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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:28 PM ET
As Per Phil Esposito on NHL Radio: "I believe the Rangers are really going after Spezza."

hahaha

- jimbro83

If ottawa offers to take 2M of his salary, would you send them a package of brassard + skjei + 2nd?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:28 PM ET
Now you are leaving money on the table for no reason.
- mrhattrick27

For kane/toews
AgraipVigneaurd
New York Rangers
Location: A Grape Vineyard, NY
Joined: 02.06.2014

Jun 30 @ 4:29 PM ET
Now you are leaving money on the table for no reason.
- mrhattrick27

How do you figure? Seems like that would bring us within 2 mil of the cap for sure
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:29 PM ET
If ottawa offers to take 2M of his salary, would you send them a package of brassard + skjei + 2nd?
- rangerdanger94


I would not do that, no
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:31 PM ET
As Per Phil Esposito on NHL Radio: "I believe the Rangers are really going after Spezza."

hahaha

- jimbro83


It is unlikely, but also not totally outside the realm of possibility. It would obviously require Brassard to go back the otherway, and the Sens to eat about $2 million (if not a little more) in cap space, but as far as real money goes, Spezza is only owed $4 million this year.

We know what the Sens were willing to accept for Spezza (the deal that Nashville gave Pittsburgh for Neil), so the trade price is not through the stratosphere.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:31 PM ET
I would not do that, no
- jimbro83

Not gonna lie, id be pretty tempted to.

Zuccarello - stepan - nash
Kreider - spezza - msl
Hagelin - miller - duclair
Malhotra - moore - fast
Graves#9
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:32 PM ET
How do you figure? Seems like that would bring us within 2 mil of the cap for sure
- AgraipVigneaurd


Ok than upgrade Fayne and we're good
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jun 30 @ 4:34 PM ET
Here is another alternative, which requires going cheap on D:

Kreider-Step-Nash
Zucc-Brassard-MSL
Hagelin-Legwand-Miller
Fast-Moore-Carcillo/Maholtra

Girardi/McDonagh
Fayne/Staal
Klein/Moore

Some 7th defensemen

- Pete V

I more OK with this than letting everyone go, I would like to plug someone better than Fayne in their like maybe Anton Stralman, heard he's available

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:34 PM ET
It is unlikely, but also not totally outside the realm of possibility. It would obviously require Brassard to go back the otherway, and the Sens to eat about $2 million (if not a little more) in cap space, but as far as real money goes, Spezza is only owed $4 million this year.

We know what the Sens were willing to accept for Spezza (the deal that Nashville gave Pittsburgh for Neil), so the trade price is not through the stratosphere.

- Pete V

The over 30 and injury history he has scares me. Yeah he can rack up points, but doesn't always do it. His production varies for year to year.
AgraipVigneaurd
New York Rangers
Location: A Grape Vineyard, NY
Joined: 02.06.2014

Jun 30 @ 4:35 PM ET
Ok than upgrade Fayne and we're good
- Graves#9

http://www.capgeek.com/armchair-gm/roster/31061
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:35 PM ET
I more OK with this than letting everyone go, I would like to plug someone better than Fayne in their like maybe Anton Stralman, heard he's available
- KreiderBomb

Stralman's available, but as soon as Ehrhoff and Niskanen sign all teams that didn't get those two focus on Stralman. Then things get crazy.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jun 30 @ 4:36 PM ET
Not gonna lie, id be pretty tempted to.

Zuccarello - stepan - nash
Kreider - spezza - msl
Hagelin - miller - duclair
Malhotra - moore - fast

- rangerdanger94

I'm excited to see him play and would love a 19 yr old star in the making actually succeed in getting a spot but it's NY and I would rather not risk his future
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:36 PM ET
http://www.capgeek.com/armchair-gm/roster/31061
- AgraipVigneaurd

Carcillo made 825k this year. No chance he takes 125k pay cut.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:37 PM ET
The over 30 and injury history he has scares me. Yeah he can rack up points, but doesn't always do it. His production varies for year to year.
- tomburton99

His injury history scares me for sure, but as far as points goes, hes very consistent. Outside his first 2 seasons in the league, the lowest ppg pace he's scored at has been .88. The next lowest I believe is .92. Hes a ppg player in his prime.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:37 PM ET
I more OK with this than letting everyone go, I would like to plug someone better than Fayne in their like maybe Anton Stralman, heard he's available
- KreiderBomb


That lineup doesn't work with Stralman, because he will get $4.5 million a year if he wants it. So, if you want Stralman, than the third line suffers. I think its one or the other, either a better defensive core with Stralman, or a deeper pool of forwards upfront. Hard to see both happening.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jun 30 @ 4:37 PM ET
As Per Phil Esposito on NHL Radio: "I believe the Rangers are really going after Spezza."

hahaha

- jimbro83

Thank god Phil just confirmed we're not, remember there's no way St. Louis was coming to NY
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:38 PM ET
His injury history scares me for sure, but as far as points goes, hes very consistent. Outside his first 2 seasons in the league, the lowest ppg pace he's scored at has been .88. The next lowest I believe is .92. Hes a ppg player in his prime.
- rangerdanger94

No longer in that, at age 31.
AgraipVigneaurd
New York Rangers
Location: A Grape Vineyard, NY
Joined: 02.06.2014

Jun 30 @ 4:38 PM ET
Carcillo made 825k this year. No chance he takes 125k pay cut.
- tomburton99

After he attacked the ref? I doubt he will be getting a lot of contract offers.

But either way, if that's a problem just bring up Lindberg for 625k instead. I didn't put much into the healthy scratches, didn't think that would be the focal point of the analysis.

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:38 PM ET
I'd much much rather overpay for Niskanen then overpay for Stralman. I don't get you guys lol. They're both UFAs..but because he's a ranger it has to be Stralman who we overpay for
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jun 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
That lineup doesn't work with Stralman, because he will get $4.5 million a year if he wants it. So, if you want Stralman, than the third line suffers. I think its one or the other, either a better defensive core with Stralman, or a deeper pool of forwards upfront. Hard to see both happening.
- Pete V

I wonder if Sather Knew Polak was available, that would have been a nice replacement
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:40 PM ET
I'd much much rather overpay for Niskanen then overpay for Stralman. I don't get you guys lol. They're both UFAs..but because he's a ranger it has to be Stralman who we overpay for
- Slimtj100


I am hearing crazy numbers for Niskanen though
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:40 PM ET
No longer in that, at age 31.
- tomburton99

I dont really consider 31 years old to be old in the nhl. Plus he literally just turned 31 2 weeks ago. Id be open to it for the right price is all I'm saying. Gotta be proactive and aggressive over the next couple years why hank is still good.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:41 PM ET
I'd much much rather overpay for Niskanen then overpay for Stralman. I don't get you guys lol. They're both UFAs..but because he's a ranger it has to be Stralman who we overpay for
- Slimtj100

I actually dont even think stralman will be overpaid. We just cant afford him.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:41 PM ET
After he attacked the ref? I doubt he will be getting a lot of contract offers.

But either way, if that's a problem just bring up Lindberg for 625k instead. I didn't put much into the healthy scratches, didn't think that would be the focal point of the analysis.


- AgraipVigneaurd

The ref thing was a blip on a very good season for him. Without him this team has zero edge, sandpaper or whatever you want call it. But he's not just a fighter. When he's right between the eye's he a good bottom 6 player. I would like the Rangers to keep him.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
I actually dont even think stralman will be overpaid. We just cant afford him.
- rangerdanger94


I saw something both will get between 5-6, that was NHL network guys tho. Not sure how much knowledge those have. That's pretty close ranger tho
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