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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:52 PM ET
On Steve Ott...

The Flyers really really want Steve Ott. EK

Not a fun rumor.

- nbartley9


The Flyers may really want him but they're over the cap. They'll have to move a good player if they want him. They've got some ugly contracts that are very Scuderi like.

Honestly, I don't necessarily get the infatuation with him. He'd be a nice player at the right price, but he's not a difference make in any regard.
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:55 PM ET
We won a Cup with Talbot and Fedotenko on the second line. LA just won with Tanner Pearson and Tyler Toffoli on their second line. Those two will likely end up being very good NHL offensive players, but they aren't there yet.

A player like Kulemin could be an effective NHL second line player with his skill set.

- rival22

I've been saying for sometime now that Malkin doesn't need star wingers to be effective. He proved it by winning the Conn Smythe the Cup year.

Sid is the one that needs the higher-end wingers.

Put 2 decent wingers next to Malkin with lower cap hits and let him dominate the puck. Say Bennett and whoever.

Give Sid Horn and Kunitz.

3rd is Spall, Duper, and Sutter.

Sign some bangers for the 4th.

thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:59 PM ET
I've been saying for sometime now that Malkin doesn't need star wingers to be effective. He proved it by winning the Conn Smythe the Cup year.

Sid is the one that needs the higher-end wingers.

Put 2 decent wingers next to Malkin with lower cap hits and let him dominate the puck. Say Bennett and whoever.

Give Sid Horn and Kunitz.

3rd is Spall, Duper, and Sutter.

Sign some bangers for the 4th.

- 87_71_11_29


I love all the people who think Duper is going to the 3rd line. The guy is our first line winger until he loses the spot, and he hasnt yet. Right now we have nobody else to take it from him.

First line will remain unchanged while Geno gets BB and Hornqvist.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:02 PM ET
I've been saying for sometime now that Malkin doesn't need star wingers to be effective. He proved it by winning the Conn Smythe the Cup year.

Sid is the one that needs the higher-end wingers.

Put 2 decent wingers next to Malkin with lower cap hits and let him dominate the puck. Say Bennett and whoever.

Give Sid Horn and Kunitz.

3rd is Spall, Duper, and Sutter.

Sign some bangers for the 4th.

- 87_71_11_29



Agree 100%
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:02 PM ET
I love all the people who think Duper is going to the 3rd line. The guy is our first line winger until he loses the spot, and he hasnt yet. Right now we have nobody else to take it from him.

First line will remain unchanged while Geno gets BB and Hornqvist.

- thickman1178


Dude blew out his knee and is in his mid 30's. Before getting nostalgic and huffy, lets wait and see if he can even hang on the top line before debating this.
PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:05 PM ET
The Flyers may really want him but they're over the cap. They'll have to move a good player if they want him. They've got some ugly contracts that are very Scuderi like.

Honestly, I don't necessarily get the infatuation with him. He'd be a nice player at the right price, but he's not a difference make in any regard.

- madmike71

That is with Pronger's cap hit included. That drops as soon as the season starts as it will be LTIR. So really they have roughly $4.7 million in cap space. Still not a great situation, but they have some wiggle room.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:10 PM ET
That is with Pronger's cap hit included. That drops as soon as the season starts as it will be LTIR. So really they have roughly $4.7 million in cap space. Still not a great situation, but they have some wiggle room.
- PensFan1103


Plus they can be 10% over the cap during the offseason
Incredible Malk
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: South Side, Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.23.2009

Jun 30 @ 1:12 PM ET
Sounds like Pens already have an offer to Kulemin. No money mentioned, but it will be for at least 3 years.
- cap1681


Dreger's putting the offer @$3 - $3.5m/yr
PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:13 PM ET
Dude blew out his knee and is in his mid 30's. Before getting nostalgic and huffy, lets wait and see if he can even hang on the top line before debating this.
- Reverend Killtaker

I tend to be leaning towards the side that thinks he will be back on the top line with Sid, but yeah it is definitely a wait and see situation. No guarantees coming back from an injury like that at his age. I like that we can basically lump him and Bennett into that either 1st line or 3rd line spot together and whoever runs away with the top line spot keeps it and the other is there on the 3rd in case they are needed and if neither really takes the job and runs with it, then you look for options at the deadline. No reason to assume neither of those guys can do it and sign somebody for more money when you have other spots to worry about.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:13 PM ET
My realistic roster:

FORWARDS
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Beau Bennett ($0.900m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($3.250m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Patric Hornqvist ($4.250m)
Pascal Dupuis ($3.750m) / Brandon Sutter ($3.300m) / Leo Komarov ($2.000m)
Jayson Megna ($0.874m) / Nick Spaling ($2.000m) / Brian Gibbons ($0.550m)
Zach Sill ($0.550m) / Craig Adams ($0.700m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Paul Martin ($5.000m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) / Simon Despres ($1.250m)
Scott Harrington ($0.589m) / Brian Dumoulin ($0.832m)
Olli Maatta ($0.894m) / Philip Samuelsson ($0.605m)
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Jeff Zatkoff ($0.600m)
BUYOUTS
Rob Scuderi ($0.431m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,224,681; BONUSES: $375,833
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $1,775,319
ScienceJesus
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 30 @ 1:26 PM ET

BUYOUTS
Rob Scuderi ($0.431m)

- cap1681


Scuds won't get a buy-out this year. They'll see what he does once the new coach implements a system that even pretends to give a damn about what happens in his own end. They'll look at it as a case where Scuds was entirely incompatible with a system like Dan's, but in 09 under a system that was still 90% Therrien's and for 4 years in LA where they cared about the d-zone, he was a solid guy.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 30 @ 1:28 PM ET
Scuds won't get a buy-out this year. They'll see what he does once the new coach implements a system that even pretends to give a damn about what happens in his own end. They'll look at it as a case where Scuds was entirely incompatible with a system like Dan's, but in 09 under a system that was still 90% Therrien's and for 4 years in LA where they cared about the d-zone, he was a solid guy.
- ScienceJesus


The thing is he wasn't that solid for LA at the end, which is why they moved on.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:29 PM ET
The thing is he wasn't that solid for LA at the end, which is why they moved on.
- Ryan_Wilson


And they won a cup again w/o him.
PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:30 PM ET
Scuds won't get a buy-out this year. They'll see what he does once the new coach implements a system that even pretends to give a damn about what happens in his own end. They'll look at it as a case where Scuds was entirely incompatible with a system like Dan's, but in 09 under a system that was still 90% Therrien's and for 4 years in LA where they cared about the d-zone, he was a solid guy.
- ScienceJesus

Agreed, they will trade him if they can, but otherwise he will be on the team this year and we will all have to just cross our fingers and hope for the best. If he has a bad year again, he will be somewhat easier to move next year just because his cap hit will be higher than his actual salary, which teams struggling to get to the cap floor will love, assuming of course he can't veto all of those teams with his limited no movement clause.
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:30 PM ET
Dreger's putting the offer @$3 - $3.5m/yr
- Incredible Malk

Sounds about right.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:30 PM ET
Dude blew out his knee and is in his mid 30's. Before getting nostalgic and huffy, lets wait and see if he can even hang on the top line before debating this.
- Reverend Killtaker


This.

And you have to be prepared in case he can't hang it. Hence, looking for top 6 help in free agency.
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:32 PM ET
I love all the people who think Duper is going to the 3rd line. The guy is our first line winger until he loses the spot, and he hasnt yet. Right now we have nobody else to take it from him.

First line will remain unchanged while Geno gets BB and Hornqvist.

- thickman1178

Duper is a decent 1st line guy. Passable. You already saw him before the injury last year being less effective.

He is a great 3rd line guy.

JR already said he wants grit on 3rd and 4th lines. That means no Bennett on lines 3 and 4.

If they sign Kulemin, Duper gonna be on the 3rd line.
ScienceJesus
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 30 @ 1:34 PM ET
The thing is he wasn't that solid for LA at the end, which is why they moved on.
- Ryan_Wilson


He wasn't AS solid, but he was still pretty solid. They just decided that they had younger guys that could do the same job at a lower price & moved on. They had some guys like Matt Greene that they felt could take that spot.

EDIT: They also had grabbed Reghr at the deadline in his last season there as well as added Willie Mitchell this past offseason.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 1:34 PM ET
The thing is he wasn't that solid for LA at the end, which is why they moved on.
- Ryan_Wilson

Just a friendly reminder you loved the signing.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 1:36 PM ET
Duper is a decent 1st line guy. Passable. You already saw him before the injury last year being less effective.

He is a great 3rd line guy.

JR already said he wants grit on 3rd and 4th lines. That means no Bennett on lines 3 and 4.

If they sign Kulemin, Duper gonna be on the 3rd line.

- 87_71_11_29

Do you think Duper is a 1st line player on any other team now or ever?
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 30 @ 1:37 PM ET
How about Heaters for the league minimum?

Guys an F'in Superstar
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 1:37 PM ET
How about Heaters for the league minimum?

Guys an F'in Superstar

- RoloTahmasee

Ha Ha Ha he ownes a lake
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:39 PM ET
Chances of trading Sutter at this point?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
I tend to agree with Rutherford it's not about the best guy it's about the right guy. We've had the best guys the past 5 seasons time to get the right guys. Not saying what he has done or will do will be right but they certainly weren't recently anyways. Tomorrow is a pretty big day but at least wait until mid season to start judging this team and new regime. Just my thoughts
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
Do you think Duper is a 1st line player on any other team now or ever?
- dbell646


Speed and synergy with Crosby... thats what he was. He was a 1st liner "with" Crosby. He probably may have gotten 2nd line play elsewhere after his first season on the Crosby line, he hit a 2nd prime in his mid 30s. I'd be very surprised, and definitely not upset, if he comes back this season without losing a step from last year.
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