idk, 89...foligno is what he is, a fourth-liner, maybe bottom-six...as for mcbain, I love his shot...it's right on...like I said he's still young and offensive d-men need time...I don't think two years on both is asking too much
- Michael Pachla

I'll agree with Foligno, something around 2-2.5. Murray wants him here, per his words.

McBain is 26 on the other hand and other than sitting on the point of a power play, is worthless. I wouldn't resign him if it wasn't totally necessary to get over the cap floor. Which I have faith that there will be players to Shut Up And Take My Money.

Yes to Foligno, I like his future and I know Murray does/will sign him anyway
No to McBain. He was a throw in for that 36th pick. That was us taking crap-salary from Carolina for a good pick, like we might do this summer from other teams.

Gonchar for a 2016 7th rd pick
- NoobasaurusRex

Can we have him for our first in 2015?!?

Chris Kelly for a 4th rounder

If they are smart they would overpay 3 vets 6 million each on a 1 year deal - Then at the deadline, flip those guys for 1st rounders or 2nds, or prospects

Thats how I'd stockpile during a rebuild when I have to hit the cap floor
- RoloTahmasee

I agree. Let's hope

Chris Kelly for a 4th rounder
- MrBeanTown

Doubt he waves his ntc to come here and no thanks

Murray's moves have been pretty unconventional, RFA offer the Kreider (right age size, skill level) we've got St. Louis 1st& 2nd for the required compensation.

Murray's moves have been pretty unconventional, RFA offer the Kreider (right age size, skill level) we've got St. Louis 1st& 2nd for the required compensation.
- sfhfan

Rangers will match for more than he's worth. Screw it.

Doubt he waves his ntc to come here and no thanks
- lostcdn

Agreed... It's more of a pipe dream to see his 3M a year vanish

I'll agree with Foligno, something around 2-2.5. Murray wants him here, per his words.

McBain is 26 on the other hand and other than sitting on the point of a power play, is worthless. I wouldn't resign him if it wasn't totally necessary to get over the cap floor. Which I have faith that there will be players to Shut Up And Take My Money.

Yes to Foligno, I like his future and I know Murray does/will sign him anyway
No to McBain. He was a throw in for that 36th pick. That was us taking crap-salary from Carolina for a good pick, like we might do this summer from other teams.
- TheSabresTaco

It was mentioned on the last board that Murray has said not every RFA will get a qualifier from us. According to Capgeek, we have 5 that were on the roster at the end of the year. Ennis, Foligno, Conacher, McBain and Ruhwedel.

Looking at that list, I would guess that McBain and Conacher are in trouble. The other 3 will get offers.

Agreed... It's more of a pipe dream to see his 3M a year vanish
- MrBeanTown

You guys are hurting big time where the cap is concerned. Bonuses bit you right in the ass.

It was mentioned on the last board that Murray has said not every RFA will get a qualifier from us. According to Capgeek, we have 5 that were on the roster at the end of the year. Ennis, Foligno, Conacher, McBain and Ruhwedel.

Looking at that list, I would guess that McBain and Conacher are in trouble. The other 3 will get offers.
- HonkFortheGoose

Yep ,that was a home run swing that missed for sure

You guys are hurting big time where the cap is concerned. Bonuses bit you right in the ass.
- HonkFortheGoose

Big time... At least they can be 10% over in the offseason and then they have 4M for Savvy coming off gfor LTIR... but either way we are screwed.

Im actually warming on the fact of trading Lucic and his 6M salary at this point... it's getting that bad lol

Big time... At least they can be 10% over in the offseason and then they have 4M for Savvy coming off gfor LTIR... but either way we are screwed.

Im actually warming on the fact of trading Lucic and his 6M salary at this point... it's getting that bad lol
- MrBeanTown

You guys will dump cap for draft picks dont worry

Big time... At least they can be 10% over in the offseason and then they have 4M for Savvy coming off gfor LTIR... but either way we are screwed.

Im actually warming on the fact of trading Lucic and his 6M salary at this point... it's getting that bad lol
- MrBeanTown

Is there a reason that Savard doesn't just retire? I have to say, I'm not a fan of these guys with concussion issues just staying on the books when they know they can't actually ever play again. Pronger is another one.

You guys will dump cap for draft picks dont worry

- top shelf 15

Worst thing is the biggest need is Kelly as he makes 3M... but has a modified NMC, I think McQualid will be moved as I think he will garner interest

Is there a reason that Savard doesn't just retire? I have to say, I'm not a fan of these guys with concussion issues just staying on the books when they know they can't actually ever play again. Pronger is another one.
- HonkFortheGoose

Honeastly no idea how that works at all.... Dunno why they don't.

Big time... At least they can be 10% over in the offseason and then they have 4M for Savvy coming off gfor LTIR... but either way we are screwed.

Im actually warming on the fact of trading Lucic and his 6M salary at this point... it's getting that bad lol
- MrBeanTown

Trade Lucic to Calgary some can run Miller over inEdmonton on a regular basis

So, what is the penalty for missing on Sabres 1st pick?
I'll need time to change my avatar.

Worst thing is the biggest need is Kelly as he makes 3M... but has a modified NMC, I think McQualid will be moved as I think he will garner interest
- MrBeanTown

He will come back to us to be our third line center, u will give us a second rounder

It was mentioned on the last board that Murray has said not every RFA will get a qualifier from us. According to Capgeek, we have 5 that were on the roster at the end of the year. Ennis, Foligno, Conacher, McBain and Ruhwedel.

Looking at that list, I would guess that McBain and Conacher are in trouble. The other 3 will get offers.
- HonkFortheGoose

That was my assumption. I'd be pretty disappointed if Ruhwedel wasn't qualified. Austin will be joining the AHL next year, so if a contract needs to be cut. Nick Crawford can be easily released.

So, what is the penalty for missing on Sabres 1st pick?
I'll need time to change my avatar.
- IonSabres

Yes . Didn't see what the penalty was or for how long.

*guessed correctly

Worst thing is the biggest need is Kelly as he makes 3M... but has a modified NMC, I think McQualid will be moved as I think he will garner interest
- MrBeanTown

He still has a house here in ottawa i have heard

Murray's moves have been pretty unconventional, RFA offer the Kreider (right age size, skill level) we've got St. Louis 1st& 2nd for the required compensation.
- sfhfan

You can only use your own picks for offer sheet compensation.

Honeastly no idea how that works at all.... Dunno why they don't.
- MrBeanTown

Actually, I worded that wrong in a way. But I'm sure you get the point. I just don't think that a team should be able to put a guy on LTIR year after year. I just feel like this is an area that needs to be addressed.

Savard could retire and it wouldn't hurt you because his contract wasn't 35+. Pronger on the other hand, would show on the cap for Philly because his was a 35+ contract.

You can only use your own picks for offer sheet compensation.
- nfph

Facts have no place here.