do so, they pretty much announced that they are going for it now. They need to be aggressive to sustain or make themselves better, and if that means doing something that may not look so good 5-6 years down the line so be it. But, pulling against that is the fact that being aggressive at the top of the lineup will require some young guys to really step up.
- Pete V

That's precisely why I can't buy into Stralman over a center if that's the debate. I don't see much improvement with this group without a major player up front. I think the team would be better off with Klein in strahlmans spot and a 6th added, ie-Obrien, stoner, fayne, whoever

You pick up Statsny long term at least hes not that old and hes skilled. We simply need a player now why are we gonna wait??

My reaction to that suggestion is....

We'll be so mediocre.
- rangerdanger94

See that's what happens with a Stralman line up

It's a no brainer if you ask me, Stralman is the worst idea for this team next season IMO.

That's precisely why I can't buy into Stralman over a center if that's the debate. I don't see much improvement with this group without a major player up front. I think the team would be better off with Klein in strahlmans spot and a 6th added, ie-Obrien, stoner, fayne, whoever

You pick up Statsny long term at least hes not that old and skilled. We simply need a player now why are we gonna wait??
- Slimtj100

Yea, we really can't afford to wait. Before you know it, MSL retires and we're out 1 elite superstar, Hank is older, and maybe Staal is gone. And then we're stuck with Nash as our only gamebreaking forward again.

If we could get Stastny, I'd be willing to take a risk on our depth. Only because Sather was able to land guys like Pouliot and Moore on bargain deals trying to prove themselves once, so I think he can do it again. We need to look at the ROLES the players leaving are gonna give up. We're likely losing a PKer in Boyle, a guy with size that goes to the front of the net and can skate decently in Pouliot, and a solid defenseman in Stralman. If we sign a PK specialist for cheap, a big guy that can skate for cheap, and just a solid defenseman that can play 3rd pairing minutes with Klein moving on up, we effectively replace the guys we're losing.

Stralman reportedly has a long term contract offer from another team worth between $4.5 and $5 million a year.

Yea, we really can't afford to wait. Before you know it, MSL retires and we're out 1 elite superstar, Hank is older, and maybe Staal is gone. And then we're stuck with Nash as our only gamebreaking forward again.

If we could get Stastny, I'd be willing to take a risk on our depth. Only because Sather was able to land guys like Pouliot and Moore on bargain deals trying to prove themselves once, so I think he can do it again. We need to look at the ROLES the players leaving are gonna give up. We're likely losing a PKer in Boyle, a guy with size that goes to the front of the net and can skate decently in Pouliot, and a solid defenseman in Stralman. If we sign a PK specialist for cheap, a big guy that can skate for cheap, and just a solid defenseman that can play 3rd pairing minutes with Klein moving on up, we effectively replace the guys we're losing.
- rangerdanger94

100%

One of Sathers best attributes is finding guys off the scrapheap or bargains. He's the one that found Stralman for crying out loud lol

AV could easily coach someone into a Stralman. Just got find someone like him

Stralman reportedly has a long term contract offer from another team worth between $4.5 and $5 million a year.
- Pete V

Better not match it